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Topic: Houston, ALTAIR has landed!
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Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 50516 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 12-13-2007 01:28 PM
As of today, NASA's Lunar Surface Access Module (LSAM, the new lunar lander) is to be referred to as Altair. The new name and logo were revealed to members of the aerospace industry during a briefing still underway at Johnson Space Center. According to Lauri Hansen, NASA's lunar lander project manager, "Altair is the brightest star in the constellation Aquila and is the twelfth brightest star in the night sky. The word "Altair" finds its origins in Arabic and is derived from a phrase that means 'the flying one'. "In Latin, "Aquila" means Eagle, tying our new lander to the historic Apollo 11 Eagle," Hansen wrote in an email obtained by collectSPACE.com. |
kimmern123 Member Posts: 83 From: Norway Registered: Dec 2006
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posted 12-13-2007 01:53 PM
What a great name! Tying it to Eagle as well I think is a wonderful thing to do. The meaning of the name also fits very well with Altair's purpose. Now all we have to wait for is for the actual hardware to be made. I guess that's still several years away though... |
KSCartist Member Posts: 3047 From: Titusville, FL Registered: Feb 2005
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posted 12-13-2007 02:29 PM
While I think the name is very appropriate and I can surely understand why they would want to tie it to the LM on Apollo 11, I wish they had done a better job of illustrating the Eagle on the logo.It's simply an Apollo 11 patch in reverse and the illustration is almost "child-like." But maybe that's what they intended since today's kids are tomorrows explorers. Tim |
ShuttleDiscovery Member Posts: 152 From: Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 12-13-2007 02:58 PM
The patch maches the Constellation, Orion and Ares ones (triangles). I hope an embroidered version comes out soon!Is there a hi-res version of the patch? |
onesmallstep Member Posts: 1410 From: Staten Island, New York USA Registered: Nov 2007
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posted 12-13-2007 03:14 PM
Very nice and elegant design, with both the eagle and the letter script echoing Apollo. I guess with both the CEV (Orion) and LSAM (Altair) both having names now, they will dispense with crew-given names for each, as was done in Apollo. -Al |
NavySpaceFan Member Posts: 663 From: Norfolk, VA Registered: May 2007
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posted 12-13-2007 04:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by onesmallstep: I guess with both the CEV (Orion) and LSAM (Altair) both having names now, they will dispense with crew-given names for each, as was done in Apollo.
I think that the crews will still have individual call signs for their spacecraft, makes the mission more personal. |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 50516 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 12-13-2007 05:49 PM
More details and quotes from today: NASA names next-gen lunar lander Altair quote: Move over Eagle, the Altair has landed.
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cspg Member Posts: 6347 From: Geneva, Switzerland Registered: May 2006
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posted 12-14-2007 12:38 AM
How do you pronounce it? In French, it would "alta-eer" but in English?Chris. |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 50516 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 12-14-2007 08:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by cspg: How do you pronounce it?
When Jeff Hanley said the name at yesterday's industry meeting, it was pronounced, 'al-tare'. |
Mr Meek Member Posts: 353 From: Chattanooga, TN Registered: Dec 2007
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posted 12-14-2007 08:44 AM
quote: All four insignias, including the Constellation and Altair logos, were designed for NASA by Michael Okuda, who may be best known for his work on the Star Trek series.
Surely I'm not alone in thinking that's yet another cool link between NASA and everyone's favorite pseudoscience fiction franchise. ...Just as long as the ships don't have any inscrutable LCARS displays with the magical X/Y pad that does EVERYTHING! |
jimsz Member Posts: 644 From: Registered: Aug 2006
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posted 12-14-2007 09:36 AM
I like the concept but the image is really done poorly.They certainly could have created a more professional looking presentation design that what they have. |
Choose2Go Member Posts: 73 From: Merritt Island, FL, USA Registered: Feb 2004
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posted 12-14-2007 09:42 AM
quote: All four insignias, including the Constellation and Altair logos, were designed for NASA by Michael Okuda, who may be best known for his work on the Star Trek series.
Mike credits his interest in space art and design to a NASA Spacemobile education program he attended while in grade school. This shows the benefit of investing in education. You never know how you may effect a child or influence their future. Good job, Mike! |
cspg Member Posts: 6347 From: Geneva, Switzerland Registered: May 2006
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posted 12-14-2007 10:25 AM
The name Altair is also referenced in the movie Forbidden Planet, which I like very much.Anybody has come up with (silly) acronym(s) for ALTAIR? Chris. |
tegwilym Member Posts: 2339 From: Sturgeon Bay, WI Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 12-14-2007 11:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by ShuttleDiscovery: The patch maches the Constellation, Orion and Ares ones
All the patches have 10 stars. What do those refer to? |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 50516 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 12-14-2007 11:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by tegwilym: All the patches have 10 stars. What do those refer to?
As mentioned in our above linked article: quote: Like the patches for the other initiatives, the Altair insignia includes 10 stars in its background, a symbol previously attributed to each of the 10 NASA nationwide centers working to return astronauts to the Moon.
The pattern of the stars in the Altair logo form the constellation Aquila, with the bright (larger) star referencing the location of Atlair. |
onesmallstep Member Posts: 1410 From: Staten Island, New York USA Registered: Nov 2007
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posted 12-14-2007 12:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by cspg: Anybody has come up with (silly) acronym(s) for ALTAIR?
How about: Advanced Lunar Transport and Astronaut Intravehicular Restroom?-Al |
Hart Sastrowardoyo Member Posts: 3466 From: Toms River, NJ Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 12-14-2007 03:04 PM
ALTAIR: American Lunar Thingee Aimed (at) Impact, Return. |
eurospace Member Posts: 2673 From: Berlin, Germany Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 12-15-2007 04:27 PM
Just as NASA needed the Germans to take their rockets to go to the Moon, they now need the French to invent names: Altair was the designation of Jean-Pierre Haigneré's first mission to space station MIR in 1993. ------------------ Jürgen P Esders Berlin, Germany International Director (Europe), Space Unit Vice President, Weltraum Philatelie e. V. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Astroaddies |
art540 Member Posts: 432 From: Orange, California USA Registered: Sep 2006
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posted 12-15-2007 04:49 PM
Altair is a very prominent star in the summer skies and much better known than any aerospace mission or vehicle... |
tegwilym Member Posts: 2339 From: Sturgeon Bay, WI Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 12-15-2007 07:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by Robert Pearlman: Like the patches for the other initiatives, the Altair insignia includes 10 stars in its background, a symbol previously attributed to each of the 10 NASA nationwide centers working to return astronauts to the Moon.
Ah! Thanks Robert. I guess I read that article too fast and went right past that. Oops.Tom |
John Youskauskas Member Posts: 126 From: Registered: Jan 2004
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posted 12-17-2007 09:55 AM
I was trying to figure this out when I first looked at the patch, and actually counted 11 stars, including the one in the "A". I assumed this was a reference to Apollo 11 as well as the eagle. |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 50516 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 12-22-2007 11:10 AM
NASA added the Altair announcement to its website on Dec. 18: NASA Chooses "Altair" as Name for Astronauts' Lunar LanderNot many (if any) new details (and the logo is still absent from their site) but there are a few new hi-res images of Altair docked with Orion and on the Moon. |