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Topic: [Regency-Superior] Space Auction (June 2015)
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Jared_5714
Member Posts: 10
From: St. Louis, MO, United States
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted 04-14-2015 12:45 PM
   
Regency-Superior proudly presents its June 2015 Space & Collectibles Public Auction. 479 lots will go up on the auction block on Wednesday, June 3, 2015. The auction will be held live on the internet beginning at 11 a.m. (Central Time) at RegencySuperior.com. Medals continue to be some of the more choice items in our space auctions. Ed White's NASA "Distinguished Service Medal" and Service Medal Certificate is true rarity. This is the highest commendation that is awarded by NASA. The award was given to Ed White in honor of his contributions to the Gemini 4 mission.  Another highlight from this auction is Lot 109, carried on board the Gemini 5 Mission, used and annotated by both mission commander Gordon Cooper and pilot Pete Conrad (and previously owned by Conrad). Checklist consists of 19 double-sided heavy card stock pages bound by a single metal ring, numbered 'CF55047-2 S/N 51.' Most of the checklist pages were annotated by Conrad himself during the actual space voyage. Among the procedures included in the checklist are 'Mode II Abort, Insertion Checklist' (filled in and notated by Cooper); 'Power Up Check list'; and post-landing and water egress checklists, with one page notated, 'Remove shirt sleeves, Dollar Bills, PPKs, Log Book, Flight Plan, Re-Entry Book.' Signed on the reverse of the last page, 'Gordon Cooper, Gemini 5 CDR.'  If it's autographs that you're looking for, we've got several from which to choose. Lot 132 is a hardbound First Edition of 'First on the Moon' signed on the title page by Armstrong, Aldrin & Collins. Book is inscribed 'To Bill and Dailyn - with good wishes from Apollo Eleven.' Aldrin and Collins both signed in black felt-tip pen, Armstrong in blue ballpoint.  Lot 315 is another high quality item. The Yaw Thrusters-Engines Holder used on the 7th Soyuz flight to International Space Station. Engines Holder is part of the Soyuz spacecraft Thermal Control Protection System, essential to the protection of the craft & crew during reentry. The entire auction is now available online for viewing and bidding (absentee and Live bidding) at RegencySuperior.com. Free color catalogs are available by calling toll-free 1-800-782-0066. For specific questions regarding this space auction, please contact Alan Lipkin. Good luck with your bidding! |
tnperri
Member Posts: 452
From: Malvern, Ohio
Registered: Jun 2011
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posted 04-14-2015 03:23 PM
Looks like a lot of unflown Robbins medals in this auction. |
Mercurypgm
Member Posts: 292
From: Houston, Tx
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 04-18-2015 10:05 AM
I am glad about the Robbins as I have been trying to complete a set and there are some I am in need of. Very happy... |
Mercurypgm
Member Posts: 292
From: Houston, Tx
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 04-19-2015 08:04 AM
I am 99.9% sure that lots 374, 376, 379 which are the Chaffee, Williams and Bassett signed lithos are autopens. Can someone confirm this?I believe the two Elliot See autographs that are in this same grouping are okay. Yes? No? |
stsmithva
Member Posts: 1933
From: Fairfax, VA, USA
Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 04-19-2015 08:25 AM
I agree about the three autopens. The Bassett one is especially obvious. |
Mercurypgm
Member Posts: 292
From: Houston, Tx
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 04-19-2015 08:53 AM
Thanks, now I am 100% sure.Please check lot 372 (Shepard) as it has the look and feel of an autopen though I can't find a pattern. Opinions as I am not sure what to think. Also, the Ed White in lot 371 is (despite being from the Smithsonian) 99.9 percent an autopen in my opinion. Others in that lot are described, in part, as autopens and I think this one should join them. Opinions? Lot 324 is interesting and I am not sure what to make of it. Dobrovolsky is one of the rarest of all signatures (most consider the crew signed items that appear from time to be forgeries) but is this an authentic example? Need help on this one, please. |
Steve Zarelli
Member Posts: 731
From: Upstate New York, USA
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 04-19-2015 10:23 AM
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Originally posted by Mercurypgm:
Also, the Ed White in lot 371 is (despite being from the Smithsonian) 99.9 percent an autopen in my opinion.
Lot 371 is identical to lot 103. Also Ed White lots 102 and 105 bear the same slow and shaky look. I suspect they are all autopens. Some may be slightly distorted, so they are not truly identical, but autopens none-the-less. |
spaced out
Member Posts: 3110
From: Paris, France
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 04-19-2015 10:24 AM
I did send a mail to Regency to point out some autopens but since it's been raised here I'll list those I spotted: - 102 - White autopen
- 103 - White autopen
- 105 - White autopen
- 112 - Lovell autopen
- 134 - Aldrin autopen and suspect Collins and Armstrong (in my opinion)
- 371 - White autopen (I had assumed the whole lot was listed as autopens but I now see this one was noted as genuine)
- 372 - Shepard secretarial
- 374 - Chaffee autopen
- 376 - Williams autopen
- 379 - Bassett autopen
I didn't look through all lots so there may be others but there are certainly plenty of genuine autographs in the auction. |
Steve Zarelli
Member Posts: 731
From: Upstate New York, USA
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 04-19-2015 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by Mercurypgm:
Lot 324 is interesting and I am not sure what to make of it.
How much are you willing to make a leap of faith?According to tradition, his signature should not exist except on official documents or personal papers. Yet here we have perhaps the rarest space autograph carefully and neatly applied to a postal cover commemorating the periodic table. |
Steve Zarelli
Member Posts: 731
From: Upstate New York, USA
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 04-19-2015 10:35 AM
Interesting "crowd sourcing" approach to authentication. |
Mercurypgm
Member Posts: 292
From: Houston, Tx
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 04-19-2015 04:54 PM
It has to be a group effort. Online I usually just look at 100 items per page until I see something that interests me. Then I look closer. I will call Regency-Superior on Monday and I am sure they will pull the questionable items.They have always treated me kindly and perhaps that is why I look at their stuff more closely and speak up as I have items consigned with them and I don't want to see my items obtained over a life time mixed in with autopens, etc. Enough said. Hard to believe I got my first space item signed in 1961 by Robert White (X-15) and I still have it. "To Dick and The Astronaut Fan Club" lol. |
Mercurypgm
Member Posts: 292
From: Houston, Tx
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 04-20-2015 09:17 AM
I called them first thing Monday AM and the list will be turned over to one of the gentlemen in their office by the name of Wayne who will double check the items. I feel that the Dobrovolsky will probably stay (a guess on my part) and I am not sure how they will handle the Ed White that is shown as real but isn't but mixed in with a batch of hopefully real (since we can't see them) and autopens (Smithsonian). Later. |
Mercurypgm
Member Posts: 292
From: Houston, Tx
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 04-20-2015 07:20 PM
Wayne responded by an email. Though he spent a good deal of time looking at the above items, he will wait for Alan Lipkin, who is on vacation until May 6th, to make some further calls.A couple of items were withdrawn but we seem to disagree on numerous obvious autopens (Chaffee and Bassett and some of White) and the Shepard secretary signature (he can't find a pattern... AAAHHH!!!). Whatever will be will be. Buyer Beware. Plenty of other good items so that is where my money will go. Hopefully Alan will make some better calls. Perhaps instant replay and umpire meetings are needed. lol |
ptj4403
Member Posts: 28
From: Noblesville, Indiana, USA
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted 04-21-2015 07:53 AM
Question to anyone: Has anybody ever seen "Gus" Grissom misspell his name as "Gin" when he has signed anything? Myself, I have never seen him do this, yet Regency-Superior is saying this is a legitimate signature. |
Mercurypgm
Member Posts: 292
From: Houston, Tx
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 04-21-2015 10:01 AM
Actually if you look at the blow up very carefully that is not an "i" but the first part of the "u". Then you see the upstroke of the "u" almost combined with the "s". At first glance it looks like GIN, but when you look at it very closely and magnified it does say Gus. Personally I think it is good, but it will always be questioned unless you see it blown up. There are obviously better examples. His handwriting at best was terrible as I have several hand written letters and he would not have passed English 101. Just an opinion and no, I did not consign it. lol |
ptj4403
Member Posts: 28
From: Noblesville, Indiana, USA
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted 04-21-2015 01:26 PM
I will have to strongly disagree with you; if you look how he signed his last name you will see when he makes his "s" in his last name there is a small loop in them. Then if you look further in his last name how he makes the "m" with the humps and the sharp point at the bottom of each hump is very similar to the "n" in the "gin". This puts the strong suggestion it is a poor forgery. With over 45 years of collect artifacts and astronaut autographs, this one sticks out like a sore thumb. (By him I mean whoever made the signature but do not suggest that it is Gus's signature.) |
Mercurypgm
Member Posts: 292
From: Houston, Tx
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 04-23-2015 03:53 PM
I got my first space signature in 1961 at age 10 so I am not exactly a rookie.It may be good, it may be a forgery. In my opinion it is too close to call. On a worthless cover if a forger messed up the Gus, he would toss it in the trash, not continue the signature. There is enough doubt that I wouldn't touch it, but the best thing to do is for you and others to call Regency Superior and express your opinion. They may pull it, they may not. Same on the autopens. I brought to their attention all the autopens discussed here but with Alan Lipkin on vacation one of their staff, Wayne, pulled a couple but wanted Alan to look at some of the others before possibly withdrawing them. Call them at 314-361-5699 and if enough people call them and point out questionable items and autopens, the better. Opinions can be expressed but you can't force them to remove any item. Buyer beware... |
Dennis Beatty
Member Posts: 356
From:
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 06-04-2015 06:24 PM
Any ideas as to why the STS mission Robbins medallions were bid up so high? |
cycleroadie
Member Posts: 452
From: Apalachin, NY USA
Registered: May 2011
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posted 06-05-2015 06:35 AM
I was puzzled about an advertised opening bid being changed when the item went live, saw one go up 500% and a number of others almost as much. |
The Great Frontier
New Member Posts: 8
From: Ocala, Florida
Registered: Apr 2015
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posted 06-05-2015 07:39 AM
The prices for all unflown Robbins jumped up to $1000 so quickly, with several going for over $2,000. It looked like there was at least one internet and one floor bidder going at it. Strange auction, great for the seller. |
Penney Kols
Member Posts: 38
From: saint louis mo usa
Registered: Sep 2008
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posted 06-06-2015 04:17 PM
Thank you to all the collectors who bid in our June 3rd auction. We were just as surprised and, of course, delighted to see the bidding that was taking place on the Robbins medallions. It only takes two bidders who are interested on an item to make the prices go up. During the auction, we had three bidders participating 'live' via internet and telephone for these medallions, plus some who left absentee bids.A month before the auction, we posted this auction ‘live’ on Invaluable.com, eBay(live), AuctionZip.com, LeFigaro – as well as our own website. There were many instances where our opening bid shot up by the competitive & absentee bidding occurring on these other websites. Advertised opening bids are set when the auction catalog goes to the printer eight weeks prior to the sale. Those lower (advertised) openings disappear the moment an absentee bid is placed. Please visit our website starting Sunday evening, June 7th to view the unsold auction lots. We will have them posted for two weeks, through June 21st. You may purchase any unsold lot at the consignor’s reserve price (+20% BP). Thank you!
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