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SkyMan1958
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posted 04-10-2022 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SkyMan1958   Click Here to Email SkyMan1958     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Assuming you count MLA as a Spaniard, you get a crew of four different nationalities; Canada, Israel, Spain and USA. At the ISS you can add crewmates from two other countries; Germany and Russia. This adds up to a grand total of six nationalities on one spacecraft.

Is this the largest number of nationalities on one crew in history? Thank you!

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posted 04-15-2022 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CMD_OVRD   Click Here to Email CMD_OVRD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’m actually kind of surprised by the lack of information coming out from this mission. I’ve only seen one photo of the crew on the ISS and that was posted by NASA. The crew did one short TV transmission from the Dragon on day two and we saw the NASA provided video of docking and hatch opening. Lopez-Algeria posted one short clip to his Instagram. As far as I know, that’s it except for the bland Axiom provided daily updates.

This follows a similar stance taken by the Inspiration 4 crew and SpaceX. Maybe I’m missing something or maybe these companies are under some agreement with Netflix or another streaming service. I, for one, would think they’d want maximum exposure from these flights.

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posted 04-15-2022 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The primary constraining factor is bandwidth.

Axiom has to pay NASA for use of the TDRS system to communicate with the ground, though the crew has also used an IP-based protocol to talk with students and media in each of their respective countries. Michael Lopez-Alegria even led a board meeting from space.

Check out the daily updates posted here and the videos posted to Axiom's YouTube channel.

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posted 04-15-2022 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CMD_OVRD   Click Here to Email CMD_OVRD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Robert. I knew there had to be a better explanation.

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posted 04-16-2022 06:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeropix   Click Here to Email Aeropix     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As to the lack of comms from the mission, I seem to remember the same thing from the inspiration 4 mission. Maybe SpaceX is protesting the high cost of TDRS? Maybe this situation will improve with Starlink?

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Axiom (and Inspiration 4) chose what services they desired for their mission.

The available bandwidth on the International Space Station is prioritized for keeping the complex operating and conducting the science aboard. A certain percentage is set aside for video downlinks and outreach activities.

SpaceX is planning to test using Starlink to relay communications during the Polaris Dawn mission later this year. That said, the available bandwidth on Inspiration 4 wasn't the sole reason why broadcasts were limited. Having recently spoken with Jared Isaacman, he was not aware that people on the ground thought there wasn't enough outreach and was surprised to learn of such after he returned to Earth.

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From the International Space Station program (via Twitter):
Due to unfavorable weather, the undocking of Axiom Mission 1 (Ax-1) has been postponed. Weather permitting, the four-member private astronaut crew is now targeted to undock at about 10 p.m. EDT on Tuesday, April 19.

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From Axiom Space (via Twitter):
Due to unfavorable weather conditions, we are waving off tonight's undocking of the Ax-1 mission from the International Space Station. The integrated Axiom Space, NASA and SpaceX teams are assessing the next best opportunity for the return of Ax-1, the first all-private mission to the ISS.

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From Axiom Space (via Twitter):
The teams at Axiom Space, NASA and SpaceX plan for the Ax-1 crew to undock from the space station on Saturday, April 23 at 8:35 p.m. EDT and are targeting splashdown on Sunday, April 24 at 1:46 p.m. EDT.

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posted 04-22-2022 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Headshot   Click Here to Email Headshot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So who foots the bill for the extra time the Axiom crew spends aboard the ISS and all the extra consumables they consume?

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posted 04-22-2022 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This question came up earlier this week and Brendan Byrne, an NPR contributor, was told by Axiom:
The agreement between NASA and Axiom allowed for the possibility of extra days.
That doesn't really answer the question and there was speculation that Axiom does have to compensate NASA per the agency's published fees, but whether that cost is then passed along to its customers is unknown.

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posted 04-22-2022 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for perineau   Click Here to Email perineau     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Two landings and one launch in 6 days — I hope SpaceX is up to the task!

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From Kathy Lueders, Associate Administrator of the Space Operations Mission Directorate (via Twitter):
We now are targeting 8:55 p.m. EDT Sunday, April 24, for Ax-1 undocking from the space station due to high winds at the splashdown site. Ax-1 splashdown is about 1 p.m. Monday, April 25.

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posted 04-23-2022 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
...speculation that Axiom does have to compensate NASA
Per reporting by CNN, there are no extra fees for the extra days:
But the extra days the AX-1 crew spent in space due to weather won't add to their own personal overall price tag, according to a statement from NASA.

"Knowing that International Space Station mission objectives like the recently conducted Russian spacewalk or weather challenges could result in a delayed undock, NASA negotiated the contract with a strategy that does not require reimbursement for additional undock delays," the statement reads.

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posted 04-24-2022 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SpaceX video
SpaceX, Axiom Space, and NASA are targeting no earlier than Sunday, April 24 at 9:10 p.m. ET (01:10 UTC Monday, April 25) for Dragon and the Ax-1 astronauts to depart from the International Space Station. After performing a series of burns to move away from the space station, Dragon will conduct multiple orbit-lowering maneuvers, jettison its trunk, and re-enter Earth's atmosphere before landing off the coast of Florida approximately 17 hours later at approximately 1:06 p.m. ET on Monday, April 25.

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posted 04-25-2022 04:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MSS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ISS configuration after SpaceX Axiom-1 departure:

Robert Pearlman
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SpaceX video
Dragon will jettison its trunk, and re-enter Earth's atmosphere before landing off the coast of Florida at approximately 1:06 p.m. EDT on Monday, April 25.

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posted 04-26-2022 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpaceAngel   Click Here to Email SpaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can imagine Stibbe made Ilan Roman proud within the heart.

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posted 04-26-2022 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oly   Click Here to Email oly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is the distance from land that the Dragon splashed down?

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To my knowledge, SpaceX has not released coordinates for the target or actual landing zones. This graphic, via NASA, is as close I have seen to an indication of where the splashdown areas are in relation to the coast:

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posted 04-28-2022 05:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for oly   Click Here to Email oly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Robert. I was curious how comfortable SpaceX are with their splash-down predictions after a few missions under their belt.

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Originally posted by oly:
I was curious how comfortable SpaceX are with their splash-down predictions
Though I too am curious about the same, especially given how wildly inaccurate the splashdowns from the previous era were, I'm guessing that SpaceX and NASA are a little skittish to publish the data — at least in an easily discoverable way — since the "Trump-Boat" incident on the first mission recovery.

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Ax-1 pilot Larry Connor, together with the U.S. Air Force Special Warfare Pararescue Specialists, made history on Sept. 28, 2023 with the highest-altitude formation HALO (high altitude, low open) jump ever. They dove from an altitude of 38,000 feet (11,582 meters).


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