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Topic: "Two Sides of the Moon" by Leonov and Scott
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Robert Pearlman
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posted February 06, 2004 12:52 AM
   
Coming in May from Simon & Schuster:  "Growing up on either side of the Iron Curtain, Alexei Leonov and David Scott shared the same dream - to become a pilot. Excelling at flying, they became elite fighter pilots, and were chosen by their countries' burgeoning space programmes to be part of the greatest technological race ever - to land a man on the moon. Cosmonaut Alexei Leonov became the first man to walk in space. It was a feat that won him a place in history, but almost cost him his life. A year later, in 1966, astronauts David Scott and Neil Armstrong were seconds away from dying as their spacecraft, Gemini 8, spun violently out of control across space. Both men survived against dramatic odds and went on to fly their own lunar missions: Armstrong to command Apollo 11 and Scott to command the most complex expedition in the history of exploration, Apollo 15. Spending three days on the moon, Scott became the seventh man to walk on its breathtaking surface. Marking a new age of US/USSR co-operation, the Apollo Soyuz Test Project brought Scott and Leonov together, finally ending the Cold War silence and building a friendship that would last for decades." IP: Logged |
nasamad
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posted February 06, 2004 05:18 AM
I was just wishing there was a bio of Dave Scott the other day ! Iv'e never seen a dual bio like this before but it sounds great, I pray Leonov pops back to the UK for some book signings with Scott ! Adam IP: Logged |
hinkler
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posted February 06, 2004 05:32 AM
Can we hope to see signed copies for sale by Collectspace?Regards, Ian from Oz  IP: Logged |
William
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posted February 06, 2004 07:14 AM
This is great news...Am looking forward to reading the bookBill Lower
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kucharek
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posted February 06, 2004 08:38 AM
Sounds very promising. Sure a must-buy.Harald PS: It seems to me, that it is meanwhile pretty difficult to publish a serious book on Apollo without getting a foreword by Tom Hanks... ;-) IP: Logged |
FFrench
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posted February 06, 2004 11:48 AM
Dave Scott gave a public talk at the flight museum in Santa Monica as part of the Aurora Auction events in April 2002. As part of that talk, here is what he said about the book at the time:"I have just embarked on writing a book with Alexei Leonov - our parallel biographies. He'd going to talk about Voskhod 2, and I am going to talk about Gemini 8. Basically our race to the Moon, and the Cold War - how each side saw the other side, and how we really got to the Moon - as a political effort. We plan to explore the cultural differences, our insights into the program, the human nature of the program. Not technical, not scientific, but why there was a race, what was in the race, who might have won the race, from the standpoint of our individual missions, which were a part of the race to the Moon. Some of the exciting events, and a comparison of our lives, as Leonov and I are about the same age, our backgrounds are about the same - we were both fighter pilots. But we went through completely different cultures. So it it not so much a story about me or Alexei, as a story about different cultures and societies, and how they put together a competitive race. What we are trying to do is find items of interest. It's a great story." IP: Logged |
VCampbell
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posted February 11, 2004 06:43 PM
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Originally posted by hinkler:
Can we hope to see signed copies for sale by Collectspace?Regards, Ian from Oz
Ian and Fellow List Members:
Aurora Galleries will be selling for Dr. Scott signed first editions of his book, beginning in May. If you are interested in a special leatherbound first edition copy (we are creating a VERY limited number of these copies), please contact Aurora as soon as possible. Watch our website for further details. Victoria Campbell
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Robert Pearlman
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posted February 11, 2004 07:03 PM
buySPACE/Countdown Creations and at least one other dealer have also begun plans for offering this book. More details will be posted soon. IP: Logged |
mdmyer
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posted February 11, 2004 09:20 PM
Thanks Robert. Please do keep us updated on this book.Mike IP: Logged |
kucharek
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posted February 12, 2004 07:39 AM
The book has popped up at Amazon, available in May.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0743231627 Harald IP: Logged |
Kevmac
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posted February 13, 2004 11:22 PM
Does anyone know if there is any chance of either one or both of them doing a book signing tour?Thanks,
Kevin ------------------
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rjurek349
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posted February 14, 2004 08:23 PM
FYI. It looks like Aurora will be selling signed copies as well as the limited, leather author editions. Notice has been placed on their website:
http://www.auroragalleriesonline.com/ IP: Logged |
Voodoo
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posted February 16, 2004 10:32 AM
Given that Aurora plans to sell signed first edition copies for $179.95, this suggests that there may not be a full scale book tour with signings.I hope I'm wrong ($180 U.S. is too rich for my blood, however much I might want the book), but the signs aren't good. Martin IP: Logged |
Frederic Janik
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posted February 16, 2004 11:19 AM
180 dollars for a single-signature (Dave Scott only) on a "regular" first edition??That would be the first time if I'm not mistaken that an astronaut sells signed copies of a book he has written, at the moment it comes out, for much more than the book's price.. Can't remember Aldrin, Cooper, Carpenter or the others doing so (never mind Lovell or Cernan who signed for free by mail). Not sure whose idea this has been but this is a very sad "first" IMO...
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Scott
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posted February 16, 2004 03:11 PM
If it was signed by BOTH Scott and Leonov, I might pay $50 for it, even though as Frederic mentions the traditional thing to do is to not charge more than the list price. After all, authors do get royalties. A 2 person themed book, signed by only one of the authors, when the other guy lives in Russia and it would be a huge pain to complete it, for $180? Forget it. IP: Logged |
dss65
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posted February 16, 2004 08:06 PM
Glad to see I'm not the only person feeling that way. That said, it would be very cool to have the book with both signatures.------------------
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Richard
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posted February 17, 2004 08:34 AM
What about the leather-bound edition. I assume that will be autographed by both. Would that be worth the price in your opinion.IP: Logged |
Scott
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posted February 17, 2004 09:09 AM
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What about the leather-bound edition. I assume that will be autographed by both. Would that be worth the price in your opinion.
Is it signed by both? I don't know. If signed by both in a very limited number, the price is more reasonable than the regular, single-signed offering. IP: Logged |
poolman18
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posted February 17, 2004 10:28 PM
Being a big Apollo 15 and Dave Scott fan...I find this absolutely crazy for him to charge this much to sign his book!!!I will buy the book, but will pass on ever getting it signed and paying for it. Hats of to Tom Stafford ,Gene Cernan ,Walt Cunningham ,Scott Carpenter & Sy for there signatures on their books. David IP: Logged |
Jurg Bolli
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posted February 18, 2004 10:29 AM
Hi,
I talked to Victoria at Aurora yesterday, and she said that BOTH books would only be signed by Scott, not Leonov.
I agree, $180 is steep, but I sure am tempted!
I'll have to see.
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Scott
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posted February 18, 2004 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by poolman18:
Hats of to Tom Stafford ,Gene Cernan ,Walt Cunningham ,Scott Carpenter & Sy for there signatures on their books.
David
Well said. And add John Glenn and Buzz Aldrin to that list of those who charge only list price for a signed book. You don't get much higher in stature, importance and demand than those two. Both charged only list price. The Glenn book I recall was $20 for everyone at the store due to the discount. And I got to meet them and get a photo shaking their hand to boot! When I went to the Story Musgrave signing at The Space Store in Houston recently, they had stacks of Walt Cunningham signed "The All American Boys" for list price only. This to my knowledge is the traditional way to do it. Please correct me if I am wrong. IP: Logged |
redstorm63
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posted February 18, 2004 09:51 PM
I'll have to add Alan Shepard, who did an extensive book signing tour for Moon Shot in 1994. IP: Logged |
TrueNorth
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posted February 19, 2004 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by Scott:
Well said. And add John Glenn and Buzz Aldrin to that list of those who charge only list price for a signed book. You don't get much higher in stature, importance and demand than those two. Both charged only list price. The Glenn book I recall was $20 for everyone at the store due to the discount. And I got to meet them and get a photo shaking their hand to boot! When I went to the Story Musgrave signing at The Space Store in Houston recently, they had stacks of Walt Cunningham signed "The All American Boys" for list price only. This to my knowledge is the traditional way to do it. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Scott, I take it Aldrin doesn't sign his book for free anymore? John IP: Logged |
Scott
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posted February 19, 2004 06:51 PM
I was referring to a new book, when it is first released. Aldrin did a signing tour in 1996 and also one in 2000. He could probably do another and limit it to one or two per person, have a time limit (like he did in 2000) and have it be quite manageable. His books have never been his most expensive signed items anyway.IP: Logged |
Danno
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posted February 20, 2004 08:24 PM
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Originally posted by TrueNorth:
Scott, I take it Aldrin doesn't sign his book for free anymore?John
No, but at his book signing he would sign ANY book he wrote for free. What a bargain!
Danno
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dave sixsmith
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posted February 29, 2004 04:08 AM
wonder what he would charge$$$$$ for signing
if you bought the book else were unsigned
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i guess you would not save much..IP: Logged |
the_tartanterror
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posted March 07, 2004 12:26 PM
As much as i would love a signed copy of the book, i will settle for an unsigned copy purely from the interest perspective.I would never pay that amount for a signed copy of a new book. IMO its complete greed to ask such an inflated price. Fair enough $50 but $180....NO WAY. I think its a great shame for any high profile personality,astronaut, politician or whoever to rip off fans or enthusiasts like that Think again Dr Scott and his agents IP: Logged |
Ed Krutulis
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posted March 07, 2004 12:37 PM
I think Dave Scott has been sniffing some of that "Moon Dust" if he thinks his signed book is worth $180. He will sell some, no doubt, but NOT alot.Ed IP: Logged |
Scott
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posted March 07, 2004 01:03 PM
I don't mean to be petty but Dave Scott does not have an official doctorate, he has an *honorary* doctorate of Astronautical Science from the University of Michigan, given to him in 1971. Most of these guys have honorary doctorates (the famous ones, at least). Unlike Buzz Aldrin's MIT PhD., it is not a true doctorate. IP: Logged |
Frederic Janik
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posted March 07, 2004 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by nasamad:
Iv'e never seen a dual bio like this before but it sounds great, I pray Leonov pops back to the UK for some book signings with Scott ! Adam
Hi Adam, I'm sure you're familiar with the "dual bio" called Moonshot (Slayton - Shepard).. I agree it would be nice to have Leonov sitting alongside Scott for signing this, but well I'm sure Leonov would insist on signing it for free so it might bother a little his co-author.. IP: Logged |
Richard
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posted March 07, 2004 07:08 PM
Another very interesting "dual biography" space book is The Race. Although it is not technically a biography, it does portray the Soviet and American space races side by side. IP: Logged |
dss65
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posted March 07, 2004 08:30 PM
While we're still on this subject....The book sounds too fascinating to pass up. I know that some of you have experience with cosmonauts and cosmonaut autographs--so far, I do not. What are the chances of having Leonov sign the book, and how would one go about it? An unsigned copy would be of great value, but if I were to get a Scott-signed copy (unlikely at the quoted price), I'd definitely want both authors' signatures.------------------
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mdmyer
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posted March 08, 2004 07:40 AM
Richard,Is the "dual biography book The Race" book that you mention have the title of "The Race" or is it "Apollo: The Race To the Moon" by Murrary? I would like to read about the Russian space program. I have read Red Star In Orbit and I have seen two other books about the Russian space program. Does anyone have any recommendations for either The Russians in Space by Erik Bergaust or a book of nearly the same title, Russians in Space by Evgenil Riabcikov? Both of these books seem common on the used book market. I was wondering if anyone had read these books. Thanks. Mike IP: Logged |
Glint
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posted March 08, 2004 10:25 AM
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Originally posted by the_tartanterror:
Think again Dr Scott and his agents
Dr. Scott? The only Dr. Scott I'm aware of is Dr. Gene Scott(Ph.D. Stanford University), virtual snakeoil salesman and L.A. television evangelist known for his teachings "on subjects ranging from Basic Christianity, to Atlantis, to the Pyramids."  (http://www.drgenescott.com/home.htm)
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Jurg Bolli
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posted March 08, 2004 10:42 AM
Hi,
1. Don't forget Mitchell, he has a PhD.
2. I disagree with most of you: while I think it's unfortunate that Scott doesn't sign the book for free we don't have to buy it. If he charges $165 through Aurora for a photo $180 for the signed book (incl. the book) sounds reasonable, and just like Armstrong, Scott doesn't owe us collectors anything. I wish he'd sign the book for free (he gets royalties I guess) but he has a perfect right not to do so, and we have a perfect right not to buy the book.
That's how I feel, but I probably will go to Titusville to meet him, Worden etc.
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Richard
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posted March 08, 2004 10:43 AM
Mike,That is a great book also, but I guess to avoid confusion, I actually meant the book "The Race: The complete true story of how America beat Russia to the moon" by James Schefter. IP: Logged |
FFrench
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posted March 08, 2004 12:42 PM
"Does anyone have any recommendations for either The Russians in Space by Erik Bergaust or a book of nearly the same title, Russians in Space by Evgenil Riabcikov? Both of these books seem common on the used book market. I was wondering if anyone had read these books."Evgeny Riabchikov's book is a marvelous one in my opinion. I am a little biased, because it is one of the first books on the Russians I read as a kid, and it really grabbed me then - made me get to know the personalities of the cosmonauts in a way I'd only read about astronauts before. It was great to see them humanized, and not just portrayed as Cold War adversaries. Reading the book again recently, some parts are of course very dated and sanitized, as there is only so much the Soviets were admitting in 1971 - compare it in that regard to the sanitized Life Magazine stories. But still well worth getting and a great read. FF IP: Logged |
FFrench
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posted March 08, 2004 12:46 PM
"I would like to read about the Russian space program. I have read Red Star In Orbit and I have seen two other books about the Russian space program."The best book I would recommend for a readable and accurate account of the Vostok and Voskhod programs is "The Rocket Men" by Rex Hall and David Shayler. FF
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mdmyer
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posted March 08, 2004 07:25 PM
Thanks for the recommendations. Mike IP: Logged |
Robert Pearlman
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posted April 11, 2004 01:08 PM
The U.S. printing of "Two Sides of the Moon" from St. Martin's Press / Thomas Dunne Books can now be pre-ordered through Amazon.com (for October shipping): http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0312308655/collectspace IP: Logged |
