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Robert Pearlman
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posted 09-11-2024 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From Polaris Program (via X):
Orbiting Earth on board Dragon, the Polaris Dawn crew talked with families of Folds of Honor, an organization providing educational scholarships to spouses and children of America's fallen and disabled military service-members and first responders.

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posted 09-12-2024 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The start of the EVA has been delayed:
The EVA is targeted to start at 5:58 a.m. ET. If needed, a backup opportunity is available on Friday, September 13.

A live webcast of this mission will begin at 4:55 a.m. ET, which you can watch here and on X at @SpaceX. You can also watch the webcast on the new X TV app.

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posted 09-12-2024 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Captain Apollo   Click Here to Email Captain Apollo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The SpaceX EVA suit has its O2 feed entering above the knee? A curious design feature. But I suppose it makes sense in the context.

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Slightly unfortunate that delays meant they both went outside as darkness descended on the earth’s surface - they didn’t seem to get the most spectacular views possible?

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posted 09-12-2024 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Given that both Isaacman and Gillis stayed outside only long enough to go through their suit trial, never stopped to look at the (active) camera and wave hello and didn't bring a higher resolution camera out with them to capture the view of Earth, it seemed that the priority was on getting the EVA over as soon as the mission was ready to do so and not maximizing the experience for either astronaut.

Isaacman paused very briefly to reflect on the beauty of Earth when he first emerged, but I don't think we heard Gillis express any initial reaction. She just went immediately into conducting the trial.

I also question why they didn't let Poteet and Menon each ascend the Skywalker and poke their head out the vehicle for a quick peek after the suit evaluations were complete. Granted, it adds a bit more risk, but I wonder if it was at all considered during the development of the flight plan.

On edit: No sooner I posted did I see that the crew spoke with The Washington Post after the EVA. Relevant to this discussion:

Gillis said she also felt she could have stayed outside the spacecraft longer. "Stepping out and seeing the cusp of the world is absolutely incredible," she said. "It felt as if the time just slipped away. And by the time I got to the end of it, it was already time to come in. So I wish we had a maybe just a couple more minutes to see it and experience it and take it all in."

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posted 09-12-2024 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blackarrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since Apollo 17 has been mentioned a few times during this flight, it's a pity Isaacman didn't take the opportunity to pay tribute to an illustrious EVA predecessor by saying "Hot Diggity Dog!" on emergence.

One thing I noticed in particular was the way both astronauts held their hands: virtually at right-angles to their arms. I assume this is something to do with suit internal pressure, but it reminded me that Apollo Moonwalkers talked about how their hands and wrists became tired and sore constantly having to struggle against the pressure in their gloves.

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Before the historic EVAs by Isaacman and Gillis, wasn't the last time that a crew capsule depressurised for an EVA on the Skylab 2 mission in May 1973?

Gemini 11 was mentioned time and again by non-specialist mainstream news media experts and reporters.

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posted 09-13-2024 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAngel   Click Here to Email SpaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's no additional EVAs for this mission?

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Yesterday's EVA was the only one planned for this mission. They will be returning to Earth this weekend.
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...wasn't the last time that a crew capsule depressurised for an EVA on the Skylab 2 mission in May 1973?
Depends on what you define as a crew capsule. As mentioned in the article here on cS, in 2008, the Shenzhou 7 crew depressurized their orbital module to perform China's first spacewalk.

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posted 09-13-2024 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Polaris Program video
Harmony of Resilience: Recorded in space and sent to Earth via SpaceX's Starlink constellation, Polaris Dawn crew member and violinist Sarah Gillis invites you to enjoy this music moment in support of St. Jude Children's Research Hospital and El Sistema USA.

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I stand corrected but it wasn't (as some claimed) almost 60 years ago.

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posted 09-13-2024 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liembo   Click Here to Email Liembo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does their higher orbit mean higher energy for reentry? Still Mach 25?

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After reaching the record-high altitude, Dragon lowered back down to an orbit of 115 by 455 miles (184.9 by 732.2 km).

According to Jared Isaacman during a pre-launch briefing, they plan to lower Dragon's orbit again before beginning a normal deorbit much like the other Dragon crews have experienced.

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Per SpaceX:
Dragon and the Polaris Dawn crew will return to Earth on Sunday, September 15, splashing down at approximately 3:36 a.m. EDT off the coast of Dry Tortugas, Florida.

A live webcast of the return will begin about one hour prior to splashdown, which you can watch here and on X at @SpaceX. You can also watch the webcast on the new X TV app.

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Originally posted by Liembo:
Does their higher orbit mean higher energy for reentry?
The crew seems to think they will generating some additional energy... Great Scott!

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posted 09-15-2024 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Safe splashdown!

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quote:
Originally posted by Blackarrow:
One thing I noticed in particular was the way both astronauts held their hands: virtually at right-angles to their arms.
That struck me as well. Additionally, the video gave me a distinct impression that it was AI generated (I'm not saying it was, just that's how unnatural it appeared to me).

Also, I presume the helmet cam is inside the helmet instead of external. The reflections from the inside surface of the visor were annoying and detracted from the view.

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From Don Pettit on the International Space Station (via X):
Polaris Dawn entry this morning.

I photographed it at 7:23 am GMT from the Cupola on ISS. In addition to the multi-colored entry trail over Florida, the basic cone shape of the Dragon capsule can be seen.

Nikon Z9, 200mm f2, 1/400th sec, ISO 25600.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dave_Johnson:
The reflections from the inside surface of the visor were annoying and detracted from the view.
That's the first thing I noticed too. There's a reason why current NASA camera configurations are exterior mounted.

A total waste for the view obtained.

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SpaceX video
During its five day mission, Dragon and the Polaris Dawn crew completed 75 orbits around Earth.


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