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Robert Pearlman
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posted 10-31-2023 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No further details yet, but as noted in a recent email from BeenInSpace.com:
...for the first time in (Russian) space history, active cosmonauts have refused to sign covers for [Soyuz] MS-24, [Oleg] Kononenko apparently instructed his crew not to sign covers, even signed photos were less available this time. We don't know the reason yet, but will closely follow the situation.

Neil DC
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posted 10-31-2023 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neil DC   Click Here to Email Neil DC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kononenko was always a good signer in person. He has a whole year up there to change his mind on this.

SkyMan1958
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posted 10-31-2023 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkyMan1958   Click Here to Email SkyMan1958     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Two possibilities come immediately to mind. I'm not saying either is true, these just come to mind.

First, fall out from the Ukrainian war is causing issues for cosmonauts who try to sell international crew covers in Russia. Second, Kononenko is (assuming no disaster) going to pass Padalka to become the human with the longest amount of time in space. Further, given current uncertainties with regards to follow on space stations, particularly with regards to future Russian stations, this record for time in space will probably stand for quite a while. Given that, Kononeko might be trying to limit his amount of signatures on the ISS to increase the value of the ones he does eventually sell in the future.

I suspect we'll see more of his signatures at the tail end of the mission. Further, it would be surprising to me if he didn't sign any covers etc. with the visiting Belorussian MS-25 crew.

spaceflori
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posted 11-02-2023 04:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceflori   Click Here to Email spaceflori     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Before rumors spread: The info about Kononenko refusing to sign philatelic material (photos are fine although reported less than usual) came from one specific source.

We do not know at this time what the reason was or the background is. This was certainly not meant as a marketing gag. However recent flown ISS covers also lack his signature already which is quite uncommon for cosmonauts.

Anyway I'm aware of authentically signed MS-24 covers from other sources where Kononenko autographed. I'm looking into the situation to see what the reason might be!

spaceflori
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posted 11-02-2023 05:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceflori   Click Here to Email spaceflori     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Short update:

Another reliable source confirmed that Kononenko indeed refused to sign for "private people," which means he did sign for official sources where the covers mentioned before originate (don't ask me for the logic).

The amount of signed MS-24 material indeed is very low so far, it may change in the future, so that's no final conclusion.

This has nothing to do with politics however, I was confirmed, simply a private thing of Kononenko.

india-mike
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posted 11-03-2023 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for india-mike   Click Here to Email india-mike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wrote to Kononenko in the autumn of 2021 and attached several photos. He signed them for me and sent them back in February 2022. Let us see how he will handle autograph requests in the future.

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posted 11-22-2023 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soviet space   Click Here to Email soviet space     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I myself witnessed that Oleg refuse, but simply ran away from people, only an American and a Canadian remained to sign, then I simply got photos without Kononenko.

Yes, this year he refused to sign because it was not his first time flying and he was simply tired, and besides, he had a clear signature. He signed the envelopes, but the circulation is smaller.

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Originally posted by SkyMan1958:
Further, it would be surprising to me if he didn't sign any covers etc. with the visiting Belorussian MS-25 crew.
Belarusians were together with Oleg Novitsky at the meeting on October 27 in Star City, I saw them together.

Tom
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posted 11-22-2023 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I noticed on one of the ISS flown covers shown that they were missing signatures of two cosmonauts...Kononenko (Soyuz MS-24) and Borisov (Crew 7).

cosmos-walter
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posted 11-23-2023 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cosmos-walter   Click Here to Email cosmos-walter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Konstantin Borisov is member of SpaceX Crew-7. He is signing all on-board covers which are signed by Crew-7.

Tom
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posted 11-24-2023 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For example, missing Borisov (source):

cosmos-walter
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posted 11-25-2023 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cosmos-walter   Click Here to Email cosmos-walter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here are some of my Dragon Crew-7 signed on-board covers:

Tom
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posted 11-25-2023 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't understand how those can be examples of Crew-7 on board signed covers when that crew was launched late August and those were all dated way before that?

cosmos-walter
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posted 11-26-2023 03:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cosmos-walter   Click Here to Email cosmos-walter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Before landing Sergey Prokopiev asked Crew-7 to sign some of the covers he did during his stay on board ISS.

Erroneously I submitted the Dragon CRS-27 cover which is signed by Soyuz MS-22 and SpaceX Crew-6 crews.

Tom
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posted 11-27-2023 05:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the explanation.

amcombill
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posted 10-25-2024 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amcombill   Click Here to Email amcombill     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The USPS website still says that mail from the US to Russia is restricted. Is that actually the case?

What happens if you try to mail a request to Russia? Does the Post Office simply return it?

What is protocol for return postage? Enclose a couple of bucks?

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