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Topic: Two Sides of the Moon (Alexei Leonov, David Scott)
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Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42981 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 02-06-2004 12:52 AM
Two Sides of the Moon: Our Story of the Cold War Space Race by Alexei Leonov and David Scott Growing up on either side of the Iron Curtain, Alexei Leonov and David Scott shared the same dream - to become a pilot. Excelling at flying, they became elite fighter pilots, and were chosen by their countries' burgeoning space programmes to be part of the greatest technological race ever - to land a man on the moon. Cosmonaut Alexei Leonov became the first man to walk in space. It was a feat that won him a place in history, but almost cost him his life. A year later, in 1966, astronauts David Scott and Neil Armstrong were seconds away from dying as their spacecraft, Gemini 8, spun violently out of control across space. Both men survived against dramatic odds and went on to fly their own lunar missions: Armstrong to command Apollo 11 and Scott to command the most complex expedition in the history of exploration, Apollo 15. Spending three days on the moon, Scott became the seventh man to walk on its breathtaking surface. Marking a new age of US/USSR co-operation, the Apollo Soyuz Test Project brought Scott and Leonov together, finally ending the Cold War silence and building a friendship that would last for decades. - Hardcover: 432 pages
- Publisher: Thomas Dunne Books; 1st edition (September 23, 2004)
- ISBN-10: 0312308655
- ISBN-13: 978-0312308650
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nasamad Member Posts: 2121 From: Essex, UK Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 02-06-2004 05:18 AM
I was just wishing there was a biography of Dave Scott the other day!I've never seen a dual bio like this before but it sounds great, I pray Leonov pops back to the UK for some book signings with Scott! |
William Member Posts: 46 From: Terre Haute IN Registered: Nov 2002
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posted 02-06-2004 07:14 AM
This is great news... Am looking forward to reading the book. |
kucharek Member Posts: 38 From: Karlsruhe, Germany Registered: Oct 2003
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posted 02-06-2004 08:38 AM
Sounds very promising. Sure a must-buy.As an aside, it seems to me that it is meanwhile pretty difficult to publish a serious book on Apollo without getting a foreword by Tom Hanks... |
FFrench Member Posts: 3161 From: San Diego Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 02-06-2004 11:48 AM
Dave Scott gave a public talk at the flight museum in Santa Monica as part of the Aurora Auction events in April 2002. As part of that talk, here is what he said about the book at the time: I have just embarked on writing a book with Alexei Leonov — our parallel biographies. He'd going to talk about Voskhod 2, and I am going to talk about Gemini 8. Basically our race to the Moon, and the Cold War - how each side saw the other side, and how we really got to the Moon - as a political effort. We plan to explore the cultural differences, our insights into the program, the human nature of the program. Not technical, not scientific, but why there was a race, what was in the race, who might have won the race, from the standpoint of our individual missions, which were a part of the race to the Moon. Some of the exciting events, and a comparison of our lives, as Leonov and I are about the same age, our backgrounds are about the same - we were both fighter pilots. But we went through completely different cultures. So it it not so much a story about me or Alexei, as a story about different cultures and societies, and how they put together a competitive race. What we are trying to do is find items of interest. It's a great story. |
Frederic Janik Member Posts: 320 From: Helsinki, Finland Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 03-07-2004 01:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by nasamad: I've never seen a dual bio like this before...
I'm sure you're familiar with the "dual bio" called Moonshot (Slayton - Shepard). |
Richard New Member Posts: 5 From: Morrisonville, New York USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted 03-07-2004 07:08 PM
Another very interesting "dual biography" space book is The Race. Although it is not technically a biography, it does portray the Soviet and American space races side by side. |
hinkler Member Posts: 573 From: Melbourne, Victoria, AUSTRALIA Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 06-05-2004 01:06 AM
I have just finished reading "Two Sides of the Moon". It was interesting to read Alexei Leonov's thoughts on the crash that killed Gagarin. It was also interesting to read Dave Scott's version of the cover scandal. I will be interested to hear others thoughts on what he has written. I personally would have preferred two separate autobiographies by Leonov and Scott. Still a good book to add to the space library though. |
Tom Member Posts: 1597 From: New York Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 06-05-2004 12:31 PM
Does Dave Scott go into much detail surrounding his Gemini 8 and Apollo 9 and 15 missions? |
hinkler Member Posts: 573 From: Melbourne, Victoria, AUSTRALIA Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 06-05-2004 05:05 PM
Not as much detail as I would like. Most detail on Apollo 15 and less on Apollo 9 and Gemini 8.Sadly he does not have a lot to say about his fellow crew members. Only my opinion though for what it is worth. Still a good book to buy though. |
Dennis Talbot Member Posts: 172 From: Terrigal NSW Australia Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 06-05-2004 06:22 PM
I am only up to the Gemini 8 section but I have found what I think is the greatest ever letter to an astronaut/cosmonaut in the letter that Leonov got from The Chicken. Talk about a life changing event. |
rsynge Member Posts: 63 From: UK Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 06-18-2004 12:20 PM
It's an interesting read. For me, the most unusual part is Dave Scott's version of the cover scandal where he appears to blame Deke Slayton for the whole mess. He infers that Slayton actually fixed up the whole deal with the stamp dealer before the flight and knew all about what was going on.If this is true, it shows Slayton in a very different light. It would be interesting to know Al Worden's views on this to see if they correlate with Scott's memories. |
Scott Member Posts: 3307 From: Houston, TX Registered: May 2001
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posted 06-18-2004 03:24 PM
I don't believe it for a minute. I only wish Slayton were still alive to defend himself. |
Rick Mulheirn Member Posts: 4167 From: England Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 06-18-2004 05:43 PM
I understood that Al Worden could set the record straight about the whole stamp affair; that there is a lot more to the story than meets the eye. |
TrueNorth Member Posts: 161 From: Bathurst, NB, Canada Registered: Jun 2003
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posted 04-18-2005 10:25 AM
I have just finished the book. I thought it was excellent. To be honest, I have never made the effort to learn a whole lot about the Russian space programme, and so Leonov's part was extremely interesting, especially his insights into Gagarin and Korolev. And what a compelling and incredible life Leonov has lived.Dave Scott's part was better than expected. He tells his story in very readable and comfortable way. His thoughts and descriptions of what it was like up there rival Cernan's. I thought he was classy throughout. I do wish however that he would have addressed Deke's version (from "Deke") directly. Instead he makes no mention that this was a point of contention. |
Fra Mauro Member Posts: 1586 From: Bethpage, N.Y. Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 06-26-2006 04:20 PM
Did anybody read "Both Sides of the Moon"? Any observations? I thought it was a pretty good book, Leonov's points were interesting since they were new. I found it ironic that Scott said that Apollo 9 wasn't really appreciated yet he glossed over the flight in the book. Editor's note: Threads merged. |
cddfspace Member Posts: 609 From: Morris County, NJ, USA Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 06-26-2006 05:19 PM
Had the pleasure of attending the UACC show in New Jersey in 2005. At the dinner reception, as I was waiting to get a photo of David Scott and Dick Gordon with my son (came out great), Gordon said to Scott that he had read the book this year. Gordon said that he loved it — know the NASA side, but really enjoyed Leonov's side and how the book went back and forth.I thought it was a nice read as well! |
Blackarrow Member Posts: 3118 From: Belfast, United Kingdom Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 06-26-2006 06:08 PM
I'm about halfway through the book. It's a great read, for many reasons. The problems faced by Scott on Gemini 8 and by Leonov on Voskhod 2 are vividly reported. There is a stark contrast between Scott's account of his early life and Leonov's account of his. Guess which one walked through the snow in bare feet on his first day at school? I look forward to reading Leonov's comments about the Russian Moon-landing project, and Scott's account of Apollo 15. |
randy Member Posts: 2176 From: West Jordan, Utah USA Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 06-27-2006 01:12 AM
I thought it was a very good book. |
ed zigoy Member Posts: 31 From: Portland,OR,USA Registered: Feb 2005
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posted 11-12-2013 05:21 PM
In "Two Sides of the Moon" (on page 39), Leonov claims in a 1965 first visit to Cuba to have met with Ernest Hemingway and to tell him, "The Old Man and the Sea" was "Gagarin's favorite book," when in fact author Hemingway left Cuba in July 1960 and killed himself in Idaho a year later. So what's going on here?
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Lev M Member Posts: 139 From: Canada Registered: Nov 2012
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posted 11-12-2013 09:08 PM
Leonov visited Cuba in August 1965.My guess is he didn't know. USSR could try to avoid informing its citizens about the last years of Hemingway (moving to the States and the death). |
Lasv3 Member Posts: 410 From: Bratislava, Slovakia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted 11-12-2013 11:53 PM
The book "Two Sides of the Moon" has been published in 2004, nearly forty years after Leonov's visit of Cuba. One of the explanations of this very strange discrepancy could be Mr. Leonov simply mixed his wish to meet the famous writer with the reality when writing the book after so many years. Just keep on mind how many meetings, events and trips he made after his historical flight, so this memory glitch could be understood. Anyway, the book correctors were to find this discrepancy before going to print. |
ColinBurgess Member Posts: 2031 From: Sydney, Australia Registered: Sep 2003
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posted 11-13-2013 03:45 AM
I am truly at a loss to explain some of the glaring errors on the part of Leonov in this book, and seriously wonder how much of an input he had in it.For starters, he goes into a lengthy explanation of how four cosmonauts (Nelyubov, Filatyev, Anikeyev and Rafikov) got into serious trouble in March 1963 and all were dismissed from the cosmonaut team. But as one who was involved in casting a vote for their removal, Leonov should know that Mars Rafikov was actually dismissed from the cosmonaut team a full year earlier in March 1962 on a totally unrelated matter. Then he says in regard to the sad death of Valentin Bondarenko, burned to death in a pressure chamber fire, that he was given a "big funeral." Bondarenko's identity was a state secret, and his funeral was only a smsll family affair. Even his gravestone did not denote his cosmonaut status until 25 years later. I know I've seen a lot or errors in Leonov's sections of the book, and it's hard to have faith in anything he says when so much is patently incorrect. So who DID write it for him? |
bwhite1976 Member Posts: 281 From: Belleville, IL Registered: Jun 2011
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posted 11-13-2013 10:42 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lasv3: One of the explanations of this very strange discrepancy could be Mr. Leonov simply mixed his wish to meet the famous writer with the reality when writing the book after so many years. Just keep on mind how many meetings, events and trips he made after his historical flight, so this memory glitch could be understood.
I completely agree with your assessment. A while ago I was working on a writing project that dealt with a B-52 that broke apart and crashed near Savage Mountain, PA in 1964. I had met a gentleman, now in his mid-eighties, who claimed he was one of the first people on the scene of the crash and had found a pilot who had ejected from the B-52. His story was full of all of the right details, the location, the time. It was a vivid, first hand account. In my research however, I quickly found a newspaper article published right after the crash that confirmed his story exactly, down to the weather conditions, state of the pilot he found, location, etc. There was just one problem. My witness wasn't the person who found the pilot. The newspaper interviewed the man who had found the pilot, had pictures of him, etc. Now, this man I talked with is a gentleman, a war veteran and a good person. I think he believes he is telling me the truth. Over the decades his vivid memories of the event, maybe his retelling of the story so many time (he lives about 30 minutes from the crash site also) have turned something he read in a newspaper or talked about with friends into something he believes he witnessed and participated in first hand. Long story short, time can be quite a rift to cross, when trying to verify someone's story and sometimes the results can be unexpected. |
NJSPACEFAN Member Posts: 128 From: Ocala, FL USA Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 11-14-2013 10:41 AM
While the gentleman in his 80's is making claims to those who talk to him of being a witness based on something he read, and lived near is whimsically natured; a written published autogbiography for a nice payday when you're 69-70 and reasonably sharp should be as factual as possible in reporting, and frankly caught by a major publishers editors. |
jvertrees Member Posts: 108 From: Crestwood, MO Registered: Mar 2009
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posted 11-14-2013 12:16 PM
Interesting information regarding this book. Mr. Leonov also worked with Tom Stafford for "We Have Capture". The book is formatted almost the same way, Stafford section followed with a Leonov section. My study and reading has been largely dominated by the US side. Are their similar "errors" in "We Have Capture"? |