Posts: 4619 From: Sierra Vista, Arizona Registered: Nov 1999
posted 10-16-2008 08:18 PM
Space smells of steak, say NASA, reports The Telegraph:
Outer space smells like fried steak, hot metal and welding a motorbike, according to NASA scientists.
NASA has commissioned Steven Pearce, a chemist and managing director of fragrance manufacturing company Omega Ingredients, to recreate the smell of space in a laboratory.
His research will be used to help astronauts prepare for the conditions they will encounter in space.
Mr Pearce began working for NASA in August [2008] and hopes to have recreated the smell of space by the end of the year.
David Bryant Member
Posts: 986 From: Norfolk UK Registered: Feb 2005
posted 10-19-2008 01:49 AM
Freshly-fallen stone meteorites (in my opinion) smell like gunpowder! You know: the smell in the air after Guy Fawke's Night/July 4th. Several of the Apollo astronauts I've met have said that their suits/gloves/the lunar module smelt like gunpowder after an EVA.
(I sell meteorites, by the way, so I know their smell pretty well!)
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 44571 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
Without a strong sample size of folks who have undergone a space walk, they've found it rather tough to pinpoint the smell, with some former astronauts having called the odor akin to "seared steak," "hot metal," "welding fumes" or even "gunpowder." Now, NASA has enlisted the help of London chemist Steve Pearce — pro bono, mind you — to recreate the smell, hoping it will help in training exercises.
...mixing anecdotal discoveries together — Pearce says that seared steak and hot metal actually fall in line with each other and "lead us to conclude that the sensation is caused by some high-energy vibrations in particles brought back inside which mix with the air" — with the recent discovery of ethyl formate in space's dust particles (that's the same matter that gives raspberries their flavor), and there's a strong starting point for recreating the possibly sulfurous-like smell of space.
moorouge Member
Posts: 2480 From: U.K. Registered: Jul 2009
posted 11-10-2013 07:18 AM
Just been watching Clayton Anderson on BBC Breakfast. He said that space has a unique smell — rather like burnt oxygen.
Have any other astronauts reported or commented on this?
Editor's note: Threads merged.
Ronpur Member
Posts: 1224 From: Brandon, Fl Registered: May 2012
posted 11-10-2013 07:19 AM
I have heard them say it smells sort of like over heating electronics or like ozone. Also welding fumes! I suppose that is the same thing but just hard to describe.
It is what they smell on the spacesuits when they get back in the airlock, obviously not sniffing space itself!
moorouge Member
Posts: 2480 From: U.K. Registered: Jul 2009
posted 11-10-2013 12:39 PM
Clayton Anderson did mention welding also so, perhaps, that's what it smells like, that is once one eliminates those given off by sweaty bodies!!
spaceman Member
Posts: 1125 From: Walsall, West Midlands, UK Registered: Dec 2002
posted 11-10-2013 05:45 PM
I've asked a couple of astronauts in the past and gunpowder was the reply.
Philip Member
Posts: 6060 From: Brussels, Belgium Registered: Jan 2001
posted 11-11-2013 03:57 AM
Well there's a lot of alcohol in the ISM - Inter Stellar Medium
onesmallstep Member
Posts: 1320 From: Staten Island, New York USA Registered: Nov 2007
posted 11-11-2013 01:51 PM
Chris Hadfield was asked this question during his NY stop for his book tour and he also said gunpowder/chordite.
Spacefest Member
Posts: 1168 From: Tucson, AZ Registered: Jan 2009
posted 11-20-2013 01:13 PM
I would say space, being a vacuum, smells YOU!
JBoe Member
Posts: 987 From: Edgewater, MD Registered: Oct 2012
posted 08-21-2014 05:53 PM
I was watching NASA TV the other day and Alexander Gerst was demonstrating opening the ATV-5's hatch. When he opened the station's hatch it exposed the metal probe of ATV-5 and he said that it had a strong smell, like walnuts.
SpaceAholic Member
Posts: 4619 From: Sierra Vista, Arizona Registered: Nov 1999
posted 08-21-2014 08:36 PM
Given the possibility that marine microbial life is inhabiting the exterior perhaps the scent of sea spray can also be detected.
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 44571 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
The moon has a distinctive smell. Ask any Apollo moonwalker about the odiferous nature of the lunar dirt and you'll get the same answer.
With NASA's six Apollo lunar landing missions between 1969 and the end of 1972, a total of 12 astronauts kicked up the powdery dirt of the moon, becoming an elite group later to be tagged as the "dusty dozen."
Philip Member
Posts: 6060 From: Brussels, Belgium Registered: Jan 2001
posted 08-29-2014 01:17 PM
It should smell like alcohol as interstellar space contains some alcohol!
moorouge Member
Posts: 2480 From: U.K. Registered: Jul 2009
posted 08-29-2014 03:05 PM
It's a popular misconception that alcohol smells. Alcohol itself is odourless. What smells are the other ingredients of alcoholic beverages.
Neil DC Member
Posts: 156 From: Middletown, NJ, USA Registered: May 2010
posted 08-31-2014 08:03 PM
Pure ethanol has a very mild but distinct aroma, easier to perceive in spirits like vodka. Most alcoholic beverages are very aromatic from other chemical compounds, which usually mask this subtle aroma.
moorouge Member
Posts: 2480 From: U.K. Registered: Jul 2009
posted 09-01-2014 01:08 AM
From California Lawyer Centre Blog -
Ethanol has a "mild" odor when the concentration is high, as in a liquor or wine that has not been consumed. When ethanol on the breath of a human is observed, the ethanol is of insufficient concentration to be detected, so what is detected is not the ethanol, but the other compounds on the breath. These were either present in the drink when consumed, or were manufactured by the human body as part of the process of metabolizing the drink and meal.
From the DWI/DUI Facts & Fiction website as quoted by David J. Hanson Ph.D. -
Alcohol is actually odorless.... it has no smell. What people perceive as alcohol on the breath is actually the odor of things commonly found in alcoholic beverages. The breath of a person who drinks a non-alcoholic beer will smell the same as that of a person who has consumed an alcoholic beer.
Seems we both might be correct, but only for a given definition of smell.
Neil DC Member
Posts: 156 From: Middletown, NJ, USA Registered: May 2010
posted 09-01-2014 11:44 AM
Ethanol as first mentioned as being in the ISM is a more specific term than "alcohol" What we generally regard as alcohol, apart from other flavor chemicals is largely aqueous ethanol, then in decreasing order isoamyl alcohol, 2-methylbutanol, isobutanol, propanol, phenylethyl alcohol, etc. Concentration of components does indeed play a role in the their perception.
As a PhD organic chemist who works with people with acute sensory skills (flavorists and perfumers), I agree with the lawyers opening sentence, but disagree with the sociologist Hanson that "alcohol is odorless." Ultimately both should get their facts from chemists and biochemists who work with the neat and diluted chemical.
To get back on topic I remember reading a cosmonaut once said that after a Progress had docked and they opened the hatches he smelled a burnt metallic aroma.
music_space Member
Posts: 1182 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2001
posted 09-01-2014 06:25 PM
I seriously believe that space smells nothing, even in LEO. It's interaction of earth materials with solar and cosmic rays, later exposed to spacecraft atmosphere, that must generate chemicals which one can smell. Fascinating enough, though...
music_space Member
Posts: 1182 From: Canada Registered: Jul 2001
posted 09-01-2014 06:27 PM
Not that I'm claiming any "space smell hoax", though...
SpaceAholic Member
Posts: 4619 From: Sierra Vista, Arizona Registered: Nov 1999
posted 10-27-2014 04:12 PM
Have you ever wondered what a comet smells like when it’s hurtling around in space?
The odour is apparently reminiscent of rotten eggs, horse urine, formaldehyde, bitter almonds, alcohol, vinegar and a hint of sweet ether.
That's what the 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko comet stinks of anyway, we’re not sure about the others.
Neil DC Member
Posts: 156 From: Middletown, NJ, USA Registered: May 2010
posted 10-27-2014 09:02 PM
This a more fun way of saying hydrogen sulfide, ammonia, formaldehyde, benzaldehyde, ethanol, acetic acid and diethyl ether.
Combined it is probably a very nasty, toxic, stench dominated by the H2S and ammonia.
SpaceAholic Member
Posts: 4619 From: Sierra Vista, Arizona Registered: Nov 1999
Colin Snodgrass is unwrapping a series of nested plastic bags with the care you would normally reserve for bomb disposal. With the first layer off, I already understand why, as a sharp, unpleasant scent invades my nostrils.
I’m getting my first whiff of eau de comète, a perfume crafted to mimic the aroma of 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko as sniffed by the European Space Agency’s Philae lander, which touched down on the comet’s surface in 2014. It really is like nothing I’ve ever smelled.
The dense pong was created by scent firm The Aroma Company at the request of Snodgrass, a researcher at the Open University in Milton Keynes, UK, and other members of the Rosetta mission team. They will be handing out samples at the Royal Society summer exhibition in London next month. “We have a bunch of postcards impregnated with this,” he says.
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 44571 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 07-28-2017 07:43 AM
During their pre-launch press conference on Thursday (July 27), Soyuz MS-05 crewmates Sergey Ryazansky and Randy Bresnik were asked about the smell of space. Ryazansky answered first:
During my previous flight, I had three spacewalks. When you are getting out of the airlock it still remains in vacuum anywhere from six to eight hours. When we pressurize it back when we come back, it is not 100 percent pressurization.
I'm a small guy and I was supposed to get out of my spacesuit and help my commander get out of his spacesuit — he is a bigger guy. There I had this very unique opportunity to check what space smells like. It smells like welding. This is a very ozone, metallic, very distinctive smell.
Bresnik then added:
On the American segment, the same thing after an EVA, when they open the hatch and we repressurize there is a very strong smell. And I smelled it and it was immediate that I knew what it was.
I asked another crew member before I said anything to see what they said. And Nicole Stott said the exact same thing, what space smelled like on the American segment, or the USOS segment: it smells like cream of mushroom soup.
SpaceAholic Member
Posts: 4619 From: Sierra Vista, Arizona Registered: Nov 1999
posted 07-28-2017 03:29 PM
Can be argued that ISS EVA crewmembers are not smelling space given they are in the Earth's thermosphere which has constituent gases in ratios and density (some highly ionized) not organic to true space.
SpaceAholic Member
Posts: 4619 From: Sierra Vista, Arizona Registered: Nov 1999
posted 04-24-2018 10:16 AM
Scientists have directly observed a molecule in the Uranus' deep atmosphere that confirms the planet's stench: hydrogen sulfide.
“It adds another piece of information about the planets and how they form,” study author Patrick Irwin from the University of Oxford told Gizmodo. “Uranus and Neptune formed in a colder part of the solar nebula,” the early stage of our solar system when it was just our young sun and lots of dust, “than Jupiter and Saturn.”
Scientists have long assumed that cloud tops near the giant green planet’s surface contained hydrogen sulfide and ammonia, but that hypothesis has been based on inference rather than direct observations. Scientists figured these molecules were there based on an unexplained absence of certain wavelengths of light. It’s like guessing something’s identity based on a warped version of the shadow it casts without really looking at it.
The team peered deep into Uranus’s atmosphere, at and below the part we might call its “surface,” using the Gemini-North’s Near-infrared Integral Field Spectrometer in Hawaii. They report that they’ve directly detected the molecule at around 0.4-0.8 parts per million as ice in its cloud tops. They measured more hydrogen sulfide than ammonia, and also the exact concentration of hydrogen sulfide required to produce a rotten-egg fart smell. They published their paper today in Nature Astronomy.
mjanovec Member
Posts: 3811 From: Midwest, USA Registered: Jul 2005
posted 05-04-2018 01:59 PM
Is anyone really surprised that Uranus smells like a "rotten-egg fart?"
Liembo Member
Posts: 661 From: Bothell, WA Registered: Jan 2013
posted 05-04-2018 03:44 PM
Is it possible they're smelling the sun-baked parts of their spacecraft? For example, look at the Quest EVA hatch cover for the ISS:
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 44571 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 04-01-2019 12:00 AM
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Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 44571 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
Lockheed Martin's April Fools' Day joke passed the smell test.
The aerospace company on Monday (April 1) kicked off its prank by announcing a launch, but rather than it being of a rocket or a spacecraft, it was Vector, "the first ever fragrance to capture the aroma of space." And no sooner did the liftoff occur, than thousands of people came to Lockheed Martin's website to request a sample.
One might expect that to be the gag, but the company went a step further, not only creating a spot-on ad for the bottled essence of space, but also producing the scent for real, as in actual vials of the unisex (if not also universal) eau de (zero-g) toilette.
"We started thinking about the rollout of this campaign," said Alex Walker, the marketing lead for Lockheed Martin's space division, "and how much more engaging it would be to have an actual, physical fragrance sample to offer, right?"
SpaceAholic Member
Posts: 4619 From: Sierra Vista, Arizona Registered: Nov 1999
posted 06-29-2020 08:48 PM
If you've ever wondered what space smells like, a new perfume may answer that for you. A Kickstarter was recently launched for a new fragrance called Eau de Space to bring the smell of outer space back down to Earth.
The fragrance was developed by Steve Pearce, according to Eau de Space product manager Matt Richmond. Pearce is a chemist and the founder of Omega Ingredients, a company focused on the "creation of the highest quality, provenance driven, natural flavours and ingredients for the food and beverage industry," its website says.
Pearce was originally contracted by NASA to recreate the smell in 2008, and it took him approximately four years to develop it, Richmond said.
It was created to help astronauts train before launching in orbit, and it was part of NASA's goal of eliminating any potential surprises astronauts might encounter or experience in space, according to the Kickstarter.
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 44571 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
If you like the smell of space, wait until you get a whiff of the moon.
That is the proposition now awaiting launch for the thousands of people who have already backed "Eau de Space," a crowdfunded fragrance that is styled after the distinct scent astronauts have smelled after re-entering their spacecraft from spacewalks. Having quickly rocketed to almost half a million dollars on Kickstarter, the campaign is now ready to shoot for the moon.
The team behind Eau de Space is set to bottle "Eau de Luna" — the smell of the moon.
spaceheaded Member
Posts: 151 From: MD Registered: Feb 2003
posted 07-15-2020 02:59 PM
I guess we can tell these are "fragrance people" and not space enthusiasts. From their Kickstarter page: "On July 16th, 1969, 51 years ago to this day, NASA set off the Apollo 12 space shuttle..."
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 44571 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 07-15-2020 08:32 PM
Now corrected ("Apollo 11 spacecraft"). They may not be space geeks but they are certainly enthusiastic about the topic.
SpaceAholic Member
Posts: 4619 From: Sierra Vista, Arizona Registered: Nov 1999
posted 08-12-2020 12:35 PM
French "aroma sculptor" Michael Moisseeff has set himself a new goal: capturing the smell of the moon.
In order to reproduce that smell, Moisseeff chose to detonate black powder in his own saucepans. After several failed attempts -- and a couple of scares -- he finally succeeded in "capturing" a burnt deposit.
Then, once he had worked out what kind of smell he was looking for, this modern day alchemist set to work finding the right notes to complete the scent.
A blend of metallic, carbon and sulphur notes combined to titillate the nostrils and the imagination.
"This enigmatic smell reproduced from the descriptions of various astronauts evokes scents that we know like gunpowder and chimney ash, but that doesn't mean that we wouldn't find it on the moon", says Xavier Penot, scientific mediator at the Cite de l'Espace in Toulouse and the man behind the idea.
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 44571 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 09-02-2020 05:25 PM
An update from Eau de Space:
We did it! Over 31,200% to our original funding goal, $614,377 pledged, 12,995 backers (most new to Kickstarter!), and all in 60 days! Stellar!
We will release both fragrances, The Smell of the Moon and The Smell of Space, due to overwhelming demand. We set up a follow-on Indiegogo page to allow you to order if you missed the project.
Production Timeline
October 8 - Fragrance is shipped to our bottler directly. QC Bottles (Drop Test, breakage, durability testing, drop test in packaging), packaging, seals, and atomizer. Affix labels, Hand Package bottle, randomized Lot Spot-Check again, package for shipping, labeling, sort by shipping carrier/geo, transfer to fulfillment partner.
October 20 - Customer order fulfillment begins, Orders out the door and on the way to you.