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Topic: Shuttle Resolution! crew compartment replica
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Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 46233 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 12-30-2009 10:10 AM
NASA Kennedy Space Center feature Builder's 'Resolution' a Labor of LoveChuck Ryan's story of a space shuttle trainer called "Resolution" is one of time and timing. Ryan began building a full-scale mock-up of the shuttle's crew compartment some 15 years ago when he was still an engineering student at the California Polytechnic State University, Cal-Poly. Credit: NASA/Steve Siceloff Image above: Chuck Ryan stands in front of the space shuttle crew compartment replica he built when he was going to school in California. The replica now stands near Kennedy Space Center. The attention to detail is obvious: on the outside, careful layering of fiberglass displays the rounded aerodynamic features of a real shuttle. On the inside, Ryan said, the cockpit was complete down to the thousandth toggle switch. "I was one of those children of Apollo," Ryan said. "I was very interested in NASA my whole life." Ryan said he gave his first NASA-focused presentation in fourth grade. He got a scuba diving license at age 13 and started learning to fly airplanes when he was 15, though his parents didn't know about it. "I was actually flying over my house without them even knowing it," Ryan said. While studying at Cal-Poly, Ryan volunteered at NASA's Ames Research Center near San Francisco. Since the space agency has certain restrictions against self-promotion, Ryan formed a student group to advertise NASA's goals and missions. Part of the work included building a shuttle flight deck into a flight simulator so people could pretend to fly a shuttle. Working on their own time with donated wood, steel and other materials, the group of about 10 students decided to add a middeck and mount the flight deck to the top of it. Eventually, they added a mock-up of the 60-foot-long cargo bay. Ryan explains: "It all started with a phrase that should never be uttered: 'How hard can it be?'" It was far from a smooth construction process, though. At one point, the flight deck fell from a crane and shattered on impact. "I thought that was it," Ryan said. Ryan and his small band regrouped to rebuild the flight deck. But the large mock-up had to be moved from its construction site on campus. The students found a home for it 30 miles away on a strawberry farm. Credit: Chuck Ryan Image above: "Resolution" as it was being built in Santa Maria, Calif. He finished it there and it weighed about 15 tons at that point. But then it had to be moved again to make way for a housing development. By this time, though, the real shuttle program had a retirement date. Saying he was asked by NASA to configure the mock-up as a trainer for firefighters to practice with, Ryan packed the shuttle for shipment by train to NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida, more than 2,000 miles away. It rolled into the rail yard near the Vehicle Assembly Building the day after space shuttle Discovery’s Return to Flight mission, STS-114, launched in 2005. "For one brief moment, the Resolution was part of the fleet," Ryan said. After a couple days in the rail yard, the mock-up was on the move again, this time stopping at a part of land where Ryan reassembled it while trying to determine its future. He even rode out Tropical Storm Fay inside the mock-up in August 2008 and sought shelter inside it during a tornado warning. The shuttle nose section moved once more to a small parcel of land just outside Kennedy's south gate where drivers can see it easily as they head to and from the center. After Ryan approached NASA this spring saying his project was almost complete, Kennedy fire safety, engineering and center operations personnel began a thorough review for possible uses for the mock-up. But following the evaluation, NASA management determined Kennedy had the right resources to safely train crews and safety professionals through the end of Space Shuttle Program and there wasn’t a need for an additional shuttle trainer with the fleet’s retirement less than a year away. Ryan doesn't know what the future holds for his would-be trainer, but his own plans include resuming his schooling and achieving closure for a project that has consumed much of his adult life. Looking back on the effort, Ryan said the project showed how deeply the promise of space exploration can take hold. "It's a testament to the love of manned spaceflight," Ryan said. |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 46233 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 12-30-2009 10:17 AM
Florida Today coverage: - December 30, 2009 - Shuttle replica still needs a home
After months of searching for a new home for a full-scale model of the space shuttle's crew compartment, Chuck Ryan is beginning to accept the replica he spent almost 15 years building may soon be destroyed.He is now trying to find takers for 1,000 toggle switches, 50 gallons of paint, 40 gallons of fiberglass resin, plywood, tools and other never-used materials... - May 26, 2009 - New home needed for shuttle replica
Local colleges, businesses and a museum in Tampa expressed interest in taking Resolution! as a display. Cape Canaveral is looking into adopting the model."It's hard to say without actually seeing the thing," said Paul Pritchard, vice president of the city's business and cultural development board. "But as there's an interest in developing a space museum, this could be one of the factors to develop that." Florida Today: Contact Chuck Ryan at 805-720-0296 if you are interested in the space shuttle replica or its parts. |
Fra Mauro Member Posts: 1739 From: Bethpage, N.Y. Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 12-31-2009 12:23 AM
He should contact the Cradle of Aviation Museum on Long Island--they have empty space and might want it. |
Tykeanaut Member Posts: 2221 From: Worcestershire, England, UK. Registered: Apr 2008
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posted 12-31-2009 07:51 AM
Please try the National Space Centre in Leicester, U.K. It would probably be a welcome and appreciated exhibit. |
spaced out Member Posts: 3162 From: Paris, France Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 12-31-2009 09:42 AM
Why are there no photos of the interior of the mock-up here or in the linked articles?If you're trying to sell a mock-up of the Shuttle crew compartment I would think the most important thing would be to show at least one photo of the interior. |
Tykeanaut Member Posts: 2221 From: Worcestershire, England, UK. Registered: Apr 2008
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posted 01-01-2010 04:21 AM
Good point! |
kyra Member Posts: 584 From: Louisville CO US Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 01-01-2010 04:29 PM
This is a very sad story. I think many of the city governments are actually afraid of bringing a 30 foot two story wood structure with only one exit into their town. Think fire, building, and safety codes |
Bob M Member Posts: 1788 From: Atlanta-area, GA USA Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 01-02-2010 01:08 PM
It was mentioned in the Florida Today article (link above) that the KSC firefighters needed a new Shuttle mockup trainer to replace the one that they had been using since 1981. The two photos below probably show the one that they were referring to. The photos were taken on May 6, 1988, during rescue training beside the Shuttle Landing Facility. This took place just several months before the STS-26 Return-to-Flight mission. This full-size mockup may have continued to be used for years and since then replaced by another (?). |
Lunar rock nut Member Posts: 916 From: Oklahoma city, Oklahoma U.S.A. Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 01-09-2010 01:49 PM
I contacted the Stafford Air and Space Museum by phone this morning although the director was not there. The young lady I spoke to took a message plus gave me the necessary email info. I then sent them the link to this thread. Possibly they can give Resolution a home. There are many school kids active in the programs they offer. Resolution would great addition in Weatherford. |
E2M Lem Man Member Posts: 846 From: Los Angeles CA. USA Registered: Jan 2005
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posted 01-12-2010 01:21 PM
We are checking some places out here on the great left coast. There are a few places that would be enriched by having this in there collection. We at Aerospace Legacy are trying a few places for these folks! |
spaceman1953 Member Posts: 953 From: South Bend, IN Registered: Apr 2002
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posted 01-14-2010 08:47 PM
I got space for it way less than a mile away from John Glenn High School and less than two miles from Harold Urey Middle School in Walkerton, Indiana!Just need "someones" to donate the transportation costs. US 6 runs right through Walkerton and HUGE freight semi's come down it all the time! With just a very few additional dollars, we could even build an unheated building around it! |
Rocket Chris Member Posts: 384 From: Guttentag Registered: Nov 2009
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posted 05-10-2010 11:24 AM
Probably the Speyer Technical Museum would be interested. They have the OK-GLI Buran and this would be a nice couple... |
RViohl New Member Posts: 1 From: Coopersburg, PA, USA Registered: Apr 2011
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posted 04-14-2011 03:44 AM
I spotted this replica while leaving the KSC Visitor's Center. While heading south on SR 3 (N. Courtney), the Resolution was on the left at Pine Isle Rd., behind a gated property with no trespassing signage. There is enough room to pull off-road and look through the fence, however. Take the first u-turn after the site and head north to park. If you see Shuttle's Bar and Grill and Space Coast shirts, you've passed it. |
FullThrottle Member Posts: 93 From: Seattle, WA, USA Registered: Sep 2010
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posted 04-14-2011 11:13 AM
I actually saw this thing on my first STS-133 trip but it was raining so hard I didn't stop... On STS-133 launch #2 it was beautiful weather and I did remember to whip a u-turn to check it out.I will admit that I went through the bent up gate to get a closer look, but it was boarded up so I couldn't really see inside. I could tell by the construction material that it wasn't aerospace build and I actually thought it might be a childrens play fort. As cool as the thing really is, after getting an up close look (not inside) I don't think any museum is going to have much interest in it. Like I said, after getting a close look I actually assumed it was a children's play fort because it was mostly wood/steel/plywood. I wonder where he's storing all the other parts? Very cool project none the less, even if it isn't museum quality its alot more than I'd ever be able to pull off! Thanks for posting the story on this thing, I had forgotten to ask the collectSPACE gurus about the story on it! |
xlsteve Member Posts: 393 From: Holbrook MA, USA Registered: Jul 2008
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posted 11-10-2011 09:42 AM
I happened to notice this on the side of the road while exiting Kennedy Space Center. I turned around and got this picture. |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 46233 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 11-10-2011 09:58 AM
What a difference a few months makes; here's how Resolution! looked in April (2011): |
Jay Chladek Member Posts: 2272 From: Bellevue, NE, USA Registered: Aug 2007
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posted 11-11-2011 09:06 AM
I saw it myself in July when I came down for STS-135 and it looked about like it did in April. Looks like some trophy hunters are pulling parts off of it, or the weather is finally taking its toll. All it needs is a sign in front that says "abandon in place". |
Constellation One Member Posts: 119 From: Lorain, Ohio, USA Registered: Aug 2008
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posted 11-11-2011 11:34 AM
I attempted to contact the builder several times without a call back.I'm not sure a "rescue" could of happened, but I sure was willing to give it a shot and look at the possibilities. If by chance this post makes it to him, I still invite contact. |
p51 Member Posts: 1708 From: Olympia, WA Registered: Sep 2011
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posted 11-11-2011 11:48 PM
Mockup types like this are always curious to me. I have yet to hear of one where someone with a dream didn't realize at the end of the project that they have no place to display or store the thing. I'd like to know what the builder(s) intended for it once it was completed. I too would LOVE to see photos of the interior of this. Was it ever wired up? Otherwise I wouldn't get what the purpose was to build it. I had no idea this existed before now and when I was at Kennedy Space Center in September I would have tried looking for it. |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 46233 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 11-12-2011 04:12 AM
quote: Originally posted by p51: Otherwise I wouldn't get what the purpose was to build it.
The NASA feature article at the top of this thread answers that question: Since the space agency has certain restrictions against self-promotion, Ryan formed a student group to advertise NASA's goals and missions. Part of the work included building a shuttle flight deck into a flight simulator so people could pretend to fly a shuttle. So it was intended to be "wired up" but by the time the students neared completion of the mockup, the real shuttle was marked for retirement, negating the project's original purpose. |
Resolutioncmdr New Member Posts: 1 From: Minneapolis, MN USA Registered: Apr 2012
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posted 04-17-2012 09:00 PM
Thank you so much for all if your interest. I am the builder and I am trying desperately to find my baby a home! More than 15 years, hundreds of companies donating material, equipment and services. A book in a year and and movie in two. Even though Tropical Storm Faye hit us hard I am hoping, with my help, the Resolution! can be save and used for education and the good of the Country. Please contact me any time. Chuck Ryan, 805-720-0296. Thank you all again! |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 46233 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 04-20-2014 07:17 AM
Florida Today has revisited the Resolution! and Chuck Ryan, who built the replica space shuttle crew compartment as a student. Ryan tried to find a good home for the shuttle, but no one wanted to pay to move it, a job only a crane could handle. He stripped toggle switches and seats and anything inside. The materials went to whoever would take them.In recent years, Mother Nature has composted much of the wood that formed the shuttle's nose. Today, only the crew quarters remain, a rotting, soggy mass of particle board and peeling green paint. Birds have nested among the support beams. Wasps have claimed corners and Brazilian pepper trees are climbing in, too. The shuttle is slightly hidden beside a road frequented by space center workers. The black letters of Resolution! on the starboard side now read: Resolu. The peeling plastic letters on the port side read, perhaps ironically: solution!. A sign for Atlantic Mortgage Services of Satellite Beach leans against rubble near the shipwrecked shuttle. Atlantic president Dan Overstreet owns the land where Resolution! rests. He said he's looking for a space-related use for the shuttle. He doesn't want to destroy it, calling it a "local fixture." |
p51 Member Posts: 1708 From: Olympia, WA Registered: Sep 2011
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posted 04-21-2014 11:52 AM
Man, that's so sad. All that work for nothing...I had no idea about this when I was at KSC in 2011, and I'm going back there this Fall, but I'm sure I even want to go looking for it. |
JSC01 Member Posts: 85 From: Houston, Texas, USA Registered: Nov 2011
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posted 04-21-2014 12:49 PM
It's still astonishing to me that this wonderful high fidelity replica was not grabbed by some institution for display. Perhaps if the mockup were in separate segements it might have been easier to transport somewhere... |
p51 Member Posts: 1708 From: Olympia, WA Registered: Sep 2011
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posted 04-21-2014 12:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by JSC01: It's still astonishing to me that this wonderful high fidelity replica was not grabbed by some institution for display.
I'm not surprised at all. I'm into railroad preservation and you see it all the time with RR cars someone has set aside. Everyone agrees it has value, and plenty of people agree that 'someone' should preserve it, but when you counter with, "Okay, why not YOU?," then the excuses come out like water.You'd need a crane and a big truck to move something like that. And nobody ever wants to spend the money for that... |
cfreeze79 Member Posts: 464 From: Herndon, VA, USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 10-16-2016 06:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by Resolutioncmdr: A book in a year and and movie in two.
Did the book on this ever materialize? |
Hart Sastrowardoyo Member Posts: 3452 From: Toms River, NJ Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 10-17-2016 12:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by p51: You'd need a crane and a big truck to move something like that.
I can attest to this. There were two railroad cars that took forever to move from Long Beach Island, NJ (Surf City, if I recall correctly) to Manahawkin, on the mainland due to logistics and money. Then the cars were left to deteriorate until they were destroyed in a fire. I believe the sentiment was, if they weren't going to be preserved, they wouldn't have moved them. |
bwhite1976 Member Posts: 287 From: Belleville, IL Registered: Jun 2011
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posted 10-17-2016 08:10 PM
Here are a few pics dated Aug. 2015. I cannot imagine this surviving the Hurricane head on.
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bwhite1976 Member Posts: 287 From: Belleville, IL Registered: Jun 2011
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posted 10-18-2016 04:24 PM
I know people have more important things to do in Florida right now, but I would love to see if this thing still exists. |
GACspaceguy Member Posts: 2705 From: Guyton, GA Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 11-04-2016 09:07 AM
I am here in the Titusville area and remembered to stop at the Resolution mockup. |
p51 Member Posts: 1708 From: Olympia, WA Registered: Sep 2011
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posted 11-04-2016 05:28 PM
I didn't think to look for it the last time I was there, but this most recent photo pretty much proves it's all over but the crying... |
Joel Katzowitz Member Posts: 835 From: Marietta GA USA Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 11-04-2016 05:38 PM
Fred, I'm surprised you didn't post a shot of you shoe-horning it into the back of your truck. |
GACspaceguy Member Posts: 2705 From: Guyton, GA Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 11-04-2016 06:12 PM
Put a shoe horn under this and it looks like it would crumble into a heap of saw dust. I am very surprised it survived hurricane Matthew at all. |
JBoe Member Posts: 991 From: Edgewater, MD Registered: Oct 2012
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posted 10-06-2017 03:13 PM
You can see Resolution from the highway on SR 3 (N Courtney Parkway) via Space Commerce Way south of the Kennedy Space Center Visitor Center. Resolution looks similar to the photo Robert posted in his 20 April 2014 posting. I couldn't really tell the amount of deterioration since the last posting. |
bonneville mariner Member Posts: 15 From: Tooele, Utah USA Registered: Jan 2019
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posted 11-17-2020 03:31 PM
I visited Resolution! last Friday (Nov. 13). She's seen better days. |
cfreeze79 Member Posts: 464 From: Herndon, VA, USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 03-09-2021 02:08 PM
I am no longer seeing this on Google Earth. Did its three-dimensional-ness finally succumb to the elements? |
Dave_Johnson Member Posts: 129 From: Registered: Feb 2014
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posted 05-11-2021 06:05 PM
Came across this Twitter post showing the current state of decay of Resolution.
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