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Topic: Regency-Superior April 22 Space Sale
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Robert Pearlman
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posted 03-18-2006 01:52 AM
   
Regency-Superior release quote:
Regency-Superior will conduct a three-day Public Auction at their gallery in Beverly Hills, CA from April 21st - 23rd. The April 22nd session will begin with over 650 Space lots ranging from prior to the Mercury Program through the ISS to Space Covers and Stamps. The other Auction Sessions will contain everything from Regency-Superior's usual Stamps and Covers to Elvis Presley Memorabilia and other Collectables. The Space session begins at 10am April 22nd and will have both a live floor at the Gallery (9478 W. Olympic Blvd., 2nd Floor) and will be held on the internet through eBay Live Auctions.A highlight of the sale is a 1969 Apollo 11 Flown Translation Control Handle. Estimated at $75,000, it was used by the astronauts as a means of accelerating the spacecraft in either direction along any of the three axes. This Translation Control Handle is THE ONLY ONE that the consignor was given over 30 ears ago. It has a Rockwell tag, which provides the pedigree. This is a unique opportunity to own a piece of history that helped steer the spacecraft that flew man to the lunar surface for the first time in human history. Two of the most exciting pieces from the Space session are two flown Hasselblad cameras, both a 1970 'Flight Ready El 35mm' and a 'Reflex' Training Camera. Since NASA assembled these cameras out of the used parts from previous Apollo flights, there is an unknown but definitely finite number of these flown cameras making them extremely rare and desireable. We have estimated their value from $7,500 to $15,000. Flown items from the Apollo/Soyuz mission including mission patches, name tag, flag, equipment and numerous checklists are incluced with estimates ranging from $1,500 to $35,000+. An additional section of Wernher von Braun hand notated documents from Huntsville, AL also will whet your appetite. Another highlight is a 1969 Flown United States Flag that traveled to the moon on Apollo 11. This flag (6"x4") is mounted on a wooden presentation plaque (12"x10.5"x1") with a display label reading: "This flag traveled to the Moon aboard Apollo 11, the first manned lunar landing. July 16-24, 1969". Included on the plaque below the flag are a Crew Patch and a small metal lunar plaque. The latter has a caption that reads: "This photo etched plate is an exact duplicate, made from the same negative, as the LEM Leg plaque". The auction will be held in the Gallery of Regency Superior's Beverly Hills Office, 9478 W. Olympic Blvd, 2nd Floor at 10am. You can sign up for live internet bidding through eBay live auctions at www.ebayliveauctions.com . Space viewing is available through the start of the auction at the Beverly Hills Gallery, while Stamp viewing will be at the St. Louis office (229 N. Euclid Ave, St. Louis, MO) through April 15th, and move to Beverly Hills on April 19th. The entire auction is available online for viewing and bidding at www.RegencySuperior.com , and includes full lot descriptions, estimates, color photographs and opening bids. To receive an auction catalog, please call Regency-Superior at (800) 782-0066; Fax (314) 361-5677; or write to Regency-Superior, 229 N. Euclid Avenue, St. Louis, MO 63108.
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mjanovec
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posted 03-18-2006 12:05 PM
Does Lot 790 raise any red flags (or hooks)? |
Scott
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posted 03-18-2006 01:29 PM
You are correct this is a hooktail Armstrong forgery. |
micropooz
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posted 03-24-2006 05:25 PM
Just got my catalog in the mail. Nice array of covers this time around!One problem though - if any of you are looking at Lot 735 (Gemini-MOL LaSalle cover) beware - it is postmarked thirteen days after the recovery. [This message has been edited by micropooz (edited March 24, 2006).] |
Alan Lipkin
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posted 03-28-2006 04:56 PM
Lot 790 was withdrawn from the sale last week
I blew that one myself!
A correction went in on the Gemini MOL lot which will be posted on Ebay and our website on the lot indicating that the cover was cancelled 13 days after the flight.
Thanks for the info...we appreciate the input.
Alan |
micropooz
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posted 03-28-2006 06:44 PM
And thanks for being so upfront about the corrections, Alan! That's appreciated too. |
spaceflori
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posted 04-18-2006 02:12 PM
As the consignor of Lot 735 - the LaSalle cover from MOL let me add that the cover was described accurately by myself to Superior as cancelled the DAY of RETURN to Cape Canaveral harbor.This cover is listed at 250 cat value in the Fuchs catalog vs. 600 for the recovery cancelled cover and is a rarity in itself. Florian [This message has been edited by spaceflori (edited April 18, 2006).] |
spaceflori
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posted 04-18-2006 02:17 PM
The Fuchs catalog is the 1972 edition, unfortunately there aren't any newer ones, but it still one of the most details space cover catalogs available.Florian |
hammer&feather
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posted 04-20-2006 02:34 AM
Hi,
This auction sale is offering a nice assortment of space material and I have set my eyes on one particular item. The good thing about Regency-Superior is that they accept paypal. The Aurora Auction house is not accepting paypal and that is in my opinion not a smart move as this certainly means that interested bidders avoid to participate in their live auction.
I prefer Regency-Superior not just for this paypal issue but for many other reasons too. The staff of Superior is really superior and most helpful. Good luck to all bidders and may you win the items you desire.
Andy[This message has been edited by hammer&feather (edited April 20, 2006).] |
p.kentzinger
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posted 04-20-2006 02:54 AM
I agree totaly with Andy
For europeans bidders Paypal is fine.
I always have many difficulties to transfer money to Swann or Aurora.
I find the Regency items "superior" than the other Auctions houses.Good luck for saturday. ------------------
Pascal.
pascal.kentzinger@wanadoo.fr [This message has been edited by p.kentzinger (edited April 20, 2006).] |
mensclub10@aol.com
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posted 04-20-2006 07:33 AM
"Payment can be made by Cash, Check, Money Order or major Credit Card (at no additional cost)". This is according to their terms of sale on their website. Am I missing their acceptance of PayPal or are you implying that major credit cards is the same as PayPal?
Dave
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posted 04-20-2006 07:36 AM
One more question. Is the last possible chance to bid on the Space portion of their auction end on Saturday at 9:00 AM PST? If so, is that 10:00 AM or 11:00 AM in Central time?Dave |
hammer&feather
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posted 04-20-2006 12:31 PM
Hello Dave,
I checked Regency Superior payment options.
If you go to this auction Item number 6618618029 then you see following under payment:
"PAYMENT can be made by PayPal, Check, Money Order or major Credit Card (at no additional cost). Successful bidders who pay by Credit Card shall have their lots forwarded immediately; all others will be invoiced, and must remit full payment within 7 days. Lots will not be sent without full payment. Please allow 10 days for processing and mailing of lots."To absolutely verify this I would call on Alan Lipkin. Please Mr. Lipkin can you confirm that paypal is accepted. I don't know where Dave got his Regency Superior payment options but all Superior auctions I looked at offered Paypal as form of payment accepted. I wonder if Aurora and Victoria Campbell is thinking over their no paypal policy. It would make payments easier for all.
Dave I believe Central Time is 2 hours ahead of Pacific Time.
Thanks Andy [This message has been edited by hammer&feather (edited April 20, 2006).] |
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posted 04-21-2006 09:30 PM
NOW I'M REALLY MIXED UP. NOW IT SAYS ON THEIR WEBSITE THAT INTERNET BIDDING ON THE SPACE AUCTION ENDS AT 10:00 AM CENTRAL TIME ON SUNDAY APRIL 23rd.When is the correct end of internet bidding on the Space Auction, Saturday April 22nd or Sunday April 23rd and when is the Space auction actually taking place? Time is running out and I would really appreciate a definite answer. Thanks! Dave [This message has been edited by mensclub10@aol.com (edited April 21, 2006).] |
Robert Pearlman
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posted 04-21-2006 09:37 PM
The space section of Regency-Superior's auction is only one part of a larger public auction they are running through Sunday, hence what you may have read on their website about bidding ending on the 23rd. For the space lots only, which will be offered tomorrow, April 22, internet bidding — i.e. proxy bids through their website — closes at 9am (PT) one hour prior to the sale. Live internet bidding through eBay Live Auctions begins at 10am (PT) concurrent with bidding on the auction floor and by phone. [This message has been edited by Robert Pearlman (edited April 21, 2006).] |
yeknom-ecaps
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posted 04-21-2006 09:37 PM
My understanding is that the note you are referring to is for the ENTIRE auction (including the non-space pieces) and Internet bids on the Regency web site closes before that section floor bidding starts. So space Internet bids on the Regency site closes at 10 AM PDT. |
benguttery
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posted 04-22-2006 08:54 AM
I am not surprised people are confused. On the page for each individual item in the sale, it indicates the auction ends Sunday. "Auction" here refers to the whole three day auction. Ebay says it ends 11 PM Saturday. Regency also says that internet bidding ends a hour before the actual floor sale. Only the last I believe is correct. I'll just plan on keeping Saturday afternoon free. |
Robert Pearlman
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posted 04-22-2006 10:05 AM
Here is the direct link to bidding on eBay. |
JFS61
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posted 04-22-2006 04:11 PM
Does anybody who the heck was on the floor was bidding on the patches today? Bill Gates didn't happen to start collecting space patches did he? All I know is that I was completely blown out on the ones I was bidding on (Especially the embroidered SMEAT). I din't think that one would go for more than $500.00 to $550.00, tops. In the immortal words of Charlie Brown, "Good Grief!" James [This message has been edited by JFS61 (edited April 22, 2006).] |
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posted 04-22-2006 05:00 PM
Does anyone know how you find out if you won any lots in the auction?It seems that there is a chance that none of my bids placed through the Regency website were ever executed. Every item that I went to check to see who the high bidder was says the floor bidder was the winner and never mentions my name or id. The high bid on those items were also my high bids. Does the floor bidder represent those people who place their bids on the Regency website and in fact I may have won those items? Now that I'm thinking about it, how would they have a user name for me? They would just know my email address and my password. Maybe I won all my items I bid on! Dave [This message has been edited by mensclub10@aol.com (edited April 22, 2006).] |
dave sixsmith
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posted 04-22-2006 06:34 PM
if you bid via ebay it will show in your won items...i just spent $1500!!!
dont tell the wife,,,, |
benguttery
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posted 04-22-2006 07:19 PM
Lot 1254! Wow! Good thing I didn't win. Won't have to sell the kids on ebay next week. |
Bill Hunt
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posted 04-22-2006 09:00 PM
Ah... Lot 1254... ;-)Let me tell you, the guy who won that lot today has been saving for just such an opportunity for MANY years, and he's extremely happy to have added six original Gemini crew patches to his collection. In fact, he's walking on a cloud right now, still in shock (the good kind), thinking about how he'll frame them above his office desk. I know all this from first-hand experience, 'cause he's me! I'm glad I was able to keep your kids off eBay, Ben! Man, I waited all day up there in Beverly Hills to bid on that one lot. And that's a LONG day, believe me. ;-) I have to say, however, the folks at Superior were all very nice, right down to a person. Good people for sure. So it was a long day, but an entertaining one too. Just to let you know, Ben, the Gemini 11 patch in the lot is a duplicate for me - something I already own. So if you're interested in it, I'm sure we can work something out. I know you just won that spiffy Gemini 9 patch a couple weeks ago, so it would probably be nice to have the pair. Ditto on the Apollo 11 bio-isolation patch and the original Apollo 9 patch (with the correct font) that were in the lot as well. If you're interested in any of those, let me know. Just give me a couple days to get back to you - gotta float back down and get my feet on the ground first! ------------------
Bill Hunt [This message has been edited by Bill Hunt (edited April 22, 2006).] |
benguttery
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posted 04-22-2006 09:19 PM
You lucky dog! Congrats. That was an amazing lot that I looked at a lot over the past few weeks and really could not believe it was there. YES, I want all those you mentioned. When your blood pressure returns to normal, let me know what you want for them. Ben |
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posted 04-22-2006 09:31 PM
Dave, what if you didn't bid through Ebay but through the Regency web site? |
Bill Hunt
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posted 04-22-2006 09:34 PM
Will do! Like I said, just give me a couple days to gather my wits and I'll send you scans, etc. ;-)Frankly, I couldn't believe my eyes either. Those Gemini patches are just pristine. Just absolutely gorgeous. Vibrant colors, wonderful detail. To look at them in the light, you'd think they just come off the embroidering machine yesterday. The rest of the patches are all vintage AB or Lion Bros patches (save for the Apollo 11 bio-iso and Apollo 9 crew photo patches obviously). They all have cloth backs and perfect stitching, but still not too uncommon. The Gems are definitely the gems, so to speak. ------------------
Bill Hunt |
Robert Pearlman
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posted 04-22-2006 09:52 PM
Congratulations Bill! Like Ben, I watched with envy as the lot (quickly) surpassed my budget. I'm glad it did as I cannot think of a better person for such a treasure to be entrusted. I was impressed by how well all the patches performed today. I had hoped to pick up a few lots myself today but walked away empty handed. Prices across the board were strong. Ben, don't feel too pressured to take Bill up on everything he offers; I'd be happy to pick up whatever you can't take, you know, in the interest of your kids...  |
apollo11lem5
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posted 04-22-2006 10:00 PM
Hello All....Does anyone know what became of lot # 921? It was a signed SMEAT beta cloth patch. I had an absentee bid accepted by Ebay and now it is not listed at all as to won or lost in " MY Ebay". I bid overall on 2 items and received an "Item Won" notification on one item and the other isa complete mystery. It just disappeared !! I have not a clue. THANKS ALL...Donald Brady[This message has been edited by apollo11lem5 (edited April 22, 2006).] |
yeknom-ecaps
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posted 04-22-2006 11:20 PM
Don -
Enter your eBay id on the "Items by Bidder" on the Search Page. My bids showed up there but disappeared on the "My eBay" page. I didn't win the "missing" ones. |
spaced out
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posted 04-23-2006 02:50 AM
quote:
Originally posted by apollo11lem5:
Does anyone know what became of lot # 921? It was a signed SMEAT beta cloth patch.
Sold for $450 to the house floor - i.e. people at the auction or who placed bids through the web site. |
apollo11lem5
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posted 04-23-2006 07:04 AM
Tom and Spacedout....THANK YOU very much for the information !! It is greatly appreciated. At least I went 1 for 2 !! Best To all....Don |
mjanovec
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posted 04-23-2006 10:58 AM
It was my first auction of this nature and I went 2 for 2 on the items I bid on. At least I assume I won, since both items sold for less than my absentee bid. Anyone know how long it takes for Superior to notify winners?After my lots were done, I "stuck around" (live on Ebay) to watch up through the Shuttle items. There are some collectors out there with DEEP pockets. No surprise there...
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Bill Hunt
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posted 04-23-2006 02:40 PM
The Regency Superior people said before the auction that it takes at least a couple days to coordinate the invoicing with eBay for online bidders. Plus, they have another auction (stamps and coins) going on today. I'm sure invoices will be generated early this week.------------------
Bill Hunt |
hammer&feather
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posted 04-23-2006 02:44 PM
Hi, I would like to make one suggestion regarding the Regency Superior live bidding system. I would make clear what a floor bid is. I believe that a floor bidder is absentee bidder by mail and internet too. So why not write during live auction: Mail bidder, Phone bidder, Floor bidder, www. live .bidder, www. absentee .bidder. This way we all have an better idea about what is going on. Right now we mostly see floor bidder and I believe the approx 20 people visiting the auction house don't have so many funds to bid on so many lots. It is amazing that 100's of lots or sometimes 1000's of lots can realize such high prices. Another suggestion I would make is that auction houses may think over their high estimates on almost every lot mostly three times higher as the real market value. I know that this is misleading for new collectors and is just bad marketing. Some bidders might be tempted to bid higher only to see later that the real market value is much lower. In my opinion their is no real value unless bidders bid on their lots. That's all I have to say and as I have posted on this board before the space lots offered by superior were A+ and some pieces could go from Regency Superior directly into a Museum. Some lots were unique. For instance the Deke flown beta cloth patches. I believe they went for a bargain as they came from Slayton's family.
I realize that my suggestions are not in the interest of Regency Superior or any other auction house but surely in the interest of their customers.
Andy [This message has been edited by hammer&feather (edited April 23, 2006).] |
gliderpilotuk
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posted 04-23-2006 05:18 PM
The ASTP flown checklists were a remarkable bargain. Very pleased with #937 Flown power loss checklist for $525 + premium.Paul Bramley |
Robert Pearlman
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posted 04-25-2006 05:11 PM
Regency-Superior has provided collectSPACE with the hammer prices for their recent sale. They can now be referenced as part of our auction results archive. |
4allmankind
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posted 04-26-2006 07:26 PM
Robert- Is there anyway to view the lot descriptions and photos? I cant seem to find it on the RS website. Is there a way to review closed items on ebay live?
Thanks- Jason
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Robert Pearlman
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posted 04-26-2006 07:34 PM
This link will expire on May 22, but here is eBay's completed lots report for Regency-Superior. |
4allmankind
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posted 04-26-2006 08:50 PM
Thanks very much.
Jay |
mjanovec
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posted 04-27-2006 09:37 AM
Wow...$5250.00 for the X-15 covers. Someone suddenly has three Mike Adams signatures in their collection (which is three more than most of us have). |
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