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Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-05-2005 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From Ria Novosti:
Russia has published an unprecedented book, World Manned Cosmonautics, revealing for the first time secrets of all the manned programs realized in the USSR, Russia, the United States, China and some other countries.

"For the first time in the history of cosmonautics the book describes in detail, popularly in fascinating and at the same time responsible form all the manned flights in the period from 1961 to 2004. It also represents the design of most manned spacecraft", said editor-in-chief of the magazine Novosti Kosmonavtiki (News of Cosmonautics) and supervisor of the authors' collective Igor Marinin.

The book devotes a special place to unrealized projects and different foreign programs. "It will be published in 5,000 copies. The price of the almost 2.5-kilogram copy is about 2,600 rubles", Mr. Marinin told RIA Novosti.

The book consultant Pilot-Cosmonaut Yuri Baturin said: "We present a book of which we are very proud. Indeed, there is no such book elsewhere in the world and will hardly be in 20 years to come". "We dedicate it to the 45th birthday of the team of cosmonauts, to be marked on March 7, 2005", he added.

In turn, Cosmonaut Pavel R. Popovich of the first enrolment noted: "I very much like the style of writing. What is noteworthy, it is not overpoliticized", Mr. Popovich said.

The difference in principle between this book and a mere book of facts is that it is not a report about missions, understandable to only a narrow circle of specialists, but a publication which will help readers interested in the progress of world cosmonautics to understand the very core of it.

gliderpilotuk
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posted 03-05-2005 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No chance of an English language version I suppose?

spaceman
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posted 03-06-2005 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceman   Click Here to Email spaceman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any details of how to purchase a copy?

Energia-Buran
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posted 03-18-2005 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Energia-Buran     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just received an email from Igor Marinin of Novosti Kosmonavtiki. Here are the costs:
  • Book - $100
  • Postage - $39
  • Insurance - $10
For a total of $149.

To pay, send money via Western Union to the attention of Valerie (Valieria) Davidova, and email Igor the WU transaction number.

For those who speak Russian, email me and I'll forward you my original message and his response. Hope this helps.

(I also spoke with someone at the firm "RTSoft" [one of the financial backers]. He stated that the book is also available from Eastview, but they haven't replied to my email yet.)

Energia-Buran
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posted 03-24-2005 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Energia-Buran     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I sent Valeria my money yesterday, and received an acknowledgement from Igor. I should receive my book in 2-3 weeks (if previous experiences hold true).

I'll post a review as soon as I get it.

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posted 04-10-2005 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MSS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's great book with all piloted (planned too) programs all over the world, including spacecraft and rocket description... astronaut, cosmonaut, taikonaut groups is also included!

Good reading!

Energia-Buran
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posted 04-29-2005 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Energia-Buran     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quick Update: I got the book on Monday. Initial impression: WOW!

The photographs and diagrams are very high-quality. The pages are glossy and seem to feel slightly thicker than "normal" stock, which I hope translates into pages that will stand up to the "usage" I'll be inflicting on it.

I'll try to do some reading over the next few days and post a few comments about the content.

MSS
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posted 09-02-2013 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MSS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's all book at this link.

Tonyq
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posted 09-04-2013 06:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tonyq   Click Here to Email Tonyq     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Maciej for spotting the availability of this great book.

MSS
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posted 09-04-2013 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MSS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is this book in PDF file (36.8 MB).

bwhite1976
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posted 09-04-2013 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bwhite1976   Click Here to Email bwhite1976     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The diagrams of the spacecraft are very good-especially the N-1 and other Soviet/Russian spacecraft. Thanks for posting the link.

GoesTo11
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posted 10-18-2013 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks to poster MSS for the PDF link. I would absolutely buy an English-translated edition of this book.

Apollo-Soyuz
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posted 05-27-2018 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apollo-Soyuz   Click Here to Email Apollo-Soyuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What would it cost to get an English language translation?

SpaceCadet1983
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posted 05-27-2018 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceCadet1983   Click Here to Email SpaceCadet1983     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Contact the CIA. Seriously. Ask if they've translated the book. They translated a big Soviet Cosmonautics book for the Intel community in the mid-1980s of which I had a copy.

David C
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posted 05-27-2018 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's so many space books, there's obviously a market for them. This contains a lot of Russian/Soviet stuff not available in the West. You'd think it would be worth publishing a translation.

Apollo-Soyuz
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posted 05-28-2018 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apollo-Soyuz   Click Here to Email Apollo-Soyuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wrote to the CIA. Will post any results.

Apollo-Soyuz
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posted 07-01-2018 05:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apollo-Soyuz   Click Here to Email Apollo-Soyuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this book on CD in Russian. Can anybody tell me what the costs would be to get an English translation of the Russian PDF?

SpaceAholic
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posted 07-01-2018 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAholic   Click Here to Email SpaceAholic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are a number of online resources that support PDF translation... let Google be your friend.

Apollo-Soyuz
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posted 07-01-2018 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apollo-Soyuz   Click Here to Email Apollo-Soyuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can anybody suggest a simple free online pdf translation program? I plan to use it only once.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 07-01-2018 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Speaking from experience, free or low cost services are not going to be an option, nor are automated translation applications. They are not intended for specialized texts and the outcome, while in English, can be just as unreadable as the original Russian.

You would really need to hire a translator who is not only fluent in Russian, but who has a specialty working with aerospace subjects. It will not be inexpensive.

The American Translators Assocaition (ATA) maintains an online directory of translators that can be searched by language and specialty (including aerospace engineering, which may be the closest to this topic).

Apollo-Soyuz
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posted 07-01-2018 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apollo-Soyuz   Click Here to Email Apollo-Soyuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Robert, maybe you can send a inquiry to Ria Novosti about the possibly of printing an English language version or having somebody here in the United States print an English language version of the book?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 07-01-2018 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
RIA Novosti is a state-run news agency; they were the source of the article that started this topic but I don't believe they had any role in the book itself.

It appears if any entity would be in the position to do a reprint, it would be the magazine Novosti Kosmonavtiki. You could try contacting them, but the English market for a more than ten-year-old book might be too limited to justify the work.

Apollo-Soyuz
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posted 07-01-2018 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apollo-Soyuz   Click Here to Email Apollo-Soyuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did email Novosti Kosmonavtiki and I will let you know if I get a reply.

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posted 07-01-2018 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Buel   Click Here to Email Buel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Roughly how many words are in this book? I’m looking at the translation option and need a ball park idea of the word count.

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posted 07-02-2018 04:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe through a crowd funding campaign?

Apollo-Soyuz
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posted 07-02-2018 05:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apollo-Soyuz   Click Here to Email Apollo-Soyuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do not know how many words but the book is 747 pages long.

Buel
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posted 07-02-2018 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Buel   Click Here to Email Buel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Get me an approximate word count and I'll get a few quotes.

(Perhaps count the number of words on, say, three pages, get the average and multiply by 747?)

Robert Pearlman
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posted 07-03-2018 06:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Copying and pasting the text of the 750 page PDF into a word processor returns a count of 664,221 words.

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posted 07-03-2018 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Buel   Click Here to Email Buel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for that, Robert!!

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posted 07-10-2018 06:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Buel   Click Here to Email Buel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Update: I’ve contacted a few highly qualified translators so things are moving ahead.

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