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Robert Pearlman
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posted 06-28-2005 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Per Phil Plait of Bad Astronomy:
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It's been announced that Bill Kaysing has died.

He's the man most people credit (if that's the word) as the original person to claim the Apollo Moon landings were faked. I'll admit, his death leaves me with mixed feelings. I'm saddened that he has died, but I must be honest and say he was a monumental antiscientist, responsible in many ways for one of the most colossal wastes of time and effort in my memory.

A Google search on the terms "moon hoax" yields a quarter million hits; "apollo fake" a hundred thousand more...


Read more about Moon Hoax originator has died in the Bad Astronomy Blog.

Elsewhere on Bad Astronomy, Plait relates the following, which I think (in combination with his blog entry referenced above) sums up Kaysing's character:

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When Jim Lovell, two time Apollo astronaut and commander of the ill-fated Apollo 13 mission, was told about Kaysing's claims, Lovell called him a kook. Kaysing, ever the rational thinker, sued Lovell for slander. Imagine: Kaysing, who says that NASA murdered three men outright and arranged for the murders of others, sued Commander James Lovell for slander! After some time, a judge wisely threw the case out of court.
(I had considered posting this news to the front page of collectSPACE as well as not to post news of it at all. Kaysing certainly doesn't deserve the respect paid to others who have graced the headlines of this site. However, I thought Plait's take on the news was very insightful and one that deserved to be shared. Otherwise, I hope Kaysing and his kooky theories are very soon forgotten.)

eurospace
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posted 06-29-2005 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for eurospace   Click Here to Email eurospace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Obviously, this passing must be a hoax.

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lunarrv15
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posted 06-29-2005 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lunarrv15   Click Here to Email lunarrv15     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
same thought

spaceflori
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posted 06-29-2005 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceflori   Click Here to Email spaceflori     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is it inappropriate to say
"glad he did !" ?
And hopefully his theories are following him.

Well...at least I said what everybody thinks here.

Jurg Bolli
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posted 06-29-2005 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jurg Bolli   Click Here to Email Jurg Bolli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good one, Florian, I agree 100%. Glad you had the courage to say "it".
Jurg

Cliff Lentz
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posted 06-29-2005 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cliff Lentz   Click Here to Email Cliff Lentz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do we know for a fact that he passed away from natural causes? How long before we hear a theory about how he was getting to close to the truth and it was decided to take him out of the equation entirely?

Glint
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posted 06-29-2005 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glint   Click Here to Email Glint     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I must admit that when I first read the subject line for this thread my thoughts turned immediately to Richard Adams Locke. But the reported death in 2005 of the original Moon Hoaxer of 1835 seemed to be a hoax itself.

(http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/moonhoax.htm)

But upon opening the thread I learned that we are not talking about Locke, but Kaysing.

About a month ago I obtained a copy of Bill Kaysing's 1981 book "We Never Went to the Moon" (subtitled: "America's $30 Billion Swindle"). It was in a collection of books being donated to the library of a non-profit organization that is maintained at my home.

I haven't read it yet, but noticed that one of the proofs he seems to have offered was that his accusation of hoax wasn't the first. Indeed others had made similar accusations that were not always made against the United States' space program.

As evidence he cited the 1966 Science & Mechanics publication "Russia's Space Hoax" by Lloyd Mallan. Our library has two copies of that classic literary work as well.

I should add that Phil Plait of Bad Astronomy has visited and spoken to our group in the past. A very interesting and lively fellow.

[This message has been edited by Glint (edited June 29, 2005).]

nasamad
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posted 06-29-2005 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nasamad   Click Here to Email nasamad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Hope someones looking after his cats !

Aztecdoug
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posted 06-29-2005 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aztecdoug   Click Here to Email Aztecdoug     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by nasamad:

Hope someones looking after his cats !

Was Kaysing the nutjob living in a double wide out in the middle of the desert with the cat farm?

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Scott
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posted 06-30-2005 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott   Click Here to Email Scott     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gee, two of my favorite things... a Moon hoaxer and a house drenched in cat urine. Pity I never made it 'round.

I don't know for sure what happens when we die, but I kinda get a kick out of imagining what conversations he'd have with Jim and Pete about now.

Glint
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posted 06-30-2005 08:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glint   Click Here to Email Glint     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Glint:
About a month ago I obtained a copy of Bill Kaysing's 1981 book "We Never Went to the Moon" (subtitled: "America's $30 Billion Swindle").

Oh wonderful. There's going to be a chance to add a new Kaysing book to the "hoax" shelf of the book collection:

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Press Release from Publisher's Newswire:
Biography of 'Wild' Bill Kaysing, Fastest Pen in the West
Published: Fri, 24 Jun 2005, 07:42 EST

By Aria C. Munro
Staff Writer, PubNewswire.com

PRESS RELEASE

MONTROSE, Calif. - June 24 -- Dietrich von Schmausen along with Wendy L. Kaysing have announced their plans to write the posthumus biography of William C. Kaysing, familiarly known as "Wild" Bill Kaysing, The Fastest Pen in the West. Mr. Kaysing was probably best known for the controversy he ignited as the "Father" of the Apollo Moon Hoax Conspiracy Theory. Mr. Kaysing has appeared on Oprah, Sally Jessy, specials on FOX and BBC and many radio talk shows and television shows all over the world.

Controversy aside, Bill Kaysing was an accomplished author of many published works on a wide range of subjects including motorcycle safety, low-cost living, farming, cooking and travel, tax relief, senior survival and more. Mr. Kaysing wrote about his passions and consequently gathered an international following. He believed in what he wrote and lived it as well, as many would testify. He was loved by many, inspired millions, and was the subject of debate by many more. He was truly a renaissance man of the last century.

Sadly, Mr. Kaysing passed away at the end of March this year.............

...Mr. von Schmausen and Ms. Kaysing plan to co-write what they characterize as a compendium of reflections, incidents, quotes, and philosophies, goals and successes of one of the most controversial persons of our time. According to the writers, the focus will be on the life (alt: adventures and misadventures) of Mr. Kaysing, rather than a recap of his Apollo theories......


What, no recap of his Apollo "theories?" I think I'll pass.

Danno
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posted 06-30-2005 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Danno     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Scott:
I don't know for sure what happens when we die, but I kinda get a kick out of imagining what conversations he'd have with Jim and Pete about now.

He better hope he doesn't run into Al.

kyra
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posted 07-02-2005 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kyra   Click Here to Email kyra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is probably not the end of it...next thing you know his passing will fuel the fire of the next generation of conspiracy theorists that includes his passing as a part of the "bigger conspiracy". Just like onion layers as this stuff usually goes. Like "he was on the verge of announcing new info that would proove his case"....

Undoubtedly there were things that were odd or censored (ie medical comms, frequencies)at the time of the landings, but the conspiracy theorists do not understand the jargon used, and use this as part of the support for their claims.

Friends have asked me about this before and I have said "It would take more work and money to hoax the landings than to go there. Given the government goes to the lowest bidder which choice would they make ?" That usually shuts them up.

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