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Bob M
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posted 11-06-2024 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob M   Click Here to Email Bob M     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps one of the least popular forms of collecting astronaut autographs are signed letters. But to their advantage, besides an autograph, a letter also can contain interesting personal remarks about an astronaut's career and spaceflights.

Astronaut letters are certainly an excellent collecting topic, with several collectors I know having exceptional astronaut signed letter collections. At least one dedicated and determined collector has signed NASA stationary letters (such as the John Young NASA letter below) from all Mercury, Gemini, Apollo and Skylab astronauts; a remarkable achievement. (Me? Because of the difficulty, I mainly concentrated only on letters of the 12 moonwalkers; a challenging endeavor in itself, but certainly doable.)

Ideally, an astronaut letter should have interesting and informative content. Anything included about their spaceflight experience is always desired.

Presented here are letters from five astronauts: John Young, Jack Swigert, Fred Haise, Jerry Carr and Dan Brandenstein. One letter's content contains remarks about an upcoming spaceflight to the moon, and another about personally removing netting from the doomed Apollo 13 lunar module Aquarius.

In this NASA letter, John Young mentions about being selected to the Apollo 16 moon landing mission and its planned landing site.

In this letter on his personal stationary, Jack Swigert thanks me for my contribution to his campaign for the US Congress.

In this extraordinary letter from Fred Haise, he responds to my question about the netting he removed from Lunar Module Aquarius that was later attached to presentation cards. He states: "I pulled it loose from the restraining straps before we abandoned Aquarius." The entire letter is a great example of superb content in a letter.

Below the letter is one of the cards that Haise referred to in his letter that has a piece of netting he personally removed from Aquarius and was attached to the card. Of note is that all these cards with flown material have authentic autographs of the Apollo 13 crew.

On his company's stationary, Jerry Carr describes memorable experiences about his Skylab flight and contains interesting content.

Most space collectors have at least one of the 250,000 famous STS-8 flown covers. This one was signed by four of the five crew members (with Dan Brandenstein signing in person). Brandenstein's letter informs the recipient of the crew's decision not to sign the covers.

But as many of us know and that this cover demonstrates, the decision not to sign was later reversed. So multi-signed STS-8 flown covers are not scarce, except all would be lacking a signature by Bill Thornton, who steadfastly refused to sign any; a loss to all those hoping to have a complete STS-8 crew signed flown cover.

Ken Havekotte
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posted 11-07-2024 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very good topic this time around with spotlighting signed letters. Loved Bob's choices with using the John Young, Jerry Carr, and Fred Haise letters, which by the way, the Apollo 13 LMP wrote a more detailed or extensive letter in 2017 to help certify a flown LM-7 netting project that I had been involved with. Your letter of the same topic, Bob, in 2000 is a first that I have seen in this area.

Like Bob, I have always been keenly interested in collecting signed astronaut letters for a variety of reasons as he has pointed out. They can be quite historical with their personal observations, opinions, and remarks by our space pioneering heroes.

While I do own countless numbers of autographed astronaut letters of various formats and types from Mercury to Space Shuttle, I do lack a full assembly, I am sure, of those first NASA selected astronaut groups from 1-7 (1959-69) of only signed NASA letterhead (or stationery) letters of those first 73 astronauts from Mercury to Apollo-Soyuz (ASTP).

Included, but not posted here at the moment, are signed different types of letters by Grissom, White, Chaffee, Bassett, and See, but do lack those of Givens, Freeman (I think), Williams, Chapman, Michel, and many from the shuttle program era. But with so many shuttle astronauts, flown or not, long ago I have decided not to pursue a primary collecting goal of signed shuttle astronaut letters (perhaps Bob along with a few others can do so and good luck)!

For now, let me start with our nation's first astronaut or spaceman pioneer, Alan Shepard, that everyone knows as the first American in space and ten years later became the fifth human to explore the moon's surface.

Seen below are a few signed Shepard letters written during the 1960's, 70's, 80's, and concluding with the late 1990's. I've tried to show different letterhead designs (two are by NASA) along with different types of autographs, hand-applied and typed letters (one being a memo), a signed air force flying authorization form, signed contract documents, different letter contents, and ending up with a more than 600-word penned draft proposal by Shepard in 1987 of a national astronaut space re-organization.

On a personal note, though, three of the depicted letters are of a personal basis while a couple of others were written to Space Age celebrities in their own right that Shepard knew and/or closely worked with. Of particular interest is the letter at top row addressed to space autograph collector friend Bob Glass of New York in 1967. Note that Shepard responded of NASA's autograph policy at the time when Gemini had ended and signed his name in full.

If Bob allows, and if there is further reader interest in this topic, perhaps Bob and I, along with anyone else that would like to join in, we can take each astronaut down the line with letters as outlined. Next could be Gus Grissom and John Glenn.

bobslittlebro
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posted 11-09-2024 05:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bobslittlebro   Click Here to Email bobslittlebro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice set of astronaut signed letters Bob. I remember seeing the Jack Swigert signed letter during one of my visits.

Bob M
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posted 11-09-2024 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob M   Click Here to Email Bob M     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Tim. It would be good to see you again and we don't live too far apart. I've added a "few" things since you last visited many years ago.

Concerning astronaut letters: they have never been a big part of my collecting interest, although I do really like them and consider them a great collecting topic, but not of interest to many.

Collecting them is not easy, as dealers and other collectors don't have big inventories of them and they can be quite expensive when found, such as signed letters by Armstrong, Grissom, Ed White, Jack Swigert and Bill Anders.

And early astronaut letters can have autopens applied and even secretarials, especially with Shepard and Grissom letters.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 11-09-2024 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As I mentioned to Bob via email, the timing of this topic was fortunate as I was in the process of reorganizing my papers and documents into a new storage case. I don't collect autographs any longer, but I have a small pile of letters that I have received from astronauts in the course of my work.

Most only have content that would be of interest to me, but here is a letter that I received from John Glenn in 1998 after I requested he take part in Ask An Astronaut, the first website to let the public interact with astronauts online.

Ken Havekotte
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posted 11-10-2024 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very nice Robert and I love your letter from Senator Glenn. Your "Ask An Astronaut" questions program back then, I believe, was the first attempt that I know of in getting astronauts to participate online with students and others.

Just curious to know, Robert, if you recall some of the first questions and answers addressed by Glenn in 1998?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 11-10-2024 07:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Ken. Glenn field questions on...
  • ...on the Melatonin experiment planed for STS-95.
  • ...the lights in Perth, Australia.
  • ...the progress of NASA programs.
  • ...viewing stars during the shuttle mission.
  • ...the results of the aging studies.
  • ...the length of astronaut training.
  • ...running for president.
  • ...desires for the shuttle mission.
  • ...items he took with him to space.
  • ...the windows on Discovery.
The site is long offline, but it has been archived in part by the Wayback Machine. That page includes both the questions and answers from the 1998 session and a Q&A from two years earlier.

Hart Sastrowardoyo
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posted 11-12-2024 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have / had a few, but I like this one, picked up on the secondary market:
I suspect my signature will be of little value to you now. People want autographs of those who fly space ships, not of those who drive dog sleds. None the less, I have signed the enclosed as you requested.

/s/ Palmer Bailey, Terra Geode Payload Specialist

Bob M
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posted 11-12-2024 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob M   Click Here to Email Bob M     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent and fascinating letter, Hart. Palmer Bailey is just one of many individuals involved in the Space Shuttle Payload Specialist program who didn't get an opportunity to fly in space.

Autographs of such individuals would make for an interesting separate collection.

Hart Sastrowardoyo
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posted 11-13-2024 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hart Sastrowardoyo   Click Here to Email Hart Sastrowardoyo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*Nods* I have two separate letters, from Kenneth Bechis and Dennis Boesen, about the always-delayed then canceled STARLAB flight. Put together, they make a nice insight into the flight. ~ I had a great letter from Nigel Wood about his canceled 61H flight, but no longer have it.

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