posted 04-26-2008 10:13 AM
What becomes of all the used Soyuz capsules? They must be stacking up at this point. Are they all on display or put into storage? Just curious...
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 51579 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 04-26-2008 11:10 AM
There are Soyuz on display. Some of the spacecraft flown during Intercosmos missions are now on exhibit in the countries from where their international crew members hailed.
Soyuz 29, onboard Sigmund Jähn flew, is at the Militärhistorisches Museum in Dresden, Germany Deutsches Museum in Munich, Germany (see below).
Soyuz 30, which Miroslaw Hermaszewski flew, is in Warsaw, Poland.
Soyuz T-6, which launched Jean-Loup Chrétien, is on display at the Musee de l'Air in Le Bourget near Paris (where the Paris Air Show is staged).
Soyuz TM-10 is at the National Air and Space Museum in Washington, DC. It was sold at Sotheby's in 1993 for $1.65 million to the Ross Perot Foundation, which in turn loaned it to the museum.
In 2000, Spacehab offered the Soyuz TM-26 descent module for direct sale, and then auctioned it through Superior Galleries. To my knowledge, it failed to meet its reserve.
Unlike in the U.S., where the flown spacecraft are property of the government, the Soyuz belong to its manufacturer, RSC Energia. As such, the company's museum outside Moscow is probably the best place to see multiple Soyuz on display.
The majority of the flown capsules are said to be kept in a Soyuz "junkyard" owned by Energia.
music_space Member
Posts: 1193 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2001
posted 04-26-2008 12:05 PM
In Guantanamo, Cuba, at one corner of the Park for the Revolution, lies an former garage which houses a Soyuz — presumably Soyuz 38 which flew Cuba's Arnaldo Tamayo-Mendez to Salyut 6 in 1980.
As seen by Sylvain Belair, space journalist from Montreal, Qc.
eurospace Member
Posts: 2681 From: Berlin, Germany Registered: Dec 2000
posted 04-26-2008 12:30 PM
quote:Originally posted by Robert Pearlman: Soyuz 29, onboard Sigmund Jähn flew, is at the Militärhistorisches Museum in Dresden, Germany.
Actually, this is no longer correct. Jähn's landing capsule is at the Deutsches Museum für Meisterwerke der Naturwissenschaft and Technik (Deutsches Museum, for short) at Munich.
Also, Vladimir Remek's capsule is at the Museum of Flight in the Prague suburb of Kbely. I went to see it there two years ago.
This leaves the question for the spacecraft of Mongolia, Bulgaria (2), Hungary, India, Slovakia, Syria, Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Romania, and now Malaysia and South Korea.
Anybody knows the location of Dumitru Prunariu's Soyuz 40 spacecraft in Romania?
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 51579 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 04-26-2008 12:56 PM
quote:Originally posted by eurospace: Anybody knows the location of Dumitru Prunariu's Soyuz 40 spacecraft in Romania?
It is on display at the National Military Museum in Bucharest, the Muzeul Militar National (a photo of the display can be seen here).
E2M Lem Man Member
Posts: 846 From: Los Angeles CA. USA Registered: Jan 2005
posted 04-27-2008 05:16 PM
There is a Soyuz, supposedly from an early unmanned flight at Chabot museum outside Oakland, California.
FFrench Member
Posts: 3289 From: San Diego Registered: Feb 2002
posted 04-28-2008 08:19 PM
quote:Originally posted by eurospace: This leaves the question for the spacecraft of Mongolia, Bulgaria (2), Hungary, India, Slovakia, Syria, Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Romania, and now Malaysia and South Korea.
I do, very vaguely, recall on a 1990 visit to India that the spacecraft had been on display in that country but no longer was by then. I found literature referencing its prior display while on that visit.
quote:Originally posted by eurospace: This leaves the question for the spacecraft of Mongolia, Bulgaria (2), Hungary, India, Slovakia, Syria, Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Romania, and now Malaysia and South Korea.
The one of Syria is on display in Damascus, as I heard from another space collector who has been there. I don't know where exactly. And I wouldn't be surprised if the one of Mongolia were on display somewhere in Ulaan Baatar, but I have missed it when I was there 4 years ago.
dom Member
Posts: 1063 From: Registered: Aug 2001
posted 06-11-2008 05:02 PM
The National Space Centre in Leicester, England had a Soyuz return capsule on display.
Although I'm not sure if it was a flown or training version, I seem to remember hearing that it was bought in Georgia just after the break-up of the USSR.
ColinBurgess Member
Posts: 2150 From: Sydney, Australia Registered: Sep 2003
posted 06-11-2008 06:13 PM
I was in Ulaan Baatar this time last year, and the spacecraft is definitely not there. Through locals I sought out anything on this flight and there is a nice display in their National Museum, but it only contains smaller items such as gloves and commemorative patches and such. They are very proud of Gurragcha there, but it is also a very poor country, so they would likely not have the fundng to possess or display a Soyuz craft.
There is a spacesuited statue purporting to be Gurragcha outside of a railway station before you get to Ulaan Baatar, but it is facing away from the platform and you're not permitted to leave the train while in transit. However when you see photos on the 'net of the front of the statue it is merely representative of his space flight, and doesn't resemble him in the slightest.
quote:Originally posted by ColinBurgess: There is a spacesuited statue purporting to be Gurragcha outside of a railway station before you get to Ulaan Baatar, but it is facing away from the platform and you're not permitted to leave the train while in transit.
The one in Choyr, you mean? We had a visa for Mongolia, and the train stopped for long enough at that station, so I was able to get out of the train there to take some pictures of it.
ColinBurgess Member
Posts: 2150 From: Sydney, Australia Registered: Sep 2003
posted 06-13-2008 12:11 AM
Kirsten: different train, different timetable obviously. We only stopped at Choyr for five minutes and the compartment guard would not allow anyone to go any further than three metres from the carriage door, even though he was very impressed that I knew the name of his countryman cosmonaut.
Jay Chladek Member
Posts: 2272 From: Bellevue, NE, USA Registered: Aug 2007
posted 06-17-2008 11:15 AM
For a while, the Kansas Cosmosphere had a Soyuz T training mockup interior on display there in the lobby entrance to the museum. But I haven't seen it in the last few visits I've made there during the past three years. So I don't know if they still have it and it is just not on display or if it has been loaned out to another museum.
Steve Smith Member
Posts: 503 From: Wichita, Kansas, USA Registered: Mar 2002
posted 06-17-2008 12:38 PM
Jay, I hope I'm addressing the same thing you are referencing.
Cosmosphere made a training module for NASA for training in case they had to use the Soyuz for an emergency exit from ISS. It has been returned and is upstairs in the class room just to the left when you walk in.
I went to adult (being an adult is a stretch for me) astronaut camp a few years ago. Our three man crew spent some time in it. I was amazed how uncomfortable and crowded it was. And none of us were big and we weren't wearing bulky suits. It is amazing to me of the mind over matter dedication these people put into to their work. I was stiff that night from 30 minutes in there, let alone three days. And not having to be in peak mode all the time to operate.
eurospace Member
Posts: 2681 From: Berlin, Germany Registered: Dec 2000
posted 07-15-2008 02:34 PM
quote:Originally posted by Robert Pearlman: It is on display at the National Military Museum in Bucharest...
Now back from Romania, I can confirm: the Soyuz 40 return capsule is at the Bucarest Museum of Military History. It's inside the Aviation Pavilion in the courtyard of the museum. When I visited the museum on a Saturday, I found the aviation hall closed, but an instructor teaching young Romanians the use of classical rifles nearby was so kind to look for the lady with the key and they let me in.
The display shows the landing apparatus with the landing parachute deployed. The craft is signed by four cosmonauts.
Nearby, Prunariu's spacesuit is exhibited, and there is a photo wall showing color photos of his training and mission. Everything has the appearance of being unchanged since its arrival in the museum, probably in the very early 80s.
In the main building, the chronological exhibition also shows another important relic of the history of spaceflight: a book by the Austrian artillery captain Conrad Haas showing considerations about the use of rockets and even a concept of multi-stage rockets. Most fascinating...
eurospace Member
Posts: 2681 From: Berlin, Germany Registered: Dec 2000
posted 09-15-2008 04:29 AM
In reply to the question I had asked Dumitru Prunariu about the four signatures on his landing craft, he responds:
The four signatures of cosmonauts on my landing module are from the 10th anniversary of my space flight. The original ones put by me and Popov after the landing were deleted when the module was prepared to be sending to Romania.
There is no direct connection with the national Military Museum you visited and the Aviation museum. Each has its own exposed things.
MrSpace86 Member
Posts: 1630 From: Gardner, KS Registered: Feb 2003
posted 03-29-2011 12:49 PM
quote:Originally posted by music_space: In Guantanamo, Cuba, at one corner of the Park for the Revolution, lies an former garage which houses a Soyuz -- presumably Soyuz 38 which flew Cuba's Arnaldo Tamayo-Mendez to Salyut 6 in 1980.
The Soyuz spacecraft was moved to the Guantanamo Museum to commemorate the 30th anniversary of Arnaldo Tamayo-Mendez' flight. He was born in said city.
His spacesuit is located at the Museum of the Revolution in Havana, Cuba.
Hart Sastrowardoyo Member
Posts: 3469 From: Toms River, NJ Registered: Aug 2000
posted 07-18-2011 02:26 PM
Spaceflight participant Greg Olsen's TMA-6 capsule will starting July 20 be on display at the Market Fair in Princeton, New Jersey until Oct 18, 2011.
Following the capsule's run, it is hoped that the capsule will be displayed on the Intrepid Sea, Air and Space Museum in New York City.
Hart Sastrowardoyo Member
Posts: 3469 From: Toms River, NJ Registered: Aug 2000
posted 07-21-2011 08:46 PM
A set of photos from Olsen's Soyuz TMA-6 capsule can now be seen online. I will be adding commentary where appropriate. One of the neat things is seeing a Saab a few feet away from the capsule, and comparing the two sizes. (For the record: the length of a Soyuz return capsule is just a shade under 2.25 meters, or a little over 7 feet.)
Olsen thought about displaying the capsule at a public school or a university, but realized that it would be get the most public viewing - as well as be indoors - by having it displayed at the Market Fair mall, on Route 1 in Princeton, NJ. (As well, Sensors Unlimited is just about across the street, he said.)
The capsule is on display from now until Oct. 18. Afterward, it is to be displayed at the Intrepid Sea, Air and Space Museum in New York City. It will displayed on the hangar deck (my presumption; Olsen said "flight deck," which is outside) but eventually will be displayed in the same enclosure that will be built to house Enterprise.
Posts: 635 From: Dublin, Ireland Registered: Mar 2011
posted 06-26-2013 02:39 AM
This list was accurate as of early 2013...
Soyuz 7K-OK (Chabot Space & Science Center Oakland/USA)
Soyuz 7K-OK (National Space Centre Leicester/UK)
Soyuz 19 Mock (National Air and Space Museum Washington DC/USA)
Soyuz 28 (Letecké Muzeum Kbely Prague/Czech Republic)
Soyuz 29 (Deutsches Museum Munich/Germany)
Soyuz 30 (Muzeum Polskiej Techniki Wojskowej Warsaw/Poland)
Soyuz 33 (Museum of Aviation Plovdiv Krumovo/Bulgaria)
Soyuz 35 (Közlekedési Múzeum Budapest/Hungary)
Soyuz 36/37? (Vietnamese People's Air Force Museum Hanoi/Vietnam)
Soyuz 38 (Museo Provincial Guantánamo/Cuba)
Soyuz 40 (Muzeul Militar National Bucharest/Romania)
Soyuz T-6 (Musée de l'Air et de l'Espace Le Bourget Paris/France)
Soyuz T-10 (Nehru Planetarium, New Delhi/ India)
Soyuz TM-10 (National Air and Space Museum Washington DC/USA)
Soyuz TMA-6 (Intrepid Sea Air and Space Museum New York/USA)
Soyuz TMA-14 (Museum of Flight Seattle/USA)
APG85 Member
Posts: 313 From: Registered: Jan 2008
posted 05-02-2015 08:14 PM
Any pictures of the Soyuz "junkyard" owned by Energia?
ColinBurgess Member
Posts: 2150 From: Sydney, Australia Registered: Sep 2003
posted 05-10-2015 06:53 AM
Does anyone know the whereabouts of (or fate of) the Soyuz 31 spacecraft in which Valery Bykovsky and Sigmund Jahn flew to Salyut 6? They returned aboard Soyuz 29; Vladimir Kovalyonok and Aleksandr Ivanchenkov brought the Soyuz 31 descent module back to earth.
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 51579 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 02-13-2016 04:41 PM
From Chris Hadfield about Soyuz TMA-07M on Facebook:
Landed my spaceship, lost my spaceship, found my spaceship. It's now shivering in Uglegorsk in the Russian Far East, on outdoor display at the Vostochny Cosmodrome.
MrSpace86 Member
Posts: 1630 From: Gardner, KS Registered: Feb 2003
posted 02-15-2016 06:08 PM
That is crazy. I hope that is just a temporary display but it doesn't seem like it. The spacecraft must have been stripped down to just the shell.
posted 02-15-2016 07:10 PM
That's a shame. Would love to see it on display with Chris's Sokol spacesuit now currently on display at the Canada Air and Space Museum in Ottawa.
Anyone know where the Soyuz TMA-15 that Romanenko, De Winne and Thirsk flew?
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 51579 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 02-15-2016 08:05 PM
quote:Originally posted by MrSpace86: The spacecraft must have been stripped down to just the shell.
Many of the Soyuz spacecraft on display have had their (original) interiors stripped out. From what I understand, the capsules that are displayed with an interior often have mockup equipment.
In the past, Energia has reused some of the components and throughout its history, Russia has been reluctant to have its space technology leave the country.
NeilPearson Member
Posts: 179 From: UK Registered: May 2013
posted 02-16-2016 06:01 AM
In response to a Twitter question about re-using parts, Col. Hadfield replied:
Yes, we re-use lots of the spaceship equipment, especially the complex/expensive parts. Just have to be tested and re-certified.
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 51579 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 09-13-2016 07:22 AM
Soyuz TMA-03M will be going on permanent display at Space Expo in Noordwijk, The Netherlands.
The Soyuz TMA-03M space capsule, which Dutch ESA astronaut André Kuipers made his trip to the International Space Station, will be on public display at Space Expo beginning Tuesday, Sept. 20, 2016.
That capsule's display is thanks to an agreement between the Dutch space organization NSO and the European Space Agency's Moscow Office with the Russian space corporation Energia. The cost of the entire operation, about 450,000 euros, was underwritten by Space Expo and supplemented by sponsors and the Ministry of Economic Affairs.
posted 12-07-2016 10:34 AM
I wish the Canadian Aviation and Space Museum in Ottawa could get its hands on either TMA-07M or TMA-15 spacecraft flown by Hadfield and Thirsk respectively.
SpaceAholic Member
Posts: 5311 From: Sierra Vista, Arizona Registered: Nov 1999
posted 01-21-2017 11:34 PM
quote:Originally posted by APG85: Any pictures of the Soyuz "junkyard" owned by Energia?
Surreal to be ESA and stand next to the actual spacecraft that carried me and one of my best friends home - Miss flying with you Alex Gerst.
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 51579 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 12-28-2023 05:10 PM
The Soyuz MS-20 descent capsule, along with its parachute and the Sokol spacesuit worn by Japanese spaceflight participant Yusaku Maezawa is now on temporary display in the atrium of the Tokyo Midtown Hibiya building.
The exhibit, which opened on Dec. 26 and runs through Dec. 30, is timed with the Dec. 29, premiere of the documentary "The Reason I Went to Space," which follows Maezawa's flight to the International Space Station.
posted 04-26-2008 10:13 AM
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