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Topic: Hurricane Frances damage to Kennedy Space Center
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Leon Ford Member Posts: 309 From: Shreveport, LA, United States Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 09-01-2004 03:59 PM
I have been following the news reports of the progress of Hurricane Frances and it looks like the Kennedy Space Center might take a pretty good hit from the storm.Most of the buildings at KSC were built in the 1960s to withstand winds of 110 to 115 mph. The Shuttle Orbiter Hangers were built to withstand winds of 105 mph. I know budget cuts have kept a lot of money from being spent on building up keep around the Cape for many years. I hope this doesn't come back to haunt NASA. I have heard the VAB is in pretty bad shape. At 2 pm today, the highest winds of Hurricane Frances were in the 140 mph range. |
Rizz Member Posts: 1208 From: Upcountry, Maui, Hawaii Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 09-01-2004 05:42 PM
...and its moving towards warmer water. |
albatron Member Posts: 2732 From: Stuart, Florida Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 09-01-2004 10:47 PM
Actually the ambient water temp is all about the same in the areas Frances will be in, save for the Gulf Stream, and generally the GS turns them more northward. It is also forecast to weaken over the Bahamas (also normal) and by the time it reaches land, the winds are expected to be reduced to 115. Anyway lets hope. I have always been amazed they built it to only those specs, and have not strenghtened it since. |
DavidH Member Posts: 1217 From: Huntsville, AL, USA Registered: Jun 2003
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posted 09-02-2004 10:34 AM
Good article on the subject: "If there were serious damage to one or two of the orbiters or the facilities needed to process and launch the orbiters, I think it would raise a very large question about the continuation of the shuttle program," Logsdon said. |
LoneStar Scouter Member Posts: 927 From: Houston, TX Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 09-02-2004 10:54 AM
Time to load those orbiters on 747s and fly them here to Oklahoma... |
Blackarrow Member Posts: 3120 From: Belfast, United Kingdom Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 09-02-2004 06:45 PM
Good point, but how many of the shuttle orbiters are in a fit state to fly on top of the 747? Could a shuttler be flown out without, say, its engines? One or both OMS pods? What about the centre of gravity and aerodynamic stability? |
spaceman1953 Member Posts: 953 From: South Bend, IN Registered: Apr 2002
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posted 09-02-2004 07:22 PM
Moving those shuttles would be a good idea. Wonder if anybody in authority has thought/talked about it.Since you all already started this Frances thread, I will take this opportunity to wish all our collectSPACE friends down in that part of the world Godspeed. and hope that somehow they took the most important parts of their collections with them.
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Hawkman Member Posts: 400 From: Union, New Jersey Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 09-05-2004 02:15 PM
I hope the Fox News site keeps the picture up long enough to see but if it doesn't, it shows the Mercury Redstone on its side at KSC, bent, damaged and missing pieces. |
spaceuk Member Posts: 2113 From: Staffs, UK Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 09-05-2004 02:48 PM
Sad to see, but it looks repairable from the images.It is to be hoped that other structures — like gantries, viewing stands, comms towers etc — on KSC and CCAFS weathered the storm better. But, more importantly than the hardware, I just hope all our space friends (and everyone down there in Florida and surrounding states) are safe and well. |
FFrench Member Posts: 3161 From: San Diego Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 09-05-2004 10:02 PM
As expected, Ed Mitchell did not show at the autograph event in Burbank, California this weekend due to the storms — but Guenter Wendt was there. He was leaving this afternoon and was understandably concerned at the footage he had seen of the Redstone near his Titusville home.Please join me in hoping that his home is okay, along with everyone else in Florida. |
collshubby Member Posts: 591 From: Madisonville, Louisiana Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 09-06-2004 12:20 AM
That is a sad photo to see of the Mercury-Redstone. But as said above, it does look like it can be repaired.I noticed today that all of the KSC-based websites that I tried to access were down. Has anyone else noticed this? I was mainly trying to access mission pages. Looks like there is another lurking, called Ivan or something like that.
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Choose2Go Member Posts: 73 From: Merritt Island, FL, USA Registered: Feb 2004
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posted 09-06-2004 10:51 AM
I drove by KSC this morning and noticed that besides the Redstone at the Titusville gate the south Merritt Island gate had damage to the Mercury mockup. The Visitor Complex's Rocket Garden had damage as the Juno has toppled and the Thor-Delta lost its upper stage.
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star51L Member Posts: 340 From: Vilano Beach, FL, USA Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 09-06-2004 01:10 PM
NASA has released the first damage assessment for the Kennedy Space Center: Emergency crews are on site at Kennedy Space Center in Florida and are providing the first information on conditions there following Hurricane Frances. They report that key buildings such as the Launch Control Center and the massive, white Vehicle Assembly Building are still standing. The emergency crews see some exterior damage to the VAB, where Space Shuttles are readied for launch. There are a significant number of panels missing from the exterior. The Shuttles themselves rode out the storm in their hangars, known as Orbiter Processing Facilities. We do not yet have information on conditions there. |
star51L Member Posts: 340 From: Vilano Beach, FL, USA Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 09-06-2004 03:40 PM
Additionally from Spaceflight Now: Hurricane Frances has battered the Kennedy Space Center's 525-ft high Vehicle Assembly Building ripping off over 1000 panels from its exterior, Center Director Jim Kennedy told reporters a short while ago. With another Hurricane possibly on course to hit Florida this weekend, the space agency is worried. "The VAB is something of concern," Kennedy said."Not only because of the initial damage but because of the potential that Ivan brings to us. Our weather people tell us that Ivan could be at the backdoor of KSC as early as Saturday." Ivan is a powerful hurricane packing winds of 115 miles per hour, currently located 360 miles east-southeast of Barbados. Although power was lost to all three Orbiter Processing Facilities (OPFs), which shelter the shuttle fleet, there was no significant damage to the buildings other than some minor water intrusion beneath doors. Power has been restored to OPF bays 1 and 2, but not yet at bay 3, which houses Discovery, the shuttle slated for NASA's post-Columbia return to flight. NASA's efforts to return the shuttle fleet to flight could also be impacted by extensive damage to the tile manufacturing facility at the space center. "We believe that the roof is partially gone," Kennedy said. "There is extensive water damage within the facility." Until repairs can be made, NASA is considering reactivating a recently closed tile manufacturing facility in Palmdale, California, according to Kennedy. With each panel on the side of the VAB measuring 4 by 10 feet, Kennedy estimated 40,000 square feet has been exposed to the elements. The damage occured on the south and east facing side. A portion of the grandstand roof at the space center press site has been ripped away and the roof of the news center facility has been damaged. Kennedy Space Center employees, except those in Disaster Assessment and Recovery Teams, are not to report to work tomorrow. |
nojnj Member Posts: 503 From: Highland Heights, KY Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 09-06-2004 05:44 PM
From SpaceRef.com: NASA Kennedy Space Center Director Jim Kennedy held a teleconference with the news media this afternoon and provided a preliminary picture of the damage Hurricane Frances inflicted upon the space center. The Vehicle Assembly Building (VAB) has the most visible damage. According to Kennedy the damage can be seen on the South and East walls of the VAB. There are some 1,000 panels that have lifted off of the building. There are also areas of insulation and subpanels missing. Each panel is 4x10 feet in size. The Shuttle Tile Facility suffered significant damage. The roof is partially gone and there is extensive water damage inside. There does not appear to be any damage to the Space Shuttles Discovery, Atlantis, or Endeavour. |
Steve Smith Member Posts: 503 From: Wichita, Kansas, USA Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 09-06-2004 07:10 PM
An update on Guenter Wendt: We were on the same plane from Burbank to Dallas that left at 6:50 a.m. PDT this Monday, and arrived in Dallas about 11:30 a.m. CDT. He seemed much relieved from his state of mind yesterday afternoon. He noted his wife was okay, and his house okay (may have been some roof tiles blown off). |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42988 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 09-07-2004 03:43 PM
I was told today that the Apollo Saturn V Center "lost its roof," though it was unclear if there was any damage to the Saturn V itself. |
star51L Member Posts: 340 From: Vilano Beach, FL, USA Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 09-07-2004 08:49 PM
Photos: NASA Kennedy Space Center Cleans Up After Hurricane (photos) |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42988 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 06-08-2005 03:59 PM
From A Field Guide To American Spacecraft: On September 5, 2004, Hurricane Francis bore down on Florida's Space Coast, only the second time in recorded history this area was struck by the full force of a hurricane (and second of what would be three strikes that summer). One unfortunate result was the damage of the Mercury Spacecraft mockup atop the Redstone booster found at KSC's Gate 2 on State Hwy. 3. Many of the corrugated panels were tossed around the parking are by the Press Center nearby.On June 7, 2005, the spacecraft returned. Guard Lee of Apopka, FL, produced the fiberglass reproduction using the original framwork removed earlier. The aluminum escape tower mockup was also cleaned and repainted. This new capsule serves double duty, providing an authentic looking vehicle but also acting as a rain umbrella, preventing future water damage to the booster interior. Pictures and more details are here.Jim Gerard, who runs AFGAS, also notes that the toppled Redstone that once stood near KSC Gate 3 has recently been discovered to be one of only two uprated Redstone boosters that did not fly. Until this discovery, the location of neither original Mercury-Redstone was known. |