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posted 07-21-2023 08:00 AM
   
Can anyone here help identify the four unknowns in this Mission Operations Control Room (MOCR) group photo? This is believed to be Apollo 10 Shift 1 (Glynn Lunney's Black Team).If any of the existing names or roles are wrong please let me know and I'll correct them. Photo scan courtesy of Bruce McCandless III.  |
Buel
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posted 07-21-2023 10:12 AM
I’ve asked a few contacts… |
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posted 07-21-2023 10:12 AM
Possible candidates for the unknowns: - Gary E. Coen - CSM/GNC
- William Clint Burton - CSM EECOM
- Jay Greene - FIDO
- Chuck Deiterich - RETRO
- Gran Paules - GUIDO
- Steve Bales - GUIDO
- Frank Van Rensselaer - BSE-1
- William Harris - BSE-2
- James Park - BSE-3
- John Wegener - LM CONTROL
- Walter Merlin Merritt - LM TELECOM
- Tim White - LM EMU
- James Saultz - LM EMU
- William Royce Hawkins - SURGEON
- Honeycutt - SIMSUP
- Heinz (AF) - SIM COORD
- Ojalehto - NETWORK
- William C. Young - NETWORK
- William M. Anderson - FLT ACR OFF
- John Riley - PAO
- Brian Duff - PAO ASST
- Andrew R. (Pat) Patnesky - PHOTO
- Scott Simpkinson - SPAN
- Aaron Cohen - SPAN
- Neil Hutchinson - FCD-CSM
- Don Puddy - FCD-LM
- Ronald Kubicki - MSE
- Don Arabian - BLDG 45
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posted 07-21-2023 02:07 PM
Possible match for "Unknown 3". John (Jack) Riley, Public Affairs Officer (PAO).Photo on the right was identified as Jack Riley by Sy Liebergot.  |
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posted 07-21-2023 02:21 PM
Possible match for "Unknown 1" - William M. Anderson - Flight Activities Officer (FAO).Photo on the right from obituaries.  |
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posted 07-22-2023 06:26 AM
Apart from confirming the proposed identifications above, I'm still trying to identify there two. Their names are likely to be in the list above (although this is not guaranteed). |
Buel
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posted 07-22-2023 12:22 PM
Jerry Bostick doesn’t know but I’m waiting on a few others. |
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posted 07-23-2023 04:44 AM
Thanks. Even if they don't recognize the unknowns it would be nice if they could confirm the names and roles of those already identified. |
Buel
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posted 07-23-2023 11:08 AM
Apollo PAO Doug Ward says; Unknown 2 is Bill Johnson, technical assistant to the PAO commentator. Bill was employed by AV Services Corp. a contractor to the Public Affairs Office. Unknown 3 is Jack Riley, PAO commentator. |
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posted 07-23-2023 11:29 AM
I found a thread for a similar photo (for Apollo 7). If the identification in that photo is correct, then, perhaps, given similar facial features and the radical fashion choice for the time (NO TIE!!), "Unknown 2" may be Neil Hutchinson (#8 in the Apollo 7 photo). Comparing the 2 photos, "Unknown 4" form the Apollo 10 photo may be either #3 or#13 from the Apollo 7 photo. |
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posted 07-23-2023 11:34 AM
Thanks for the id on Bill Johnson, and confirmation of Jack Riley's id. I'm also going with my identification of William M. Anderson as "Unknown 1" - the face is just a perfect match.That leaves "Unknown 4" as the only missing id...  |
Buel
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posted 07-23-2023 12:35 PM
Shall I ask Neil Hutchinson? |
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posted 07-23-2023 12:59 PM
That would be great. And if he could check the other ids too. |
Buel
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posted 07-26-2023 03:32 PM
Update from Gerry Griffin: I can't give you all of the unknowns, but I can name one. The others weren't "prime guys" in the MOCR so their names escape me. Also, two people are identified incorrectly... I'll point those out too! - Unknown 3 is Jack Riley, PAO (Public Affairs Officer)
- Gary Renick is in error, that is a young John Aaron, EECOM
- John Zieglschmid is in error, that is Willard Hawkins, Surgeon
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posted 07-27-2023 04:32 AM
Thanks for getting this feedback.The surgeon being Willard Hawkins rather than Dr Z makes sense as that matches the records too. "Gary Renick" actually being a young John Aaron? That does look about right and Renick was not on the Apollo 10 Shift 1 list as GUIDO. On the other hand, John Aaron is listed as the EECOM for Windler's team, with Clint Burton as EECOM on Lunney's team, but I'm sure it's possible people were switched between shifts. |
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posted 07-27-2023 04:37 AM
Here's an update to the annotated photo: |
Andy Anderson
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posted 07-27-2023 08:15 PM
Sy Liebergot helped me identify some MOCR personnel some time ago and there are couple of possibilities - GUIDO's, Ray Teague and although not on the official pre-launch Apollo 10 manning list, maybe Will Presley. Ray can be just seen in the right background in this A13 MOCR image.  |
MOL
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posted 07-29-2023 05:00 PM
I am updating my earlier post - thanks to the fellow members of the “Manned Space Operations” Alumni group, I can now say for certain the “unknown” in your photo is a man named Raymond Teague. He was an Air Force civilian assigned to Flight Dynamics and for Apollo 10 he was GUIDO in the MOCR. |
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posted 07-30-2023 12:44 PM
I think you've both got it — Ray Teague. I can only find one decent photo but it's a really good match.The list above has him as a GUIDO on Windler's team rather than Lunney's but the same is true for Aaron. I'm sure some people were switched between shifts.  |
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posted 07-30-2023 01:00 PM
I'm hoping to get a high quality scan of the original group photo from Bruce McCandless III, at which point I will post a 'final' annotated version for everyone's reference. |
Andy Anderson
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posted 07-30-2023 08:30 PM
I have this copy of image S69-38986 (7.8 mb file). If Bruce cannot help you, email me and I will send it to you if it is of use. |
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posted 07-31-2023 04:16 AM
Andy - That's a perfect image. I'm waiting to see what Bruce comes back with but I may ask you to send me your version anyway, if you don't mind sharing. |
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