Space News
space history and artifacts articles

Messages
space history discussion forums

Sightings
worldwide astronaut appearances

Resources
selected space history documents

  collectSPACE: Messages
  Soviet - Russian Space
  Buran space shuttle tile application

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq | search

next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   Buran space shuttle tile application
Rocket Chris
Member

Posts: 435
From: Guttentag
Registered: Nov 2009

posted 10-18-2023 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rocket Chris   Click Here to Email Rocket Chris     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A friend recently asked me something about the heat shield protection/tiles of the Buran space shuttle and said that, as an expert I would definitely know the answer to his question. I realized that I wasn't the expected expert who could have provided a satisfactory answer. And so the question still bothers me, but an internet search didn't provide an sufficient answer.

If you look at the Buran, you can see that there are black and white tiles in an irregular pattern at the base of the wings (in the area where the wings emerge from the fuselage), as seen here:

Where one would have expected white tiles, there are also occasional black ones. However, the patterns on the left and right are different. I have a guess though, but I would like to know if one of our the fellows here is a real expert and can answer my question as to why black ones got "lost" among the white tiles.

Thanks in advance for your replies.

Jim Behling
Member

Posts: 1847
From: Cape Canaveral, FL
Registered: Mar 2010

posted 10-18-2023 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Behling   Click Here to Email Jim Behling     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thermal analysis required it.

Robert Pearlman
Editor

Posts: 51229
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999

posted 10-18-2023 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rocket Chris:
...there are black and white tiles in an irregular pattern at the base of the wings
I believe the area you are referring to is called the wing chine. It is where the fuselage blends into the wing.

The U.S. space shuttle Columbia was notable in its appearance because its wing chines were entirely covered in black tile. But when Columbia was first delivered by Rockwell to NASA, its chines were white. NASA had the extra black tiles added because, by all accounts I could find, they weren't sure of the heating effects in that region during reentry.

Later orbiters, beginning with Challenger, forewent the black tiles for white thermal insulation blankets as both a weight saving measure and because it was found that the reentry heating at the chines did not require the greater protection afforded by the black tiles.

Buran didn't fly until 1988, giving the Soviet Union time to see not only Columbia launch and return from multiple missions, but Challenger, Discovery and Atlantis, too. The Soviet engineers would have seen NASA forgo the black chines on the later orbiters but still fly Columbia as originally configured.

It is only a guess, but maybe the staggered pattern was a bit of hedging one's bet, so to speak, on the part of the Soviets seeing NASA fly both configurations and not having the benefit of the AFRSI insulation.

And while not the reason, I always thought the staggered pattern inadvertently reflected the shuttle's name, Buran, giving the look of snow falling in a blizzard.

Rocket Chris
Member

Posts: 435
From: Guttentag
Registered: Nov 2009

posted 10-18-2023 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rocket Chris   Click Here to Email Rocket Chris     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Jim, hey Rob, thanks for quick reply.

I was not aware of this expression but you are right.

At first I also thought that it was related to a thermal analysis, or that some white tiles were missing before completion and they were quickly replaced with black ones in order to keep the target date.

What is also noticeable is that there are also some black tiles on the RCS near the nose cone.

Jim, do you have more information about what exactly the thermal analysis was intended?

And once again I appreciate this forum... just competent and helpful people here! Thank you!!!

And Rob, I think your supposition to the snow blizzard and the tiling is a funny, really nice idea, I still have to smile.

Jim Behling
Member

Posts: 1847
From: Cape Canaveral, FL
Registered: Mar 2010

posted 10-20-2023 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Behling   Click Here to Email Jim Behling     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rocket Chris
Jim, do you have more information about what exactly the thermal analysis was intended?
A thermal analysis would have told them what temperatures and heat loads would each location on the vehicle experience for various entry profile and hence what protection is required at each location. It isn't just "one" analysis but a series of them with different conditions and different numbers of nodes or points of interest. The more nodes the model has, the more computational power is needed to perform the analysis.

Daniel Lazecky
Member

Posts: 509
From: Czech Republic-Europe
Registered: Oct 2007

posted 10-22-2023 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daniel Lazecky   Click Here to Email Daniel Lazecky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Christopher, are you reading your e-mail?

All times are CT (US)

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | The Source for Space History & Artifacts

Copyright 2023 collectSPACE.com All rights reserved.


Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.47a





advertisement