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Topic: Project Constellation vs. Project Orion
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sfurtaw
Member Posts: 108
From: Saginaw, MI USA
Registered: Feb 2004
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posted 07-21-2006 10:06 AM
   
Can someone explain the difference between the titles Project Constellation and Project Orion? Thanks.
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Scott Furtaw
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Robert Pearlman
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From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 07-21-2006 10:12 AM
To the best of my understanding, Constellation is meant to be the umbrella program under which Orion, Ares, etc. fall under.The intention appears to be that like Apollo, when Apollo Command Modules launched the crew, so will Orion and Orion Command Modules (the vehicles now-but-soon-to-be-formerly known as Crew Exploration Vehicles). At the same time, Constellation might be overseeing/ planning/ drafting other projects... |
mikepf
Member Posts: 448
From: San Jose, California, USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 07-21-2006 10:47 AM
"(the vehicles now-but-soon-to-be-formerly known as Crew Exploration Vehicles)"
Ha!! I love sentences like this. Reminds me of the bit from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy about the difficulties of time traveler grammar.
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KSCartist
Member Posts: 3047
From: Titusville, FL
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted 07-21-2006 01:51 PM
Scott-Also the vehicle(s) which will take humans to Mars might be derived from Orion CSM /LM's but they will be a generation newer and with enough upgrades to be named something else. Looking forward to the launch of Orion 1. Tim |
collocation
Member Posts: 387
From: McLean, VA
Registered: Feb 2004
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posted 07-21-2006 08:05 PM
Was Orion the name of the nuclear spacecraft program from the 50-60's, I may be mistaken |
rjurek349
Member Posts: 1223
From: Northwest Indiana
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted 07-21-2006 09:41 PM
Orion was also the name from the 60's German tv show called "Raumpatrouille Orion," which was a classic. |
Rodina
Member Posts: 836
From: Lafayette, CA
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 07-22-2006 02:00 PM
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Originally posted by collocation:
Was Orion the name of the nuclear spacecraft program from the 50-60's, I may be mistaken
Indeed. Not just nuclear powered, but atomic bomb powered. Freemon Dyson worked on it at General Atomics in San Diego and his son wrote an interesting book on the subject. Although if you want a good feel for what could have been, the space battle in the last 100 pages of Niven and Pournelle's "Footfall" - in which an Orion spacecraft (with the four orbiters strapped to its side as secondary craft) goes after the alien badguys. Very cool.
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collocation
Member Posts: 387
From: McLean, VA
Registered: Feb 2004
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posted 07-22-2006 02:07 PM
Thanks, I have seen the book many times at the bookstore and it is on my list to read. Do you know of any websites that may have additional info on the Orion spacecraft project, I will try google |
cspg
Member Posts: 6347
From: Geneva, Switzerland
Registered: May 2006
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posted 07-26-2006 03:54 AM
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Originally posted by sfurtaw:
Can someone explain the difference between the titles Project Constellation and Project Orion?
I don't know where NASA got Orion from but they published a book entitled: PROJECT ORION: A Design Study of a System for Detecting Extrasolar Planets.
it's available at: http://history.nasa.gov/SP-436/sp436.htm And no, I'm not mentionning this because I've placed it online! I was just wondering if there was any relationship... Chris. [This message has been edited by collectSPACE Admin (edited July 26, 2006).] |
Naraht
Member Posts: 232
From: Oxford, UK
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted 07-26-2006 04:49 AM
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Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
The intention appears to be that like Apollo, when Apollo Command Modules launched the crew, so will Orion and Orion Command Modules (the vehicles now-but-soon-to-be-formerly known as Crew Exploration Vehicles).
Wouldn't they still be known as Orion CEVs, rather than Orion CMs? Or have I got that wrong?(Personally I would much rather still have CMs and LMs, but then, I don't have much pull at NASA...)
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Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 50516
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 07-26-2006 07:36 AM
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Originally posted by Naraht:
Wouldn't they still be known as Orion CEVs, rather than Orion CMs? Or have I got that wrong?
Perhaps, but both the federal trademark filing and the information I received from sources close to NASA both specifically used the term "command module" when describing the use of name Orion. |
Naraht
Member Posts: 232
From: Oxford, UK
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted 07-26-2006 08:29 AM
Ah, that's interesting to know. Thanks.  |
Blackarrow
Member Posts: 3604
From: Belfast, United Kingdom
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 08-30-2006 08:26 PM
For the benefit of younger readers, "Orion" was also the name of the Apollo 16 lunar module which took John Young and Charlie Duke to the Moon in April, 1972. I wonder what they think of the name..... |
LCDR Scott Schneeweis
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posted 08-31-2006 12:23 AM
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Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
To the best of my understanding, Constellation is meant to be the umbrella program under which Orion, Ares, etc. fall under.
In which case maybe its better to retitle this Forum CONSTELLATION....
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Scott Schneeweis
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Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 50516
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 08-31-2006 12:28 AM
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Originally posted by LCDR Scott Schneeweis:
In which case maybe its better to retitle this Forum CONSTELLATION....
I had considered that, but to stay consistent with other forums (such as Mercury - Gemini - Apollo), I decided to go with the project name. |
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