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Topic: Apollo: The Race To The Moon (Murray/Cox)
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Laura Member Posts: 23 From: Memphis, TN Registered: Apr 2004
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posted September 14, 2004 08:21 PM
Apollo: The Race To The Moon is back in print!Great news for those who have wanted a copy. IP: Logged |
Sy Liebergot Member Posts: 321 From: Pearland, Texas USA Registered: May 2003
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posted September 15, 2004 09:07 AM
I just e-chatted with Charles Murray with whom I have become friendly over the years and congratulated him and wife on the re-launch of "Apollo." I've been after him for years to reprint this most definitive account of the Apollo Program. I heartily recommend it to y'all.Sy Liebergot "Apollo EECOM: Journey Of A Lifetime" www.apolloeecom.com IP: Logged |
Rodina Member Posts: 824 From: Pleasant Hill, CA Registered: Oct 2001
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posted September 15, 2004 10:33 AM
I didn't even realize it was out of print -- but given how few people seem to mention it around here, I guess that makes sense -- definitely one of the best books around, particularly its coverage of both the development of the Lunar Module and of the Apollo 13 business.IP: Logged |
FFrench Member Posts: 2230 From: San Diego Registered: Feb 2002
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posted September 15, 2004 11:53 AM
This is indeed great news. I have been lucky enough to have a copy of this wonderful book on my shelves for many years, and I encourage everyone here to read it.FF IP: Logged |
star51L Member Posts: 79 From: Vilano Beach, FL, USA Registered: Aug 2002
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posted September 15, 2004 04:36 PM
Great news!! I've about worn out the local library copy, so it will be great to have it on the shelf at home.IP: Logged |
Larry McGlynn Member Posts: 538 From: Boston, MA Registered: Jul 2003
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posted September 17, 2004 10:55 AM
I just received my copy from Mr. Murray. I cannot wait to read it.------------------ Larry McGlynn A Tribute to Apollo IP: Logged |
Sy Liebergot Member Posts: 321 From: Pearland, Texas USA Registered: May 2003
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posted September 17, 2004 02:13 PM
Larry, now you can begin another quest to obtain signatures of all the 'stars' in the Murray/Cox book. ;-)Sy Liebergot "Apollo EECOM: Journey Of A Lifetime" www.apolloeecom.com IP: Logged |
Larry McGlynn Member Posts: 538 From: Boston, MA Registered: Jul 2003
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posted September 17, 2004 03:03 PM
Sy, you are such a kidder!That project is off to a good start, because the book is signed by the authors. Now I have to chase you down.  Larry ------------------ Larry McGlynn A Tribute to Apollo IP: Logged |
MCroft04 Member Posts: 566 From: Smithfield, Me, USA Registered: Mar 2005
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posted December 14, 2007 11:42 PM
I decided to read "Apollo" again. Great idea and I agree it is a great book. But I do have a question about a comment they make on pages 337-38 regarding the Apollo 9 mission. They write that "Nine would be flown in a low earth orbit, which, for technical reasons involving both communications and navigation, was more difficult than trying to carry out the same activities on a real lunar mission". Can anyone shed any light on why performing the Apollo 9 mission objectives would be more difficult in LEO? IP: Logged |
Jim Member Posts: 65 From: Dallas TX Registered: Mar 2006
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posted December 15, 2007 12:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by MCroft04: Can anyone shed any light on why performing the Apollo 9 mission objectives would be more difficult in LEO?
Purely speculation on my part but the communication problem could have to do with the Earth's curvature and the fact that radio waves tend to travel in a straight line. As to the navigation problems, I'm not sure what that would be. Anyone else have any ideas?Jim IP: Logged |
Jay Chladek Member Posts: 486 From: Bellevue, NE, USA Registered: Aug 2007
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posted December 16, 2007 02:05 AM
Carrying out realtime communications between the spacecraft and Mission Control would have been more difficult due to the gaps in the tracking station coverage. Even early shuttle flights had that problem until the TDRSS satellites were launched.For Apollo 9, NASA would probably have relied on the ARIA (Apollo Range and Instrumentation Aircraft) EC-135Ns to maintain the voice and data links between the spacecraft and Houston. During the lunar flights, those communications would have been routed through the three radio telescope dishes on Earth and one would always have been within line of sight of the moon during a lunar mission. IP: Logged |
MCroft04 Member Posts: 566 From: Smithfield, Me, USA Registered: Mar 2005
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posted December 16, 2007 06:56 AM
quote: Originally posted by Jay Chladek: Carrying out realtime communications between the spacecraft and Mission Control would have been more difficult due to the gaps in the tracking station coverage.
Sounds logical. As they say in Portugal, Muito obrigado Senhor!IP: Logged |
Sy Liebergot Member Posts: 321 From: Pearland, Texas USA Registered: May 2003
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posted December 26, 2007 04:07 PM
It appears that the website for the Murray/Cox "Apollo: Race To the Moon" book has been taken down. My link no longer works. Can anyone verify this?Best wishes for 2008, Sy IP: Logged |
FFrench Member Posts: 2230 From: San Diego Registered: Feb 2002
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posted December 26, 2007 05:10 PM
It would appear so, Sy - I see however that the Boggs Spacebooks site for info. on the book, and signed copies, is still up and running.IP: Logged |
Sy Liebergot Member Posts: 321 From: Pearland, Texas USA Registered: May 2003
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posted December 26, 2007 07:20 PM
Too bad. I need to contact Charles, but it appears the e-dress is no longer valid. Best, SyIP: Logged |
FFrench Member Posts: 2230 From: San Diego Registered: Feb 2002
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posted December 26, 2007 07:24 PM
If Boggs is offering signed copies, they could probably forward a message for you?IP: Logged |
Naraht Member Posts: 232 From: Oxford, UK Registered: Mar 2006
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posted December 26, 2007 09:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by Sy Liebergot: It appears that the website for the Murray/Cox "Apollo: Race To the Moon" book has been taken down. My link no longer works. Can anyone verify this?
Yeah, I noticed that too. I was hoping that it was just my internet connection. It's a real shame--I have pointed so many people there for the audio and the photos. IP: Logged |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 12300 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted December 26, 2007 09:31 PM
This may be (and hopefully is) a temporary outage. The domain itself is registered and owned by Cox & Murray, Inc. through 2009. IP: Logged |
rjurek349 Member Posts: 489 From: Registered: Jan 2002
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posted December 26, 2007 09:34 PM
Ok. That does it - I ordered my copy. I've only been putting off tracking down a copy for years...and with the re-issue, I thought: what's the rush? Now that the site is down - I'm not taking any more chances. Thanks Sy, for letting us know. And Francis, thanks for pointing out the available copies at Boggs. IP: Logged |
tegwilym Member Posts: 1709 From: Renton, WA USA Registered: Jan 2000
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posted December 27, 2007 11:53 AM
Hmm...maybe the value of my extra original hardback copy will increase again?  IP: Logged |
Naraht Member Posts: 232 From: Oxford, UK Registered: Mar 2006
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posted December 27, 2007 01:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by tegwilym: Hmm...maybe the value of my extra original hardback copy will increase again? 
Here's hoping. My first edition hardback is signed by Sy, Jack Garman and Fred Haise. I should have asked Robert Seamans to sign it at the same time (the MAPLD 2006 conference) but I didn't.
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mdmyer Member Posts: 820 From: Humboldt KS USA Registered: Dec 2003
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posted December 27, 2007 05:32 PM
These books are great to have signed. My first edition hardback has been signed by John Aaron, Jerry Bostick, Chris Kraft, Glynn Lunney, Milton Windler, Steven Bales, Sy Liebergot, Gene Kranz, Guenter Wendt, and CAPCOM astronauts Charlie Duke, Jerry Carr, Jack Lousma, and Friendship 7 Back Up Scott Carpenter. And it has also been signed by Charles Murray and Catherine Cox.It is one of my favorite signed books. Mike Myer Humboldt KS IP: Logged |