Space News
space history and artifacts articles

Messages
space history discussion forums

Sightings
worldwide astronaut appearances

Resources
selected space history documents

  collectSPACE: Messages
  Space Places
  Wings of Dreams (Starke, Fla.): Shuttle artifacts

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq | search

next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   Wings of Dreams (Starke, Fla.): Shuttle artifacts
Robert Pearlman
Editor

Posts: 42988
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999

posted 04-24-2013 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
collectSPACE
Space shuttle external fuel tank, astronaut mover on barge for Florida museum

The last of the space shuttle's massive orange external fuel tanks located at NASA's Florida launch site left Kennedy Space Center by barge on Wednesday (April 24) — but it's not going very far.

The 154-foot-long (47-meters) external tank, one of the shuttle program's original test articles that for years was displayed at Kennedy's visitor complex, departed the spaceport for the Wings of Dreams Aviation Museum at the Keystone Heights Airport in Starke, Fla., about an hour southeast of Jacksonville.

...the tank, along with several other large shuttle artifacts including a nose cone and aft skirt of a solid rocket booster and the crew transport vehicle that astronauts rode in after landing the shuttle at Kennedy, were making the first leg of their journey to the Wings of Dreams by water, before embarking on a still-to-be-scheduled 55-mile (88.5-kilometer) road trip to the museum.

Robert Pearlman
Editor

Posts: 42988
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999

posted 04-24-2013 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Wings of Dreams Aviation Museum has been awarded more than 40 space shuttle artifacts, including:
  • Shuttle Guidance and Navigation Simulator (GNS)
  • Space Shuttle External Tank
  • Hubble Mock-Up
  • External Tank Transporters (2)
  • Payload Bay Door Trainer
  • Crew Escape Pole Trainer
  • Launch pad escape basket
  • Apollo life support umbilical
  • Apollo wrenches (23)
  • Shuttle flight pallet
  • Shuttle tire – nose & main
  • Astronaut dehydrated food
  • Main wheel assembly
  • Fuel cell heat exchanger
  • Crew transporter vehicle
  • Scissor lift destow truck
  • DC power supply assembly
  • Solid Rocket Booster Aft Skirt
  • Solid Rocket Booster Frustum
  • Solid Rocket Booster Forward Skirt
  • Solid Rocket Booster Main Parachute Canopy Assembly
  • Shuttle Pilot Parachute Canopy Assembly
  • Shuttle Drogue Parachute Canopy Assembly
  • Thermal protection system inspection step stool
  • Orbiter Processing Facility Clean Room with autographs
  • Orbiter Horizontal Access Tunnel
  • Triana Satellite Gyroscopic Upper Stage (GUS) Mockup
  • Triana Satellite Solid Rocket Motor (SRM) Mockup
  • Apollo horizon sensor system
  • Shuttle chamber assembly OMS engine
  • Orbiter main/nose landing gear wheel and brake assembly
  • Orbiter crew hatch access vehicle

RISPACE
Member

Posts: 67
From: Warwick, RI USA
Registered: Jan 2006

posted 04-25-2013 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RISPACE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Was the External Tank stored at the VAB since November?

Robert Pearlman
Editor

Posts: 42988
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999

posted 04-25-2013 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, it was held at the surplus yard on Ransom Road located near Space Commerce Way and State Road 3.

p51
Member

Posts: 1642
From: Olympia, WA
Registered: Sep 2011

posted 04-25-2013 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Geez, I'd never even heard of this place and I grew up in North Florida.

Robert Pearlman
Editor

Posts: 42988
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999

posted 04-25-2013 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The museum is relatively new, having only been established in 2005. They do not yet have any exhibit buildings (they previously had a hangar at the airport but it was needed for other purposes). They have organized a few air shows though, and are gearing up quickly to start displaying the aviation and space artifacts in their collection.

ea757grrl
Member

Posts: 729
From: South Carolina
Registered: Jul 2006

posted 03-21-2014 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ea757grrl   Click Here to Email ea757grrl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been in Gainesville for an academic conference the last day or so, and took time this afternoon to drive over to the Wings of Dreams Aviation Museum at Keystone Airpark near Starke. You may remember the museum received several pieces of Shuttle hardware, including the test article External Tank that used to be on display at the KSC Visitors Complex.

Right now the museum is operating out of an office trailer while they're raising funds and making preparations for the museum complex. I dropped in only expecting to see what was in the current museum, and one of the volunteers on duty started to give me a guided tour. They have a display near the entrance about the External Tank and other items, but when he learned I was really interested in spaceflight, he said: "Well, if you've got some time, I can show you some of the other stuff we have."

I'm glad I did, because he drove me to a hangar that's packed absolutely full of Shuttle-era hardware. One of the highlights was being taken to where the crew cabin section of the Shuttle simulator is in storage. There are no words to describe standing there within the simulator, peering over into the cockpit, and knowing all the history written within that simulator. There's so much packed into that hangar that I couldn't begin to list it all (though the 6-foot-tall model of the VAB comes to mind!), but if they're able to make this museum project happen, it's going to be something else.

Later in my visit my guide drove me over to the other end of the airfield, where the SRB components, the crew hatch access vehicle, the crew transfer vehicle and some other items are in storage. We went aboard the CTV, which was another "wow!" experience.

The museum's executive director stopped by while we were looking at the Shuttle cockpit simulator, and we talked for a little while. He told me about the time he got to fly the simulator with an instructor in the other seat, and about his vision for the reassembled display in the forthcoming museum. (He was also happy when I told him I learned about the museum from collectSPACE! They're grateful for the buzz the Internet is giving their efforts.)

I didn't expect to get the "behind the scenes" tour - in fact, they ask that you call ahead - but since it happened to be a slow day, I got an unexpected surprise, and it made the drive completely worthwhile. If any of you are in the area, give these folks a call and see if you can arrange to view the artifacts in storage. They seem like nice people with a cool vision, and I hope they can make that vision become a reality soon.

Editor's note: Threads merged.

dwager
Member

Posts: 59
From: Augusta, GA
Registered: Sep 2014

posted 07-21-2019 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dwager   Click Here to Email dwager     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I took these photos on the way to Green Cove Springs, Florida, just south of Jacksonville. My brother-in-law showed this shuttle tank to me. He says the tank was only used for testing. It sits in a marina on the St. Johns River.

Was wondering if anyone had any info. Where was it used? Why is it there? It looks like a shuttle main tank... thanks.

Editor's note: Threads merged.

Grounded!
Member

Posts: 367
From: Bennington, Vermont, USA
Registered: Feb 2011

posted 07-21-2019 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Grounded!   Click Here to Email Grounded!     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It can be seen on Google Earth and is located on Reynolds Blvd.

Robert Pearlman
Editor

Posts: 42988
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999

posted 07-21-2019 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Daniel, I moved and merged your post with this thread to help answer your questions. You can read about the tank's history in the article linked from the top of this topic.

Until recently, it was waiting for delivery to the Wings of Dreams Museum at Keystone Heights Airport, but the airport commission has decided to no longer support the museum and it is expected that all of its collection will need to be surplussed or discarded by the state or federal government.

dwager
Member

Posts: 59
From: Augusta, GA
Registered: Sep 2014

posted 07-21-2019 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dwager   Click Here to Email dwager     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Robert. I remember my brother-in-law saying something to the effect that it was on its way to a museum nearby, but I had no context. Wish I could get it through surplus for my backyard...

denali414
Member

Posts: 593
From: Raleigh, NC
Registered: Aug 2017

posted 07-22-2019 05:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for denali414   Click Here to Email denali414     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How would you find out when and if they are going to surplus or auction off the items? Is there some site that tracks such things in Florida?

Ken Havekotte
Member

Posts: 2915
From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard
Registered: Mar 2001

posted 07-22-2019 07:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ken Havekotte   Click Here to Email Ken Havekotte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's too bad for the museum in Starke, FL, perhaps not being able to support all the shuttle artifacts. I would love to get a hold of the OPF clean room with all of those signatures on the wall panels, of which, my own signature should be included while on a visit there many years ago. Would love to see that along with a few other cool artifacts.

Robert Pearlman
Editor

Posts: 42988
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999

posted 07-22-2019 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From what I understand, the details have not yet been worked out, but participation may be restricted to Florida state institutions (museums, educational centers), similar to how these pieces were initially released through the GSA NASA historic artifacts disposition program.

p51
Member

Posts: 1642
From: Olympia, WA
Registered: Sep 2011

posted 07-22-2019 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've never understood why nothing was ever given the Florida State Museum in Tallahassee. They don't have a massive place for the museum in the basement of the RA Grey building, but it'd be neat to have the white room on display to show Florida's contribution to the space race...

Robert Pearlman
Editor

Posts: 42988
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999

posted 07-22-2019 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Other than the space shuttle orbiters and major simulators, NASA didn't pick where the shuttle program artifacts went — they set up a museum screening program through the General Services Administration and museums applied for items.

Though it is possible the Florida State Museum applied for pieces that went to other requesting institutions, it is perhaps more likely that it did not participate.

All times are CT (US)

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | The Source for Space History & Artifacts

Copyright 2020 collectSPACE.com All rights reserved.


Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.47a





advertisement