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Topic: The World Cup
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paul prendergast
Member Posts: 429
From: crawley west sussex UK
Registered: Apr 2004
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posted 06-25-2006 04:09 AM
   
Argentina were lucky to beat Mexico 2-1, Germany looked good, today England will progress to the last 8. FOOTBALLS COMING HOME [This message has been edited by paul prendergast (edited June 25, 2006).] |
machbusterman
Member Posts: 1778
From: Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
Registered: May 2004
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posted 06-25-2006 05:50 AM
quote:
Originally posted by paul prendergast:
today England will progress to the last 8. FOOTBALLS COMING HOME [This message has been edited by paul prendergast (edited June 25, 2006).]
I wouldn't be too sure... it could be more like ENGLAND's COMING HOME  |
Rick Mulheirn
Member Posts: 4167
From: England
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 06-25-2006 06:02 AM
Hi Paul,I wish like you the World Cup was coming home but on the evidence of the matches so far...... there are too many teams better than us standing in our way. The sad thing is, we have a team capable of winning it; they just need to start producing the goods. Regards, Rick. PS. You may be a mere snip of a youngster. I remember as a kid watching England win it in 1966 on a tiny black and white tv at home. At half time I even had time to go to the local newsagents to buy a "World Cup Willie" scrapbook. .... I had hours of fun playing with Willie!!!! For the uninitiated, World Cup Willie was the English lion mascot for the entire event. |
paul prendergast
Member Posts: 429
From: crawley west sussex UK
Registered: Apr 2004
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posted 06-25-2006 08:46 AM
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Originally posted by machbusterman:
I wouldn't be too sure... it could be more like ENGLAND's COMING HOME
Thanks Derek but at least we got there to come home and i do us remember us winning
1966 sorry i know that you north of the border do not like to hear that.
regards
Paul |
karlitko
Member Posts: 87
From: Czech Republic
Registered: Aug 2005
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posted 06-25-2006 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by paul prendergast:
Argentina were lucky to beat Mexico 2-1, Germany looked good, today England will progress to the last 8. FOOTBALLS COMING HOME
I would say England is more lucky so far than playing good. And I remeber
obstructions and playactings was not so popular in Premier league...
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zee_aladdin
Member Posts: 781
From: California
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 06-25-2006 11:45 PM
Portugal vs. Netherland was an ugly match, too many yellow & red cards, and the players were rude and with fighting attitude...I look forward for Better Matches at the World Cup. - Zee  |
paul prendergast
Member Posts: 429
From: crawley west sussex UK
Registered: Apr 2004
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posted 06-26-2006 04:43 AM
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Originally posted by karlitko:
I would say England is more lucky so far than playing good. And I remeber
obstructions and playactings was not so popular in Premier league...
We may be lucky but remember football is made of luck and when you have the rub of the green everything goes your way.
England will now face there toughest challenge vs Portugal but i am sure that we will beat them
Paul
FOOTBALLS COMING HOME
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karlitko
Member Posts: 87
From: Czech Republic
Registered: Aug 2005
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posted 06-26-2006 09:23 AM
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Originally posted by paul prendergast:
We may be lucky but remember football is made of luck and when you have the rub of the green everything goes your way.
England will now face there toughest challenge vs Portugal but i am sure that we will beat them
Paul
FOOTBALLS COMING HOME
Paul, don't be so sure - remember football is made of luck ;-) Karel |
zee_aladdin
Member Posts: 781
From: California
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 06-26-2006 01:26 PM
Italy vs. Australia today ... hmmm .... Australia was the better team, but Italy GOT LUCKY with a Penalty kick ...I guess Luck DOES play a part in this Game. - Zee |
zee_aladdin
Member Posts: 781
From: California
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 06-29-2006 03:17 PM
Alright ... Germany Vs. Argentina Brazil Vs. France What are your Predictions? - Zee |
Jacques van Oene
Member Posts: 861
From: Houten, The Netherlands
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 06-29-2006 04:05 PM
Argentina will win 2-1
Italy will also win 1-0
Brazil will win (I hope) 3-2
and I also hope England wins...but I think that will be a close game....------- Jacques
www.spacepatches.nl
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Kirsten
Member Posts: 536
From: Delft, Netherlands
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 06-29-2006 04:06 PM
Not to forget Italy vs Ukraine England vs Portugal My guess: Germany vs Argentina 3 : 2 after penalties France vs Brazil 1 : 3 Italy against Ukraine 2 : 0 England vs Portugal: As the game starts, the English team will look at the Portuguese in such a fierce manner that the Portuguese will immediately fall down on the ground and play injured. Thus, the referee will immediately disqualify the entire English team. Half an hour later, Portugal will get their first goal. Best wishes from the Netherlands  , Kirsten
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zee_aladdin
Member Posts: 781
From: California
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 06-29-2006 05:27 PM
here are my Predictions:Ukraine will beat Italy (1-0 or 2-0), Italy is NOT playing good, they're always complaining. Portugal MIGHT beat England (2-1) Germany Will beat Argentina (2-1 or 2-0)...
and ... Brazil vs. France ... hmmmm ... Brazil is a better team, but France is Hungry ... I dunno !!!! - Zee [This message has been edited by zee_aladdin (edited June 29, 2006).] |
Kirsten
Member Posts: 536
From: Delft, Netherlands
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 06-30-2006 01:02 PM
And Germany has made it to the semifinals !!! Now let's hope that Thomas Reiter won't sabotage the launch tomorrow because he wants to know how soccer proceeds ... [This message has been edited by Kirsten (edited June 30, 2006).] |
paul prendergast
Member Posts: 429
From: crawley west sussex UK
Registered: Apr 2004
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posted 06-30-2006 01:09 PM
Just watched the match, i am so glad that the hosts made it, we will meet in the Final i am sure with England winning 3-1.FOOTBALLS COMING HOME |
Shuttlefan
Member Posts: 173
From: 41366 Schwalmtal, Germany
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 06-30-2006 04:39 PM
YES!!!
We made it to the semifinals, party´s going on, won´t believe it, cheering crowds everywhere, quite a strange kind of folks these celebrating Germans...
By the way, Kirsten, what a good guess, you nearly hit it on the spot!
If Germany makes it to the final, Thomas Reiter may see the vast amount of waving flags from space on July 9th. |
zee_aladdin
Member Posts: 781
From: California
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 06-30-2006 05:54 PM
Hey Paul:I doubt England will make it to the Finals ... Lets be reasonable and realistic here!!! Even though anything can happen, I'm waiting to see how Germany vs. Italy goes, and how Brazil vs. France will end. Good Luck to Everyone! - Zee |
ApolloAlex
Member Posts: 390
From: Yeovil, England
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 07-01-2006 05:25 AM
Hi Folks,Well this afternoon England face there hardest game so far against Portugal and i believe it will finish with England winning on penalties like the Germany/Argentina game.What does the rest of the English contingent on here believe ? And i was very happy to see Germany beat Argentina last night,not just for the obvious reasons but i have a bet on with workmates that they will reach the finals,good luck Germany. And i would love to see a England/Germany final,that would be great! JULES RIMET STILL GLEAMING,FOOTBALLS COMING HOME! Cheers,
Alex. ------------------
"Why dont you fix your little problem and light this Candle?" [This message has been edited by ApolloAlex (edited July 01, 2006).] |
icarkie
Member Posts: 618
From: BURTON ON TRENT /England
Registered: Nov 2002
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posted 07-01-2006 01:05 PM
Players on £100.000 + a week and we still can't take penalties. 
Ian |
Shuttlefan
Member Posts: 173
From: 41366 Schwalmtal, Germany
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 07-01-2006 01:47 PM
England´s the home of football, thanks for that, but without offending anyone, there´s one essential rule to the game: Germany always wins penalty shoot outs and England always fails. But maybe in the semifinals rules are broken and I may look as a complete idiot...
Now football´s traveling home. I think it´s mostly due to the team manager´s tactics,which can only be regarded as confused. I still have no clue why Beckham was exchanged shortly after break, was it a real injury or just physical weakness? Information needed!
Just an hour to launch of STS 121 and still counting. Should fit well in the break of Brazil vs France!
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ApolloAlex
Member Posts: 390
From: Yeovil, England
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 07-01-2006 02:28 PM
Hi Folks,In response to my previous post "well almost". After Portugal missed 2 of the penalties i thought we had it in the bag and i also agree with Ian but at least Owen Hargreaves can hold his head high. And Shuttlefan i believe it was a problem with Beckhams ankle, he didnt seem to have a good game before then anyway possibly relating to his ankle,anyway good luck Germany i`m still gunning for you. Cheers,
Alex. ------------------
"Why dont you fix your little problem and light this Candle?" |
Shuttlefan
Member Posts: 173
From: 41366 Schwalmtal, Germany
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 07-01-2006 04:19 PM
Hi,
so good old Europe rules:
Italy
Germany
France
PortugalLes Bleus kicking off Brazil - quite amazing. The Brazilians deserved loosing this match and the old man Zidane is king of the day. But no shuttle launch after first period, funny world, we´ve got a summer as hot as hell here with sunshine all day and clouds scrubbing the launch in Florida.
Now let´s face two boring days without championship football - by the way, anyone seen my wife lately?
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Shuttlefan
Member Posts: 173
From: 41366 Schwalmtal, Germany
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 07-02-2006 02:28 AM
Good morning everybody!
There is an intertesting pattern regarding the championship:1962 South America (Brazil)
1966 Europe (England)
1970 S.A. (Brazil)
1974 Eu. (Germany)
1978 S.A. (Argentina)
1982 Eu. (Italy)
1986 S.A. (Argentina)
1990 Eu. (Germany)
1994 S.A. (Brazil)
1998 Eu. (France)
2002 S.A. (Brazil)
2006 Eu. (?) So it´s always alternating, only before 1962 it looked somewhat different. So you can bet some money on Argentina or Brazil for the 2010 tournament. |
paul prendergast
Member Posts: 429
From: crawley west sussex UK
Registered: Apr 2004
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posted 07-02-2006 03:23 AM
Well all i can say that we lost but we was robbed, Ronaldo i beleive was under instructions from his Manager to get Rooney sent off, he head butted him before the start of the game and when the tackle went in, the Referee was not even going to card him until Ronaldo went running to him, all i can say is that i hope the hosts go on to win it.Footballs not coming home, but England are.
Paul [This message has been edited by paul prendergast (edited July 02, 2006).] [This message has been edited by paul prendergast (edited July 02, 2006).] |
Rick Mulheirn
Member Posts: 4167
From: England
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 07-02-2006 03:34 AM
Hi Paul,I wish I could agree with you but we were simply not good enough. I think we all succumbed to the hype that accompanied this competition. Rooney I know was not fully fit but prior to the competition he was being hailed as a new Pele. He played in 4 games and did not score a single goal......... Owen is not the player he was 4 years ago and apart from his goal what did Beckham do....? I'm sorry my friend, I am as patriotic as the next man but we must face facts. We have a crop of excellent players most of which did not rise to the occassion and which were poorly managed. I don't think there is the passion to win like there was in 1966. Every one of those players, even Walcott, now has the terrible prospect of going home to cry into their millions! Graeme Souness summed it up well several years ago after a poor performance. "How do you motivate a room full of millionaires?" I think English football has been riuned by big money. Pay all the players £250 a week, with win bonuses of £75,000.... per match We would soon seen a different approach!
Regards,
Rick |
machbusterman
Member Posts: 1778
From: Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
Registered: May 2004
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posted 07-02-2006 04:36 AM
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Originally posted by Rick Mulheirn:
Hi Paul,I wish I could agree with you but we were simply not good enough. I think we all succumbed to the hype that accompanied this competition. Rooney I know was not fully fit but prior to the competition he was being hailed as a new Pele. He played in 4 games and did not score a single goal......... Owen is not the player he was 4 years ago and apart from his goal what did Beckham do....? I'm sorry my friend, I am as patriotic as the next man but we must face facts. We have a crop of excellent players most of which did not rise to the occassion and which were poorly managed. I don't think there is the passion to win like there was in 1966. Every one of those players, even Walcott, now has the terrible prospect of going home to cry into their millions! Graeme Souness summed it up well several years ago after a poor performance. "How do you motivate a room full of millionaires?" I think English football has been riuned by big money. Pay all the players £250 a week, with win bonuses of £75,000.... per match We would soon seen a different approach!
Regards,
Rick
That is a very accurate description of the game today Rick. You also mention about the country being taken on by the hype... the same thing happened with Scotland in 1978 when we truly BELIEVED we were going to win the world cup in Argentina. The calibre of players we had back then were all true greats of the game and now with the millionaire syndrome all we have are a bunch of muppets that clearly have no passion or desire to play for their country. After watching last nights match between Brazil and France all I can say is I hope the French win the tournament! Zinedine Zidane is an absolute genius and surely ranks up with Pele amongst the all-time greats of world football. Onto another subject though, that of tennis... Scotland's own Andy Murray DESTROYED Andy Roddick in the third round at Wimbledon.. Roddick was the #3 seed and is a two-time finalist at the All England Club. This will be a massive boost to Murray's belief and lets hope that come next Sunday we can be cheering on a Brit in the final! |
Shuttlefan
Member Posts: 173
From: 41366 Schwalmtal, Germany
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 07-02-2006 07:36 AM
Well said Rick, the simple question is how do you motivate these highly paid players to be proud wearing their national shirt and fighting for it. They know that with a 30 second commercial for a new energy drink they can earn 10 times their promised championship bonus. So what reasons can they have running for their lives without asking for the money?
Each of the semifinalists had their special motivation:
Germany - just look at the crowds inside and ouside the arenas, no more words needed.
France - They may have thought: so you tell us the old men, and everybody´s awaiting Zidane´s definitely last match, so let´s see how it goes ...
Italy - they are in such deep trouble cause of this abhorrent fraud story of their national league, the may want to show the world that Italian football is surely more than goals for money (and it surely is)
Portugal - they missed European championship so close, that they want to grip it this time ,and for most players it may be the last chance. Christiano Ronaldo is desperately trying to get rookie of the tournament (but I think, it´s Podolski)I think Brazil was definitely to saturated this time, they can play as bad as they like, the whole world still will regard them as football´s cream of the crop, but for me this was the disappointment of the championship.
Keep on watching!
Chris |
paul prendergast
Member Posts: 429
From: crawley west sussex UK
Registered: Apr 2004
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posted 07-02-2006 10:10 AM
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Originally posted by machbusterman:
Onto another subject though, that of tennis... Scotland's own Andy Murray DESTROYED Andy Roddick in the third round at Wimbledon.. Roddick was the #3 seed and is a two-time finalist at the All England Club. This will be a massive boost to Murray's belief and lets hope that come next Sunday we can be cheering on a Brit in the final!
I am sure that he is BRITISH ?????? well he played well yesterday lets hope he carrys on with it.Scotland the Brave Paul |
machbusterman
Member Posts: 1778
From: Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
Registered: May 2004
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posted 07-02-2006 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by paul prendergast:
I am sure that he is BRITISH ?????? well he played well yesterday lets hope he carrys on with it.Scotland the Brave Paul
Ahh... when Scot's do well in sports they are always called "British" by the media... when they're not doing so well they get called "Scottish" . - Derek |
gliderpilotuk
Member Posts: 3398
From: London, UK
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 07-02-2006 11:18 AM
Good point Rick.
I bet the players are more gutted by not winning their £300,000 bonuses than anything else.
As for the manager.....well the last 5yrs have been the best example of the Emperor's New Clothes. £25 million paid to this philandering fool by an even greater bunch of incompetents...the FA. Money has ruined the so-called "working man's game" in a way which fortunately hasn't yet happened to rugby. Despite the Portuguese play-acting we SHOULD have won with the latent talent we have.Off to wash the St George's flag out of my hair now. Paul |
FFrench
Member Posts: 3161
From: San Diego
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 07-02-2006 05:12 PM
Paul,Having seen how excited you have been following this world cup, my heart goes out to you after yesterday. I've only been a sporadic follower this time around, and yet at the end of yesterday's nail-biting game I had to shed a tear, to see those completely exhausted England players slumped on the field, some of them crying. I guess if you have to go out of a competition, there's a certain honor in going out that way - playing a full ninety minutes, then another half-hour, with the final only being decided on penalty kicks. It's essentially a draw, after which they have to decide somehow to finish it by playing an essentially different game altogether. To fend off Portugal when you've lost your key striker and are one man down was an impressive feat in itself. I was invited to a San Diego Padres' baseball game against San Francisco later that night, and to watch a middle-aged, overweight Barry Bonds huffing and puffing around a field while the crowd loudly booed him because of his alleged steroid abuse and coverup, really brought home the atheticism and endurance I'd seen from both sides in that World Cup match earlier in the day. [This message has been edited by FFrench (edited July 02, 2006).] |
paul prendergast
Member Posts: 429
From: crawley west sussex UK
Registered: Apr 2004
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posted 07-03-2006 12:29 PM
quote:
. when they're not doing so well they get called "Scottish" .- Derek[/B]
Derek he is Scotish he has just got knocked out of Wimbledon
Paul
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machbusterman
Member Posts: 1778
From: Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
Registered: May 2004
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posted 07-03-2006 02:05 PM
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Originally posted by paul prendergast:
Derek he is Scotish he has just got knocked out of Wimbledon Paul
A great pity he couldn't repeat his form of Saturday today... still, there's always next year! |
paul prendergast
Member Posts: 429
From: crawley west sussex UK
Registered: Apr 2004
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posted 07-04-2006 07:01 AM
Well looking forward to the game tonite
Germany Vs Italy, i hope that the hosts win this they have been the most consistant team in the tournament.
I hope that France stuff the other team that beat England, then it should make for a good final.Paul |
Shuttlefan
Member Posts: 173
From: 41366 Schwalmtal, Germany
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 07-04-2006 08:19 AM
Well, looking forward too. Got two countdown clocks running today, one ending a little earlier for STS 121, and one for beginning of the match.
Had been to England in May and saw already all these cars topped with little flags. Made some joking remarks on it and ... all right, got two adjusted at my own car now. Nearly every second car has got them now, a week further, and you won´t get a driving permit for an unflagged car. If we make it to the final and if Thomas Reiter makes it to orbit I´ll go out tonight with the driving flags to take part in one of the celebration corsos (or corsi, to use proper Italian). If we don´t make it, no more pizza and pasta for the rest of my life (or at least one week).
Best wishes
Chris
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Shuttlefan
Member Posts: 173
From: 41366 Schwalmtal, Germany
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 07-04-2006 05:03 PM
Flags up for Discovery, but flags down for the German "Elf", two goals against them in the last two minutes of extra time, what a big sh...
Just midnight now, need a pillow to cry on.
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zee_aladdin
Member Posts: 781
From: California
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted 07-04-2006 10:09 PM
Well Everyone:Brazil and England and Germany PLAYED VERY POORLY ... Hey, anything can happen in the World Cup. France Should beat Portugal Tomorrow (Because of Zidane), and the Finals will be Between France and Italy. - Zee
p.s. For all those who want to cry because their team have lost, I offer my Sympathy! |
skippy in space
Member Posts: 251
From: Aberdeen Scotland
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 07-05-2006 12:54 PM
Would have posted sooner but have only just got back from Germany where I was privliged enough to watch all Australia's games plus the Italy Ukraine game.
Can an englishman explain to me how Graeme Poll is the best ref in the world when he can't even get the right name on the yellow card. As for the italy penalty against us (Australia)that was well worth an oscar. But the best game was certainly the Germany italy game which was worthy of te final. |
John K. Rochester
Member Posts: 1292
From: Rochester, NY, USA
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 07-06-2006 09:56 AM
Is anyone at all thrilled about the Italy-France final?
If tied at the end of regulation... and extra time..will the World Cup be decided by PK's? |
paul prendergast
Member Posts: 429
From: crawley west sussex UK
Registered: Apr 2004
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posted 07-06-2006 11:35 AM
They say that revenge is a dish best served cold, well yesterday it was great all i can say is Vive Le France, it was great to see them beat the tournaments cheats, Portugal got there just deserts.I was so happy to see them beat after they cheated to get to the semis
Paul[This message has been edited by paul prendergast (edited July 06, 2006).] |
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