Posts: 4040 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 10-25-2013 11:29 AM
There were four EVA excursions on Skylab 4:
Gibson and Pogue on EVA-1
Carr and Pogue on EVA-2
Carr and Gibson on EVA-3
Carr and Gibson on EVA-4
The only photo I have seen of an EVA astronaut on Skylab 4 is S74-17456. Are there other EVA photos of Carr, Gibson and Pogue?
keith.wilson Member
Posts: 95 From: Isle of Gigha, Argyll, Scotland Registered: Jun 2002
posted 11-11-2013 02:36 PM
On the subject of Skylab photos the crews took very few onboard images considering the length of the three missions. Why was this? A too hectic science schedule or the likelihood of film being damaged due to a prolonged stay onboard (heat/radiation)?
I have probably seen more images of the crews in the ground-based trainer than on-orbit.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 4040 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 11-11-2013 02:59 PM
I am somewhat surprised that so few photos of the EVA astronauts were taken during the ten Skylab EVAs.
J.L Member
Posts: 694 From: Bloomington, Illinois, USA Registered: May 2005
posted 11-11-2013 03:00 PM
quote:Originally posted by keith.wilson: On the subject of Skylab photos the crews took very few onboard images considering the length of the three missions.
Keith, there are a lot more than you might think. I would estimate that only about third of the images showing the flight crews aboard Skylab have been released. I have been trying for some time now to secure hi-res versions. Only have lower res right now.
keith.wilson Member
Posts: 95 From: Isle of Gigha, Argyll, Scotland Registered: Jun 2002
posted 11-11-2013 03:19 PM
This image is one of the less publicised EVA photos from Skylab. Skylab 3, Astronaut Owen K. Garriott looks at the camera as he participates in the August 6, 1973 EVA during which he and Astronaut Jack R. Lousma, pilot, deployed the twin pole solar shield to help shade the Orbital Workshop.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 4040 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 11-16-2013 09:56 PM
It is reversed (mirror image). The photo also appears in the October 1974 National Geographic magazine as a foldout.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 4040 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 11-26-2013 10:17 PM
Photo SL3-120-2283 is Jack Lousma.
Frames 2278 to 2284 are "EVA, Lousma" in the Skylab 3 photo index.
heng44 Member
Posts: 3787 From: Netherlands Registered: Nov 2001
posted 11-28-2013 12:32 AM
Is the Skylab photo index online somewhere?
LM-12 Member
Posts: 4040 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 11-28-2013 01:16 AM
You would think that the Skylab photo indexes would be easily found on the NASA website somewhere, but that certainly was not the case.
Posts: 3787 From: Netherlands Registered: Nov 2001
posted 11-28-2013 03:48 AM
That is amazing, but hey: we take what we can get! Thanks.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 4040 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 11-28-2013 08:19 AM
Here is my rough list of the EVA photos of the Skylab 3 crew from the index:
SL3-115-1818 to 1822 (Lousma)
SL3-115-1823 to 1830 (Garriott)
SL3-115-1831 to 1835 (Lousma)
SL3-115-1836 to 1837 (Garriott)
SL3-117-2098 to 2102 (Lousma)
SL3-117-2103 to 2109 (Garriott)
SL3-118-2171 to 2176 (Bean)
SL3-118-2179 to 2182 (Bean)
SL3-120-2278 to 2284 (Lousma)
SL3-122-2609 to 2610 (Garriott)
SL3-122-2611 to 2612 (Bean)
LM-12 Member
Posts: 4040 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 11-29-2013 01:24 PM
Here is SL2-100-798 in high-resolution. It is Joe Kerwin.
From the Skylab News Reference regarding EVA activities:
All three Skylab crewmembers will be suited up for the EVA ... EV3, who will remain in the MDA, will be "soft-suited," wearing a pressure suit without helmet and gloves.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 4040 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 11-30-2013 10:37 PM
In the Mission Report for Skylab 4, there is a 35mm film usage table. The table shows that there are 64 frames of extravehicular activity on magazine 56.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 4040 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 12-10-2013 03:38 PM
NASA is posting a bunch of new high-res Skylab 2 and Skylab 3 photos. No new Skylab 4 photos yet.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 4040 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 11-16-2016 10:55 AM
Compare the two similar views of Jack Lousma in Skylab photos SL3-115-1833 and SL3-117-2099. Magazine 115 was taken with the 70mm Hasselblad camera, and Magazine 117 was taken with the 35mm Nikon camera.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 4040 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 11-17-2016 11:54 PM
There is this image with the caption "Weitz performing extravehicular activity" in Chapter 5 of NASA SP-400 "Skylab, Our First Space Station."
LM-12 Member
Posts: 4040 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 02-15-2017 12:21 PM
Skylab EVA photo SL2-100-799 has this caption:
This medium close-up view shows astronauts Charles Conrad, commander for Skylab 2, and Science Pilot Joseph P. Kerwin performing an extravehicular activity (EVA) to repair the damaged and partially deployed solar array system on the Skylab complex. The photo was taken from inside the Orbital Workshop (OWS) by astronaut Paul J. Weitz, pilot.
Who is who in the photo?
nasamad Member
Posts: 2199 From: Essex, UK Registered: Jul 2001
posted 02-15-2017 04:13 PM
quote:Originally posted by LM-12: "Weitz performing extravehicular activity"
I have a copy of the shot in my collection from the Skylab book that is signed by Weitz. I always wondered if it was red tinged due to Skylab going into Earth's shadow or a reflection from the parasol or something?
LM-12 Member
Posts: 4040 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 02-17-2017 01:09 AM
quote:Originally posted by LM-12: Who is who in the photo?
EVA photo S73-27562 is Kerwin, according to the caption. The live TV transmission of the EVA seems to indicate that is Conrad.
So if that is Conrad, then I would say that Conrad is the EVA astronaut facing the camera in SL2-100-799.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 4040 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 02-21-2017 01:10 PM
On the Skylab EVAs, some astronauts had a cover over their waist-mounted Pressure Control Unit, and some did not.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 4040 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 03-18-2023 12:38 AM
Don't recall seeing this Skylab EVA photo (SL4-185-6692) before: it shows one of the Skylab 4 astronauts, either Pogue or Carr, upside down near the EVA hatch. This is the photo caption:
On Christmas Day 1973, Skylab 4 astronauts Bill Pogue and Gerry Carr had no time for celebration; there was work to be done. Do it they did, conducting the only spacewalk by U.S. astronauts on December 25. One mission objective was to photograph Comet Kohoutek on this, the second of four spacewalks for the mission.
Philip Member
Posts: 6296 From: Brussels, Belgium Registered: Jan 2001
posted 03-18-2023 05:07 AM
S74-17456 is Gibson during EVA on 1974, February 3.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 4040 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 03-18-2023 08:26 PM
Here is the NASA caption for that EVA photo of Gibson:
Scientist-astronaut Edward G. Gibson has just egressed the Skylab EVA hatchway in this frame taken from a roll of movie film exposed by a 16mm Maurer camera. Astronaut Gerald P. Carr, Skylab 4 commander, took this picture during the final Skylab extravehicular activity (EVA) which took place on Feb. 3, 1974. Carr was above on the Apollo Telescope Mount (ATM) when he shot this frame of Gibson. Note Carr's umbilical/tether line extending from inside the space station up toward the camera. Astronaut William R. Pogue, Skylab 4 pilot, remained inside the space station during the EVA by Carr and Gibson.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 4040 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 03-19-2023 04:19 PM
quote:Originally posted by LM-12: Don't recall seeing this Skylab EVA photo (SL4-185-6692) before...
I figure that is Pogue seen in EVA photo SL4-185-6692, and here is why.
The Skylab flight plan has these definitions for EV-1 and EV-2:
EVI - Crewman who egresses first and performs operations at the FAS Work Station (FAS is Fixed Airlock Shroud)
EV2 - Crewman who egresses second, transfers along handrails and performs operations at the Center Work Station and Sun-end Work Station
Pogue was EV-1 and Carr was EV-2 on the December 25 EVA, so Carr took the photo of Pogue.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 4040 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 03-22-2023 12:19 AM
Was Alan Bean EV-1 or EV-2 on his one Skylab EVA? I'm guessing EV-2.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 4040 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 03-24-2023 09:09 PM
Some confusion here:
Photo SL3-118-2182 is described in the NASA caption as a Skylab 3 EVA photo dated August 6, 1973. So that would be Garriott and Lousma seen in the photo:
However, photo SL3-118-2181 (one frame earlier) is described here as a Skylab 3 EVA photo of Garriott and Bean taken on September 22, 1973.
Seems like one of the descriptions is wrong.
Photo SL3-118-2180 (two frames earlier) is definitely a photo of Bean. You can clearly see his name tag. So I would say the NASA caption for 2182 is incorrect.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 4040 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 06-30-2023 11:48 AM
A slightly different Skylab EVA photo of Jack Lousma sold at auction earlier this year. The NASA photo number is SL3-117-2102.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 4040 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 08-09-2024 04:49 AM
quote:Originally posted by Philip: S74-17456 is Gibson during EVA on 1974, February 3.
As mentioned earlier, that photo is a frame taken from a roll of movie film exposed by a 16mm Maurer camera.
Photo SL4-185-6707 is a similar photo that shows the EVA astronaut (presumably Gibson) with both arms raised. It was taken with a 35mm Nikon camera. The photo is frame 46 of Magazine 185.
So Jerry Carr up near the ATM had both those cameras with him on the EVA?
LM-12 Member
Posts: 4040 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 08-09-2024 05:28 PM
Not sure about that Feb 3 EVA date.
The Farthest Reaches website has two very similar EVA photos signed by Gibson. Both photos have an inscribed EVA date that looks like 12/24/74. Maybe Gibson really meant the 12/29/73 EVA?
NavyPilot Member
Posts: 109 From: USA Registered: Nov 2015
posted 08-10-2024 10:05 AM
Perhaps relevant to the discussion, I've seen every photo posted in this thread previously. So, anecdotally, there's nothing really new (yet) — although it's been 50 years now. Some new material would be most welcomed by all.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 4040 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 11-23-2024 09:26 PM
There is some Skylab 4 EVA footage at the start of this film. Not sure if it was taken from inside or outside the space station.
The EVA footage is flipped.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 4040 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 12-01-2024 02:39 AM
When Pete Conrad exited the Skylab EVA hatch, he handed what looked like a 16mm camera to Paul Weitz, who was already outside.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 4040 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 12-23-2024 02:45 AM
I think was taken after the December 25 EVA by Carr and Pogue.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 4040 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 12-27-2024 06:38 AM
Capcom wanted some clarification before the June 7 EVA by Conrad and Kerwin:
CC: And, Pete, for positive ID purposes we'd like just a word of confirmation that you'll be playing the roll of EV-1 today and that Dr. Kerwin will be playing the role of EV-2.
CDR: Say again, Rusty. I was top side.
CC: Roger. Since we don't have any red stripes around the arm, we're just interested in being positive that the player for EV-1 will be the commander and that the player for EV-2 will be the SPT. Is that correct?
CDR: That's Charlie.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 4040 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 01-05-2025 10:20 AM
Apparently, the Skylab EVA durations were based on the hatch opening and (presumably) hatch closing times. From PAO comments in the transcripts:
The EVA clock here in the Mission Control Center started at hatch opening. We've copied the time the clock started at 17 hours 32 minutes 3 seconds.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 4040 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 01-11-2025 10:42 PM
Apparently, Conrad chose to do the last EVA on Skylab 2 with Weitz instead of Kerwin. This is from the PAO commentary prior to that June 19 EVA:
Assisting Conrad will be Pilot Paul Weitz as EV1. The Pilot's job is to take the film as it's handed down by Conrad and to give him replacement cassettes. Dr. Kerwin will work inside the spacecraft and is expected to operate the television camera as EV3...
This is different from the original Flight Plan ... In the original Flight Plan Kerwin was named as EV2, this is premission, with Paul Weitz remaining inside and Conrad the supporting astronaut. But at the option of Skylab Commander Conrad, Weitz, an astronaut on his first space mission, will be given an opportunity to participate as his assistant. Weitz and Conrad did train as EV1 and EV2, so that they could replace the Conrad / Kerwin team in case Kerwin should have been unable to participate in an EVA.
Since Kerwin had already participated in the solar array repair, done during an earlier Extra Vehicular Activity, Conrad decided that Paul Weitz should be given a similar role tomorrow.
So the team, instead of the original team planned before the mission of Conrad supporting Kerwin, we will now have Weitz supporting Conrad. This is a second or backup team, but it is being done just to give Paul Weitz experience and at the request of Commander Conrad.
posted 10-25-2013 11:29 AM
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