posted 07-24-2008 07:36 AM            

Dr Mitchell, along with with Apollo 14 commander Alan Shepard, holds the record for the longest ever moon walk, at nine hours and 17 minutes following their 1971 mission.

posted 07-24-2008 10:38 AM               

Based on the nine minute call, it (a) doesn't seem to be anything tremendously different from prior comments and writings by Dr. Mitchell, and (b) he isn't actually claiming first-hand knowledge but rather repeating what he was told by others. It is no secret that Dr. Mitchell's Noetic Science Institute attracts those that believe in extraterrestrials and that he has attended numerous conferences where they have been on the agenda for discussion, thus what he says here is of little surprise (and some might argue, consequence).

What made this interview jump from being just another late night radio call to tabloid headlines seems to be the total lack of knowledge by its host of Dr. Mitchell's history. Had Mitchell been talking to Art Bell, for example, it's questionable whether the same comments would have been noticed the next day.

posted 07-24-2008 11:24 AM               

While I don't subscribe to the X-Files, Uri Geller or the other UFO mania that claims ET's are living among us, there is some evidence of ET's visiting that can't be dismissed.

I've spoken at length with Dr. Mitchell about his work and the work of others in his field. He's an incredibly brilliant man, whether you agree with him or not.

While many think he's got his head in the clouds, he's actually got it in different dimensions and his level of intellect is far beyond his engineer training. Let's face it, if he wasn't the best of the best, he wouldn't have passed NASA's selection process and he wouldn't have been selected to walk on the moon.

It's obvious that the UFO mania is nothing more than tabloid trash, however, look at the case of Betty & Barney Hill, who in 1963 claimed to be abducted by ETs and experimented on. Neither of them had any interest in ETs, they knew nothing about space or astronomy. Two years after they were abducted by ET, they had nightmares so often that they went to a doctor who suggested they do hypnosis to find out what the problem was. Over the next few weeks of hypnosis, Betty Hill remembered the entire event and of seeing a star chart that ET showed her of the other planets they routinely traveled to. Betty was able to reproduce the star chart, but when it was shown to astronomers from 1965-67, they said no such solar system existed. In 1971, Betty's solar system, that she drew of the star chart on ET's ship was discovered.

So how did a 1963 housewife, who had no interest in astronomy and didn't own a telescope, discover an unknown solar system before the greatest minds on Earth found it?

posted 07-24-2008 01:21 PM               

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Originally posted by Spacepsycho:
In 1971, Betty's solar system, that she drew of the star chart on ET's ship was discovered.

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posted 07-24-2008 10:55 PM               

Apollo Astronaut Chats About UFO, Alien Belief

IK: Well first of all thanks very much for making a little time. I wanted to ask you if there was anything about the radio interview you did that was different from what you've said in the past.

EM: No, there's nothing different. Several of (the reports of the interview) that I've seen come around have some flaws in them. Some of the reports pushed it or spun it incorrectly. NASA had nothing to do with anything I've done. I wasn't briefed by NASA. There haven't been any sightings as a result of my flight service there, so if that part of it comes out on anything you've seen it is just totally wrong.

posted 07-24-2008 11:59 PM               

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Originally posted by Glint:
Given that the first extrasolar planet wasn't discovered until 1988 or 1992 (depending on which source you use) any claims of confirmed solar systems circa 1971 would seem to be unreliable.

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posted 07-25-2008 10:37 AM               

Top Ten NASA Excuses [of covering up aliens]

• 10. Didn't think it was a big deal
  
• 9. We would like to visit these aliens but gas is so damn expensive
  
• 8. Too much Tang
  
• 7. Been sort of preoccupied with this giant asteroid that's headed toward Earth
  
• 6. We were waiting to reveal it on a very special episode of "The Tyra Banks Show"
  
• 5. Hey chillax, bro
  
• 4. No number 4 -- writer abducted by aliens
  
• 3. Too upset to talk after what happened to Pluto
  
• 2. Busy trying to confirm evidence of A-Rod/Madonna sex video
  
• 1. Our leader isn't as bright as their leader

posted 07-25-2008 09:41 PM            

And I believe he is speaking the truth. I admire him for speaking up over the years, although no one really listens.

Dr Mitchell is really a brilliant man, yet, as he's stated, the press has no interest at all. Its almost taboo, you might get ridiculed for even persuing such non sense.

So what can you do, except share information with people of like minds and similar experiences. The press wouldn't know how to handle it.

This might be a great opportunity for Robert to personally interview Dr Mitchell, and let him speak of his experiences.

posted 07-25-2008 09:44 PM               

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Originally posted by Rizz:
This might be a great opportunity for Robert to personally interview Dr Mitchell, and let him speak of his experiences.

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posted 07-25-2008 09:54 PM            

The media has already begun spinning this in every direction.

The truth is out there and what a fantastic opportunity to set the facts straight, right here on collectSPACE. Go for it Robert!

posted 07-25-2008 10:13 PM               

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Originally posted by Rizz:
I'm sure he'll tell you a hell of alot more than anyone else out there who interviews him.

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posted 07-26-2008 04:12 AM               

Isn't the forum's purpose to allow discussion on space-related topics not covered elsewhere on cS? And isn't SETI one of the ultimate goals of space research?

Surely the views of one of your true American Astronaut heroes must constitute a valid topic for discussion?

posted 07-26-2008 04:23 AM               

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Originally posted by David Bryant:
Surely the views of one of your true American Astronaut heroes must constitute a valid topic for discussion?

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posted 07-26-2008 11:24 AM            

This isn't something that Dr Mitchell just came up with, and David, you hit it right on the head.

This is Robert's site, and I was surely mistaken that he wouldn't take the ball and run with the opportunity to have Dr. Mitchell explain his experiences right here on cS, in Free Space.

It would sure open up a lot of peoples eyes, and minds.

Dr. Mitchell is brilliant. Think about that for a moment.

posted 07-26-2008 02:51 PM               

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Originally posted by Rizz:
I'll bet a few more Apollo astros will come out and support him in the months to come.

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"NASA had nothing to do with anything I've done. I wasn't briefed by NASA. There haven't been any sightings as a result of my flight service there, so if that part of it comes out on anything you've seen it is just totally wrong."

posted 07-26-2008 03:33 PM               

OK, yes, an Apollo Moonwalker thinks greys are coming here and probing us or whatever. Fine. He can believe what he wants. I think he's wrong, but he has the right to believe that.

Two points on this. First, of course, the UFO folks will go ballistic over this, because, after all, Mitchell was an astronaut and walked on the Moon. But then, see my "get out of reality card" comment above. Also, this is simply argument from authority, which is bad logic. It doesn't matter who believes in aliens. What matters is -- hello! -- evidence.

posted 07-26-2008 06:24 PM               

There is no such incontrovertible evidence in support of extraterrestrial visits to Earth. Produce that evidence and the world's scientists will start taking the claims seriously. Until then, to quote Carl Sagan, UFOs belong more to the realm of superstition and religion than they do science.

And yes, I said religion, and no, I'm not ridiculing those who choose to believe in a deity. But it is a belief, not a science and as such cannot be asserted as fact. If a moonwalker says there is a god, it doesn't make it true for anyone other than himself.

David, you earlier asked, "Surely the views of one of your true American Astronaut heroes must constitute a valid topic for discussion?" Well, by your reasoning, collectSPACE should also be devoting time to discussing the world's religions, as there are astronauts who subscribe to each of them.

posted 07-26-2008 07:15 PM            

And with all due respect to Carl Sagan and Phil Plait, they offer their knowledge and opinions which are based on conventional science. I am not in a position to debate them, but they might not have/had 'all of the information needed' to make such conclusions. Again, I love and respect them both.

Let me give you a personal example of an unexplainable event.

My mom went to a place called Medjugorje, and on more than one occasion, along with many hundreds of people, witnessed an apparition. No need to go into any of the details, but one has to ask how do you begin to explain such an event.

Did it really happen, or was it some kind of a mass hallucination?

Something extraordinary did in fact happen, and although I wasn't there, I believe my mom. She wouldn't lie to me.

My point is that conventional science has no way to explain such phenomena.

So the easy thing to do is dismiss it, or come up with a ton of reasons why it isn't so.

But the kicker is -- it is so.

There are groups of people who live this and study this, and it is in fact very real, just like the UFO phenomena.

SRI has had a history of some pretty extraordinary events unfolding at their facility, and then there is another type of phenomena known as Remote Viewing, which is probably right up there with the topic at hand, in all of its unpopularity.

My point again is, just because we don't believe in something, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.