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Philip
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posted 08-28-2007 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dom:
I agree Ryan was (and still is) well-known for his famous war books but I think his influence on the Collier's series is often forgotten.
Excellent article on the Colliers articles (unique source material) and what went on behind these.

Looks like this 'Spaceflight' issue was the best of the year!

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posted 08-29-2007 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dom   Click Here to Email dom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Philip, thank you for the kind compliment...glad you liked it!

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posted 08-29-2007 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ColinBurgess   Click Here to Email ColinBurgess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dom, a great article on a great story - well done to you, and to Dwayne for the second part of his excellent article on the Gemini paragliders in the September issue which arrived here today.

I'd also like to congratulate Larry McGlynn on his heart-warming story in the same issue, telling the background story and many fun exploits of our beloved Cece Bibby, the talented artist who painted such memorable logos on the side of three Mercury spacecraft. Well done, Larry!

Colin

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posted 08-29-2007 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FFrench     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Having read Larry's great writing on Cece in the past, I am really looking forward to receiving this issue.

Larry McGlynn
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posted 09-02-2007 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Larry McGlynn   Click Here to Email Larry McGlynn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Colin and Francis,

Why thank you guys for mentioning the article. The truth be known Ed Hengeveld was the man who convinced Spaceflight to run the story. The magazine did a beautiful job on the article too.

The magazine has commissioned me to do a "tell all" article on spaceflight authors I have known.

And as a plug to you guys, I just received my copy of "In the Shadow of the Moon." Thank you for the very nice inscription.

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A Tribute to Apollo

FFrench
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posted 09-05-2007 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FFrench     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Received my copy in yesterday's mail, and read it this morning. That's a great article about Cece, with some wonderful accompanying photos - thanks for doing it! There are a lot of people who don't know her fascinating story who now will...

A good issue of the magazine overall, with interesting content from collectSPACE regulars Dwayne, Philip and Ed too.

Philip
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posted 09-25-2007 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congrats to Joel Powell with a great article on the September 1959 Atlas 9C events and accident investigation.

Philip
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posted 10-04-2007 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Superb cover for Spaceflight magazine!

art540
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posted 10-04-2007 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for art540   Click Here to Email art540     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"A Bad Day at the Cape", the story of the Atlas 9C (first Atlas-Able) by Joel Powell is really worth reading. The Pioneer payload would have been in space at the same time as Luna 3 if it had been launched in the October 1959 lunar window. See the October Spaceflight issue.

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posted 10-11-2007 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apollo-Soyuz   Click Here to Email Apollo-Soyuz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i also was fascinated by the story about the Atlas Able test firing disaster. I know Joel Powell frequents this board. I wanted to ask him if he has any plans to do a similar story on the Atlas Centaur 5 launch failure on March 2, 1965. I know that a pad camera 70mm film exists at the San Diego Air and Space Museum.

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As a matter of fact I do have plans to write about AC-5 in the near future (I recently obtained some marvelous photos of the damage to the launch pad...) after I tackle the flight of AC-1 and the first Atlas test flight (vehicle 4A). I'm glad you enjoyed the 9C story. There is of course a comprehensive selection of AC-5 films on the "Liftoff!" DVD from Spacecraft Films - a remarkable resource for the early history of rocketry...

Philip
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posted 11-02-2007 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dwayne, with the January 2008 issue in preparation, the 2007 challenge is over.

Brought my (record) total to 8 articles in 8 issues...

Philip
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posted 12-01-2007 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For 2007, it was a draw between Dwayne and myself, but what do we think of the January 2008 cover?

art540
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posted 12-01-2007 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for art540   Click Here to Email art540     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess Spaceflight needs newsstand sales. I remember Sky & Telescope and Astronomy changing formats for that reason...

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posted 12-01-2007 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Meaning?

Chris.

art540
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posted 12-02-2007 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for art540   Click Here to Email art540     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By adding words such as crazy, sexy and cool the cover attempts to capture the causal reader who would normally not look at or buy astronomy/space magazines.

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posted 12-03-2007 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, see your point. Although "crazy, sexy and cool" are not what caught my attention, though! I had to Google Yi Soyeon to find out who that was, and now that I know I fail to see the intention of the quote. Is spaceflight training "crazy, sexy (huh?) and cool" or is she? still confused.

Chris.

art540
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posted 12-03-2007 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for art540   Click Here to Email art540     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whether the training or the person the initial impact is there. I have looked at the celebrity newsmagazine covers while standing in line at the grocery store; you can see all kinds of words and phrases written to catch your attention. In self defense other magazines might follow suit including our favorites...

Philip
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posted 12-03-2007 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope the MER cover is eye-catching enough

gliderpilotuk
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posted 12-21-2007 05:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who is E Philpott?

He wrote what must have been the grumpiest, depressive letter received by the BIS in the January Spaceflight, entitled "Space is eclipsed by sport, sex and alcohol".

"Britain's days of glory of over. Slow decline and decadence await in the wings". "The rot started in 1979..."

Move over Victor Meldrew...and check out the UK's ongoing "engineering and science industry" you allege was destroyed by Maggie:

To quote from the British Council: "The UK has a thriving space industry that employs almost 16,000 people and has an annual turnover of around £2.9 billion."

Paul

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posted 12-21-2007 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by gliderpilotuk:
Who is E Philpott?
No idea. Haven't received the issue yet.

Depressive or realistic? I choose the latter. Sad but true. At least for the first part. Regarding the rot, I'm not sure it started in 1979 but the following years didn't help. Britain still has a seat on the U.N. security council because it used to be an Empire and also because it has nukes (much like France)... It's pathetic... And Britain anti-Europe stance and lack of space policy just makes things even more sad.

Chris.

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posted 12-21-2007 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gliderpilotuk   Click Here to Email gliderpilotuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, it's so bad I'm thinking of moving to forward-thinking Switzerland!

Paul

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posted 12-21-2007 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tonyq   Click Here to Email Tonyq     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cspg:
Is spaceflight training "crazy, sexy (huh?) and cool" or is she? still confused.
As the author of the piece about Soyeon, it was my decision to give it the 'Crazy, Sexy and Cool' title, but an editorial decision to put it on the front cover!!

What does it mean... well you'll need to read it to find out, which is exactly why magazines put such tasters on their covers!

cspg
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posted 12-22-2007 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gliderpilotuk:
Yeah, it's so bad I'm thinking of moving to forward-thinking Switzerland!
Why do you think I am (still) hanging on to my British passport?

Chris.

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posted 12-31-2007 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anybody know when the December 07 issue was mailed? I haven't received it yet and the Swiss post office is apparently taking a "long" break this week.

Chris.

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posted 12-31-2007 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for art540   Click Here to Email art540     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FYI I received my issue in California USA about December 26th...

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posted 01-01-2008 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, thanks. My copy is probably stuck in the mail. (Wow! Faster delivery time from the UK to the US than to Switzerland!)

Chris.

Philip
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posted 01-04-2008 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Take a look at Spaceflight February 2008 and notice that Robert Pearlman himself wrote an article entitled "Bizarre Test of First Saturn V" for the February 2008 issue.

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posted 01-04-2008 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for art540   Click Here to Email art540     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The joint aricle is good news - can't wait to receive my copy. Hopefully Alan Lawrie will do additional articles (with or without Robert) on Saturn 5.

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posted 01-04-2008 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlanLawrie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Art,

Yes I have another article in the March issue about the early (explosive) testing of the S-IV stage including photos from a private collection, some declassified photos and some I took myself. Hope you enjoy.

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An expanded version of the article will be run on collectSPACE on Monday, including film of the test described. Credit for the Spaceflight article should go to Alan, who did a great job pulling together the story from the bits and pieces I began with.

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posted 01-05-2008 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Philip:
Take a look at Spaceflight February 2008 and notice that Robert Pearlman himself wrote an article entitled "Bizarre Test of First Saturn V" for the February 2008 issue.
I hate this thread. It kills all the fun of receiving the magazine! And it talks about the Feb.08 issue while I still haven't received the January one. or (whichever is more appropriate on this lovely Saturday morning!)

Chris.

Philip
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posted 01-05-2008 05:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL Chris... don't open the topic

Sorry Alan, I didn't realize you were on collectSPACE.com!

Looking forward to the February issue...

(BTW subscribers who didn't get a certain issue can always contact sf@bis-spaceflight.com.)

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posted 01-05-2008 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Philip:
LOL Chris... don't open the topic
And I miss the Philip v. Dwayne combat? Are you kidding???

I know about missing issues but since the post office was on "holidays" for most of the past two weeks, maybe that's why. And every year it's the same story anyway...

Chris.

Philip
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posted 02-21-2008 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Must read: BIS Spaceflight March issue
New Lunar Exploration by Donald A Beattle

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posted 03-22-2008 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BIS Spaceflight May 2008 issue has a superb article by Ken Kremer "Up Close at Delta Launch Complex 17".

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posted 04-07-2008 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tonyq   Click Here to Email Tonyq     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just to get my retaliation in first, there is a news item in the May issue, P164 under my byline regarding Soyeon Yi, which contains some erroneous information. This was added by some editorial gremlins, after I had approved the correct proof and states that Soyeon will:
quote:
...become the youngest woman to fly in space, replacing Sally Ride.
This is wrong on both counts as Valentina Tereshkova, at 26, has always held that record, and appears likely to hold it for many years to come. Soyeon is 29.

Didn't want any of our learned posters to think I was responsible for such a schoolboy error!

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posted 04-08-2008 05:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Tonyq:
Didn't want any of our learned posters to think I was responsible for such a schoolboy error!
No worries, NASA TV just made exactly the same wrongful statement (12:55 pm Swiss Time)...

Chris.

Philip
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posted 04-08-2008 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hate to report it, but in same issue:

ESA astronauts:

Page 174: Frank de Winne of the Netherlands…

However Frank De Winne is Belgium’s second astronaut, who flew on Soyuz TMA-01 in 2002 (see photo with Belgium flag). Belgium’s first astronaut was Dr Dirk Frimout onboard Atlantis during STS-45 in 1992.

Philip
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posted 04-09-2008 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And a very good article by Ken Kremer on the Launch Complex 17, nice stuff on Gagarin Training Center by Bert Vis (or how the Soviet-Russians fooled the US ASTP-visitors back in 1973)...

Remember you can always check the Spaceflight website.


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