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Topic: Christopher Nolan's 'Interstellar' (Paramount/WB)
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Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 53294 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 11-06-2014 04:00 PM
collectSPACE 'Interstellar' actors sought space tips from real NASA astronautActors Matthew McConaughey and Anne Hathaway, who play astronauts in Christopher Nolan's new science fiction movie "Interstellar," learned how to portray life in microgravity from a veteran NASA space traveler. "There is an astronaut named Marsha, who consulted on the film," Hathaway told an audience of actors and press after an early screening of "Interstellar" in Los Angeles. "I am embarrassed [for forgetting her full name] because she is an American hero and has been up in space five times." That is Marsha Ivins, a retired NASA astronaut whose five missions on the space shuttle spanned more than 1,300 hours in Earth orbit from 1990 to 2001. Ivins flights helped deploy and recover satellites, restock supplies and swap out crewmembers at the Russian space station Mir, and deliver the United States' science laboratory "Destiny" to the International Space Station. |
Shane Hannon Member Posts: 822 From: County Monaghan, Ireland Registered: Mar 2009
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posted 11-06-2014 08:14 PM
Having been lucky enough to see 'Interstellar' in an IMAX press screening last night, I have to agree with Robert - go and see this film.Avoid all the talk and reviews and just go along for the ride - it will not disappoint. That's all I'm saying! |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 53294 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 11-06-2014 09:44 PM
For those in the vicinity of the Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center: The National Air and Space Museum's Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center in Chantilly, Va., will host the world-premiere exhibition of the "Ranger" spacecraft from "Interstellar," giving visitors a view of the actual spacecraft built for the film. In addition to the "Ranger," the exhibition will include an immersive Oculus Rift Development Kit 2 (DK2) experience, allowing visitors to interactively explore the film's "Endurance" spacecraft. The exhibition will be free and open to the public Nov. 6–20. Smithsonian Theaters are the exclusive sites in the region showing "Interstellar" in 70mm IMAX. Moviegoers can watch the film on six-story screens at the Lockheed Martin IMAX Theater at the National Air and Space Museum in Washington, D.C., and the Airbus IMAX Theater at the Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center. |
Captain Apollo Member Posts: 366 From: UK Registered: Jun 2004
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posted 11-09-2014 05:20 PM
Seen it and I have to say massive disappointment. Epically slow, full of plot contrivances and contradictions and with a big dumb idea at the heart of it. |
Ronpur Member Posts: 1260 From: Brandon, Fl Registered: May 2012
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posted 11-09-2014 08:39 PM
Wow, that just blew me away! It felt like 2001 but made more sense! IMAX was incredible. I have to collect my thoughts on the science of the movie, but since it concerns black holes, wormholes and time travel, it still is rather speculative!I, of course, love that NASA is the hero in the story, and really, really want to slap the teacher who talked of revising the history books to say Apollo was a hoax to fool the Soviets into spending too much money in space! Oh, I want a model of a Ranger! |
p51 Member Posts: 1785 From: Olympia, WA Registered: Sep 2011
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posted 11-09-2014 10:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by Captain Apollo: Seen it and I have to say massive disappointment.
I just saw it tonight and I pretty much could say the same thing.I was very disappointed in this film. |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 53294 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 11-10-2014 06:03 AM
collectSPACE 'Interstellar' director, actors inspired by space historyOn screen, director Christopher Nolan's film "Interstellar" invites audiences on a futuristic journey stretching the fabric of space and time. Behind the scenes though, it was real space history rather than a sci-fi-based future that inspired Nolan to make the film, as well as gave stars Matthew McConaughey, Anne Hathaway and Jessica Chastain reason to reconsider their connections to space exploration. "Space exploration, to me, has always represented the most hopeful and most optimistic endeavor that mankind has ever engaged with," Nolan said at a press conference preceding the film's release. |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 53294 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 11-10-2014 06:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by p51: I was very disappointed in this film.
Personally, I enjoyed it. (Warning: minor spoilers ahead.) I didn't think it was a perfect film, some of the dialogue made me cringe and there were moments that ripped me back into reality (e.g. did Cooper really just launch into space without training at all?) but this isn't a documentary (despite the quite nice alludes to Ken Burns) and at its core it tells an engaging science fiction story. That, coupled with the stunning visuals and performances by McConaughey, Hathaway, Chastain, Caine and Lithgow (and ...), made the three hours pass by without it feeling long or drawn out. In fact, my first thought on the film ending was that I would have liked some of the scenes to be longer than they were. Overall, I'll repeat what I wrote earlier. I think people should go see it. This is a film made (quite literally) for the big screen — the bigger, the better — and if your first viewing is later on a television or tablet, I think you will be disappointed. |
Ronpur Member Posts: 1260 From: Brandon, Fl Registered: May 2012
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posted 11-10-2014 10:45 AM
Well, Cooper was a former astronaut, so maybe we just didn't see him take some refresher courses! I like what you said about being longer for some scenes. I said the same thing to my girlfriend when we left, which she did not agree to, lol. I wish there had been just a bit more at the end to (Spoilers) Cooper flying over the planet while Brand watches, of course that was implied to happen, but I would have loved to see her reaction after being alone.
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MrSpace86 Member Posts: 1631 From: Gardner, KS Registered: Feb 2003
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posted 11-10-2014 11:10 AM
I really enjoyed the movie (and my background is engineering and physics). To enjoy a movie like "Interstellar," "Inception," etc., you have to make sure you don't compare it to the real world and dive into it for the experience. These are science fiction films and are not intended to be documentaries or science lessons. I caught myself calling out several inaccuracies but had to remember that this was a sci-fi movie after all.Very good movie. Great visuals. Awesome acting. I sure hope it's a front runner when awards season rolls around since I don't think any of the movies released so far come close to it. |
p51 Member Posts: 1785 From: Olympia, WA Registered: Sep 2011
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posted 11-10-2014 11:31 AM
quote: Originally posted by MrSpace86: To enjoy a movie like "Interstellar," "Inception," etc., you have to make sure you don't compare it to the real world and dive into it for the experience.
I actually liked Nolan's previous films. With "Interstellar," you had to stretch that level of acceptance to downright comical lengths. I'm at a loss as to how I could go over all the plot holes and not take a lot of my time doing so, but there were so many I gave up trying to keep track of them all. Anything that isn't explained is simply put off as "it must be us, way in the future." The science was so flawed that again, I wouldn't even know where to start. Put simply, any movie that people rave mostly about, "how cool it looks" should be a red flag to most people that it lacks substance. That certainly applies in this case, in spades. It IS a cool looking movie, no question. But it's also a real mess of a movie, too. And at the risk of putting out spoilers, they don't even resolve the basic premise of the movie at all. Some will compare it to "2001," which is sort of valid in the concept of a very good-looking space film that didn't make a lot of sense to folks, but 2001 made perfect sense up to the very end. "Interstellar," for lack of any better way to put it, was an unholy mess. I'm convinced that the reviewers who have raved about it did so only because they couldn't admit to themselves that they didn't get it and assumed it was high art. "Plot? Where we're going, we don't need plots..." |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 53294 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 11-10-2014 11:47 AM
quote: Originally posted by p51: The science was so flawed that again, I wouldn't even know where to start.
Astrophysicist Kip Thorne, who co-wrote the original screenplay and shares a producer credit on "Interstellar" reviewed the final film and singled out only one element that he said ran counter to what was scientifically plausible (spoiler: ice clouds). I know that Phil Plait and others have pointed out other issues, but again, this is science fiction. quote: And at the risk of putting out spoilers, they don't even resolve the basic premise of the movie at all.
From my perspective, the basic premise of the film was solved quite clearly by time the credits role... |
Ronpur Member Posts: 1260 From: Brandon, Fl Registered: May 2012
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posted 11-10-2014 01:05 PM
I thought they resolved as well. Plan A worked. And we know what happens to a pop up in baseball in an O'Neill colony. |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 53294 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 11-10-2014 02:59 PM
Christopher Nolan has replied to critics who have questioned the science in "Interstellar": Those issues are all buttoned-up, and Kip has a book on the science of the film (The Science of Interstellar) about what's real, and what's speculation — because much of it is, of course, speculation. There have been a bunch of knee-jerk tweets by people who've only seen the film once, but to really take on the science of the film, you're going to need to sit down with the film for a bit and probably also read Kip's book. I know where we cheated in the way you have to cheat in movies, and I've made Kip aware of those things. |
Captain Apollo Member Posts: 366 From: UK Registered: Jun 2004
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posted 11-10-2014 07:47 PM
[Spoilers] Plot holes and silly contrivances such as these...NASA is persona non grata, it's taught in schools that the moon landings did not happen, but at the same time there is a massive secret NASA installation and what must be billion dollar or more spacecraft have been and are being built. The film rests on the lead character Cooper's love for his daughter. I guess his son can just go ahead and die then? And love surpasses time, space and gravity. No it doesn't. The "tesseract" time sequence climax has Cooper trying to get a message to his daughter in the past to tell him to stay, moments after he gave her the coordinates to the NASA base that caused him to leave... Just don't do that then. And while we are at it, who were NASA planning would lead the mission, since Cooper essentially recruited himself? If they are so keen on him, why not just go get him? There are more, but I am trying to get the three hours lost back. |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 53294 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 11-10-2014 08:02 PM
Spoilers... quote: Originally posted by Captain Apollo: ...but at the same time there is a massive secret NASA installation and what must be billion dollar or more spacecraft have been and are being built.
Granted, it goes by quickly in the dialog, but everything the underground NASA has is leftover from its earlier support of a war (it is explained that NASA's activities — including the Lazarus mission and its unused Endurance spaceship — was scaled back/canceled after the space agency refused to continue dropping missiles on the United States' enemies). quote: Just don't do that then.
After he comes to realize that he can't stop himself from leaving, his next goal is to provide his daughter with the information needed to save her and everyone else on Earth. quote: And while we are at it, who were NASA planning would lead the mission, since Cooper essentially recruited himself?
This is also answered in a quick bit of dialog. Doyle (played by Wes Bentley) was trained to pilot the ship, but only on a simulator, whereas Cooper previously flew it on test flights. |
Captain Apollo Member Posts: 366 From: UK Registered: Jun 2004
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posted 11-11-2014 07:39 AM
Obviously I disagree. Any nearly three hour film that has to rely on snatches of dialog to explain major plot points is not doing its job, especially as so much of that time is otherwise spent on turgid exposition and attempts at emotional meaningfulness. |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 53294 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 11-11-2014 08:00 AM
How NASA obtained its spacecraft or who was to fly the Ranger before Cooper was recruited is not critical to the overall plot of "Interstellar." They are details that are nice to know, but do not play a major role in the course of events shown on screen.It's like discussing how the Force works in "Star Wars." Midi-chlorians are an interesting detail (for some) but you don't need to know anything about them while watching the original trilogy (even though George Lucas says he came up with the idea in 1977). As for "attempts at emotional meaningfulness," well, whether he succeeded or not, that was Nolan's purpose for the film. In that sense, they are more critical to the story than any of the technical details presented (or omitted) from the narrative. That doesn't mean everyone is going to enjoy it: if all you are expecting is a hard science fiction tale heavy on the technology and shallow on the relationships, this isn't the film for you. |
Captain Apollo Member Posts: 366 From: UK Registered: Jun 2004
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posted 11-11-2014 12:53 PM
We'll have to disagree! But I wasn't seeking a hard SF movie, I was seeking a movie that combined the scientific with the emotional with perhaps a twist of the mystical in an affecting and coherent manner. Not what I got. This review says it well for me. |
Fra Mauro Member Posts: 1739 From: Bethpage, N.Y. Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 11-11-2014 03:40 PM
It was good but certainly not a life changing movie for me. At times the music drowned out the dialogue. I did like the early lines about how the public refused to spend money on space exploration. |
p51 Member Posts: 1785 From: Olympia, WA Registered: Sep 2011
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posted 11-11-2014 05:22 PM
The fervor people will jump to the defense of this movie is downright staggering. You can tell me you liked it, you can say you personally didn't care that so many things were left unanswered, but you simply canot honestly say that there were massive holes in the plot. If you can, you just didn't see the movie. There's no other way around that.This is Nolan's, "2001," ending nobody understands included. There's no harm in that, but just don't say it all clicked. Ask yourself this, why do you so easily accept the Cooper character found himself in some kind of Narnia-based black hole, then instantly in a hospital, and NOT ONE WORD is said about how he got there? That'd be like Bruce Willis showing up at runway 33 at KSC after the rest of the characters landed after blowing up the asteroid in "Armageddon" and nobody thinks to ask, "Hey, how'd you get here?" And then, the fans saying that it was answered in the movie, when it clearly wasn't. I'm still befuddled at the numbers of people who'll say Bruce coming back made sense in that case. Tell me you liked it anyway, plot holes and all, and I'd respect that. But you just can't say the plot was cohesive, because it's a fact that it wasn't. |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 53294 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 11-11-2014 06:08 PM
I don't think the movie is perfect, it has its flaws. But I disagree what you describe are plot holes. How Cooper gets from the black hole to the O'Neill colony isn't critical to the plot. We know the tesseract can manipulate both time and space, so it's a rather simple conclusion that it dropped him within the vicinity of the colony, such that he could be recovered. (And it is said that he was recovered by a Ranger spacecraft.) "Interstellar" is not my favorite movie. Truth be told, I liked "Gravity" more, but I think "Interstellar" should be judged for what it actually was, rather than what people might have wanted it to be. It is not a movie that shows you everything that happened from start to finish, and having heard from Nolan, I believe he did that on purpose. |
Shane Hannon Member Posts: 822 From: County Monaghan, Ireland Registered: Mar 2009
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posted 11-11-2014 08:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by p51: The fervor people will jump to the defense of this movie is downright staggering. You can tell me you liked it, you can say you personally didn't care that so many things were left unanswered, but you simply canot honestly say that there were massive holes in the plot. If you can, you just didn't see the movie. There's no other way around that.
The main fervor, on this forum at least, seems to be coming from those who are jumping to attack this film, not from those looking to defend it. After Cooper (SPOILER ALERT) passes through the black hole, it is immediately obvious he is back in the vicinity of Saturn, where the colony to pass people through the wormhole is being developed (and where Cooper is taken to hospital.) As Cooper is floating in the abyss, flashing lights in the distance indicate the Ranger spacecraft coming to pick him up. Films do not have to spell everything out for the viewer, and if you are familiar with Nolan's work you will be aware that he often leaves out the obvious. I would have to disagree in terms of there being major plot holes. I have seen the movie twice now and while some of the physics was hard to fathom for the layman, I cannot fault it. A more developed ending with Cooper seen landing on Brand's planet might have been more pleasing, but it is strongly implied so I left satisfied. Arguing over films is as pointless as arguing over who your favorite astronaut/mission was - every one of our opinion's is going to be completely and utterly different. I respect the fact that you and others might not have enjoyed the film. In stark contrast, I thought it was one of the most powerful, emotional and enjoyable films I have ever seen. The complete contrast in our opinions sum up the beauty of cinema if you ask me. |
Ronpur Member Posts: 1260 From: Brandon, Fl Registered: May 2012
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posted 11-12-2014 07:55 PM
I looks like I will get my wish for a model of a Ranger! From Moebius Models. |
GoesTo11 Member Posts: 1377 From: Denver, CO Registered: Jun 2004
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posted 11-12-2014 09:18 PM
Related, and of interest:It's being reported that "Interstellar" co-writer Jonathan Nolan is working with HBO on an adaptation of Asimov's Foundation trilogy. I plan on seeing "Interstellar" this weekend, and I'm looking forward to it, though I've had my expectations somewhat tempered by feedback here and elsewhere. But if someone can actually make a compelling screen drama from Foundation, my space helmet will be doffed in awe of them. |
328KF Member Posts: 1391 From: Registered: Apr 2008
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posted 11-12-2014 10:54 PM
I've been wanting to stay away from this thread... oh well.I saw the film at an early IMAX screening with my wife and 12 year old daughter. I have to say that I think she was the youngest one in the theater. The IMAX sound was loud initially. The "crash" scene at the beginning was so loud that I could feel my clothes shaking around me. This was an intense experience, and through sheer coincidence brought to me thoughts of the recent SpaceShipTwo accident. The sound level settled down after that and we were all totally enthralled by the movie. It's nearly three hours long and I never moved. The story is good, the acting is great, and the visuals deserve all the credit Hollywood deems necessary to dole out every year. (I'm NOT a fan of the multitude of annual awards shows.) The film is very large in scope... every bit what 2001 was in its time. Some "film critics" got completely lost in the Einstein physics of it and gave up, leaving themselves to berate the parts they couldn't understand to fill their column inches and earn their paychecks. Sad. I think some critics had already made up their minds about Nolan and his social/political leanings and went into the theater looking for reasons to bash the film for some deep ambiguous meaning behind it. I enjoyed his "Dark Knight Rises," but found the overt presentation of the current issue of "income inequality" to be too central to the plot. But I certainly didn't take that bias with me when I went to see "Interstellar."It was earlier said "you take away from the film what you bring to it." I think this is perfectly stated, only I would advise not to take anything into the theater with you. Leave your preconceptions, biases, or opinions at the door. Go see it, enjoy it on the big screen while you can, and don't try to compare it to anything else. You'll be amazed. When I went, toward the end of it people were crying in the theater. Yup, crying out loud. When it ended, people applauded. You don't see that very often. The story and the intensity of it affected every viewer differently. The best part? Tonight, my daughter, who sat wide-eyed through the entire film, asked me to take her out with her telescope to look at some stars. Can't beat that. |
Captain Apollo Member Posts: 366 From: UK Registered: Jun 2004
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posted 11-13-2014 07:27 AM
I wonder if being a Brit not an American makes a difference. This review from the BFI I found accurate to my views, especially this observation, "What can you say about an artist who, when seeking to celebrate revelatory vision and the indomitability of the human spirit, goes about doing so almost entirely through cliché?" |
Shane Hannon Member Posts: 822 From: County Monaghan, Ireland Registered: Mar 2009
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posted 11-13-2014 11:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by Captain Apollo: I wonder if being a Brit not an American makes a difference.
Well, I for one am Irish not American if that means anything, and I loved it. (Not convinced nationality has anything to do with enjoyment of the film though.) 328KF summed up my own experience of this film to be honest - I had the same reaction of people crying, applause at the end (both times I've seen it) and a multitude of questions and intrigue about space in the following days from my siblings who saw it with me. A powerful cinematic experience. |
tegwilym Member Posts: 2339 From: Sturgeon Bay, WI Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 11-14-2014 10:42 PM
Two days without power at home, and cold weather from a windstorm, my girlfriend and I went to see it last night. I thought it was GREAT! It all made sense to me and I like how it all kind of tied in the past "ghosts" from Murph in the early part of the movie. I didn't think it was boring at all, and really liked how the strange things made sense and tied together — but you have to pay close attention. I'm one of those strange people that really liked "2001" and have seen it many times. Yeah, it's a slow movie, kind of boring, but it's always fascinated me. I did see some hints (even in the soundtrack) of "2001" in this movie also. I think I liked this a bit more than "Gravity" also, but they are two very different movies. |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 53294 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 11-17-2014 12:24 AM
Garrett Reisman reviewed "Interstellar" after seeing it with a group of his SpaceX coworkers. A few days ago, a group of us from SpaceX took the afternoon off to watch Christopher Nolan's 'Interstellar'. We loved it. Then again, we don’t get out very often. We probably could have sat through 'Gigli' and loved it... |
Captain Apollo Member Posts: 366 From: UK Registered: Jun 2004
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posted 11-17-2014 02:50 AM
It is all strange. I saw it in a half-empty cinema in the UK on the Saturday night in the first week and people filed out grimacing. |
gliderpilotuk Member Posts: 3415 From: London, UK Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 11-17-2014 04:43 AM
Saw it on Saturday and the cinema was full. Kind of slow for the first hour but then it really kicks off. I thought it combined the best of Gravity, Contact, Signs, Moon and 2001. The robot is a bit ridiculous but the effects and the thought-provoking denouement were great. If it hadn't come so hot on the tails of Gravity this would have seemed even more of a game-changing film, but it is still stunning and unmissable.The audience left the cinema in virtual silence which I took as a good thing! |
sev8n Member Posts: 266 From: Dallas TX USA Registered: Jul 2012
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posted 11-17-2014 10:41 AM
Saw it last week in IMAX based on recommendations here. Two comments:Special effects were spectacular. Plot was not only full of holes but lacked continuity. In retrospect it seemed like three scripts combined into one movie, and not very well at that. Interesting experience, at "showtime" a theater employee came out and spoke to the audience, stating "due to the length of the movie there will be no previews", also said there will be no intermission/break and then gave directions to the closest restrooms. |
gliderpilotuk Member Posts: 3415 From: London, UK Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 11-18-2014 04:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by sev8n: Plot... lacked continuity.
I'd agree with that which is why I made the comparisons to such a wide range of sci-fi films. There certainly isn't a single "objective" towards which the film works. The rationale for the (spoiler) Matt Damon episode is especially hard to fathom. |
p51 Member Posts: 1785 From: Olympia, WA Registered: Sep 2011
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posted 11-18-2014 05:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by sev8n: Plot was not only full of holes but lacked continuity. In retrospect it seemed like three scripts combined into one movie, and not very well at that.
I think that's a fair point you just made. A co-worker said it best, that he liked how the movie looked but the plot was a mess. He compared it to some of M. Night Shyamalan’s later movies. |
Kite Member Posts: 1162 From: Northampton UK Registered: Nov 2009
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posted 12-01-2014 03:46 PM
Went to see it a few days ago with my fourteen year old grandson and we both thoroughly enjoyed it. Just very good entertainment which is all it is meant to be. |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 53294 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 10-09-2024 11:40 AM
The 10th Anniversary Collector's Edition of Interstellar includes a number of digital and physical bonuses, including reproductions of five costume patches. Celebrate ten thrilling years of "Interstellar" with this deluxe collector's edition exclusively featuring "The Future is Now," a new featurette looking back at this landmark epic from Oscar-winning director Christopher Nolan. A team of pioneers undertakes the most important mission in human history — to discover whether mankind has a future among the stars. Oscar-winner Matthew McConaughey stars as the ex-pilot turned farmer who is forced to leave his family and a foundering Earth behind, to lead an expedition traveling beyond this galaxy. This limited set includes the feature film on both 4K Ultra-HD and Blu-ray, a separate disc containing Special Features, reproductions of five costume patches, five theatrical poster reproductions, and a never-before-seen storyboard sequence from the director’s archives. |
SpaceAholic Member Posts: 5399 From: Sierra Vista, Arizona Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 10-09-2024 03:02 PM
10 years and no sequel. |