posted 06-23-2019 08:52 AM
I've been following this conversation for a while now; apparently there were no color pictures of the Apollo 7 crew walkout on launch day?
LM-12 Member
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posted 06-23-2019 11:03 AM
I have seen colour film footage of the Apollo 7 crew walkout on launch day. Have you seen that?
(The crew walkout scene in the NASA film "The Flight of Apollo 7" is not the launch day walkout.)
perineau Member
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posted 06-23-2019 11:30 AM
Yes, thank you, I have. But I've never seen any still color photos of the Apollo 7 crew walkout (if they exist).
LM-12 Member
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posted 06-23-2019 01:20 PM
Have you seen this colour walkout photo? I believe it was a launch day photo.
perineau Member
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posted 06-24-2019 04:04 AM
Yes, I have — thank you very much. At least we see two of the three crew members; I wonder what the heck Schirra was talking about, was it a fish "that was this big"?!?!
LM-12 Member
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posted 06-24-2019 07:29 AM
In that photo, it looks to me like Schirra is jokingly about to give Slayton a big bear hug. Also in that photo and the walkout photos to the transfer van that I have seen, a suit tech is carrying Schirra's POV (Portable Oxygen Ventilator).
Tom Member
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posted 06-24-2019 08:35 AM
It sure does. The only "hugs" I can remember with Apollo crew walkouts are Gene Cernan on Apollo 10 (astronaut secretary) and I believe Ron Evans (wife) on Apollo 17.
LM-12 Member
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posted 07-08-2019 10:33 AM
This photo shows a crew walkout from a different angle. Looks like Dick Gordon and Alan Bean on the Apollo 9 backup crew for the egress test.
LM-12 Member
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posted 07-18-2019 02:39 PM
quote:Originally posted by LM-12: I found some Camera 034 and Camera 007 footage...
Not seen in that clip: the elevator went up to the deck level of the ML platform and then back down to the Egress Door level.
oly Member
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posted 07-18-2019 10:27 PM
The elevator over-travel can be seen on the CBS remastered videotape of the Apollo 11 launch coverage.
Additionally, the workers tasked with repairing the liquid Hydrogen GSE leak can be seen working at the LUT 200 foot level while the crew were boarding the spacecraft.
LM-12 Member
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posted 07-19-2019 05:02 AM
That might explain the two pickup trucks parked near the elevator that the crew transfer van had to drive around, as seen from the Camera 034 location.
LM-12 Member
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posted 04-05-2020 07:06 PM
A series of photos from the Apollo 14 walkout taken from a side angle.
LM-12 Member
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posted 04-05-2020 07:48 PM
I wonder if that is a pedestrian crossing sign or an "astronaut crossing" sign behind Shepard in the first photo.
heng44 Member
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posted 04-06-2020 12:45 PM
LM-12 Member
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posted 09-27-2020 12:46 AM
quote:Originally posted by Tom: The only "hugs" I can remember with Apollo crew walkouts are Gene Cernan on Apollo 10 (astronaut secretary)...
Apollo 10 photo 69-H-801 has this caption:
Apollo 10 Commander Thomas P. Stafford pats nose of "Snoopy," mission mascot, held by Jamye Flowers, astronaut Gordon Cooper's secretary, as crew walks along hallway to transfer van for trip to Kennedy Space Center, Launch Complex 39B.
The crew were suited up and were coming back down the hallway [as] I was standing at the door of the crew quarters just inside with the Snoopy in my [arms]. Just right at the last minute Dave McBride gave me a push, and I ended up out in the hallway.
Stafford was right there, and he stopped briefly and patted Snoopy’s nose. That was a picture that defined that mission. Ended up doing so. I think Captain Young patted him when he went by. Out of the corner of my eye I could see Captain Cernan heading in my direction, and he was a man on a mission at that point. So I knew that I was in trouble. But he came and instead of patting Snoopy on the nose, he turned the prank into a gotcha on me, because he grabbed me and Snoopy and tried to get us in the elevator. So it ended up being that he was going to take Snoopy and me to the Moon if he could. But the picture itself was just—when you see Apollo 10, that’s the one everyone thinks about. Tom Stafford still says that that is one of his, if not his favorite photo.
LM-12 Member
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posted 09-28-2020 03:22 AM
Coplin mentions in the interview that the astronauts were placed into "five flights" with Carpenter the chief of Flight A, Cooper the chief of Flight B, Grissom the chief of Flight C, McDivitt the chief of Flight D, and Schirra the chief of Flight E.
Young was in Flight E. Armstrong and Aldrin were in Flight A. Into which "flights" were the other astronauts placed?
Marc05A Member
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posted 09-29-2020 04:48 AM
This is the Astronaut Office organization as of October 5th 1967.
Skylon Member
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posted 09-29-2020 07:36 AM
That is a fascinating organizational document. A few quick observations:
In spite of being on the "outs" with NASA brass, Gordo Cooper was still given leadership responsibilities within the Astronaut Office.
Flight C led by Jim Lovell, seems to be primarily made up of Group 4 and 5 Astronauts (excluding Dick Gordon - was he the equivalent of the XO?) - Coincidence?
Flight D is the only flight that contains a complete prime crew pre-Apollo 1 - McDivitt, Scott and Schweickart - still no doubt pointed at the first lunar module flight.
Flight F is obviously the 1967 Astronaut Group - interesting that Karl Heinze was its chief. No doubt owing to his seniority as a scientist, yet he along with Tony England would be the last of his group to fly.
Henry Heatherbank Member
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posted 09-29-2020 08:50 AM
That’s a fairly rudimentary list in the sense that it is divided up exactly alphabetically, aside from Flight F which, as has been noted, is the 1967 Excess-11 scientist astronaut group.
I guess Lovell got the leadership of Flight C (formerly Grissom because) of tragic circumstances,
LM-12 Member
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posted 09-29-2020 08:52 AM
An interesting look at the inner workings of the Astronaut Office from both the interview and the document.
Coplin also mentions that Young became the chief of Flight B after Apollo 10.
Henry Heatherbank Member
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posted 09-29-2020 08:57 AM
That’s a fairly rudimentary list in the sense that it is divided up exactly alphabetically, aside from the leaders and Flight F which, as has been noted, is the 1967 Excess-11 scientist astronaut group.
Delta7 Member
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posted 09-30-2020 05:10 PM
quote:Originally posted by LM-12: ...astronauts were placed into "five flights"
What was the purpose of these groups?
LM-12 Member
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posted 08-18-2021 09:00 AM
The Apollo 8 crew can be seen entering the Mobile Launcher Egress Door at 2:09 in this video. The picture quality is not good. Hard to tell who is who.
Unusual to see an astronaut (looks like Lovell in the clip) opening the Egress Door. You usually see someone else opening doors for the astronauts during a walkout. Perhaps a suit tech was supposed to exit the elevator first to open the door for the Apollo 8 astronauts.
A suit tech opened the Egress Door for the Apollo 13 astronauts.
LM-12 Member
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posted 11-16-2022 09:56 AM
Apollo 17 crew walkout photo for the CDDT on November 21, 1972.
LM-12 Member
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posted 11-27-2022 04:23 AM
There is a photo of the Apollo 1 crew walking out of the Flight Crew Training Building. The date might have been January 17, 1967. Here is the caption:
Grissom, front, White, and Chaffee, still inside, leave the Flight Crew Training Building on their way to Launch Complex 34 to meet with the media.
Headshot Member
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posted 11-27-2022 11:02 AM
There is an interesting full page image of the Apollo 7 crew walking from the transfer van to the launchpad in the book that was included with the To The Moon Time-Life Records set. The book is titled "To The Moon II: The Story in Pictures and Text." The image in on page 150.
heng44 Member
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posted 11-27-2022 12:56 PM
Here are the two photos mentioned above.
Image credit: Armando Oliu
NASA photo
LM-12 Member
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posted 11-27-2022 04:17 PM
Yes, that is the photo I was referring to. Thank you, Ed.
Headshot Member
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posted 11-27-2022 07:10 PM
Spot on! Thanks Ed.
LM-12 Member
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posted 01-08-2023 05:25 PM
There is this clip found on Twitter of the Apollo 12 crew walkout in 70mm from a very different perspective.
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posted 01-13-2023 09:23 PM
I count 10 people in the elevator.
Blackarrow Member
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posted 01-14-2023 09:27 PM
Who shot this footage in 70mm, and for what film? For instance, is this part of the 70mm footage that was used in the "Apollo 11" documentary?
I remember that the producers of that film said that they had extensive 70mm footage from post-Apollo 11 missions, and I have been wondering whether they intend to produce another film using that footage.
Robert Pearlman Editor
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posted 01-14-2023 09:46 PM
The footage was shot by filmmakers contracted by NASA, and yes, is from the same archive that was discovered in the National Archives and remastered for "Apollo 11." (The individual who posted the clip to Twitter was the archivist for the documentary.)
At this time, there is no news to share about future films or projects. Ultimately, all of the film, digitized and remastered, will be available for other filmmakers to use through the National Archives.
LM-12 Member
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posted 01-15-2023 09:40 AM
The person taking the 70mm footage was behind the fireman, but I don't see him in any of the crew walkout photos.
Captain Apollo Member
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posted 01-16-2023 11:16 AM
For Moonwalk One (source of much of the 65mm/70mm footage for Apollo 11) the director Theo Kamecke recalled that he used a wheelchair as a dolly in the shots of the launch center. The 65mm cameras were huge and heavy and usually on a tripod, though the operator Urs Furrer could carry the camera on the shoulder if necessary.
So perhaps that's why the cameraman can't be seen? The shots do look as if they are taken from chest height.
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posted 01-17-2023 01:33 AM
Some very interesting background information there. And it even shows the Apollo 11 astronauts leaving the same elevator.
LM-12 Member
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posted 01-17-2023 09:12 PM
I think you can actually see the 70mm camera being used during the Apollo 12 crew walkout at 46:52 into this compilation video of Apollo 8 and Apollo 12.
Captain Apollo Member
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posted 01-18-2023 10:41 AM
Yes - on the shoulder, so I was probably wrong about the wheelchair dolly. It's a monster.
LM-12 Member
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posted 01-29-2023 12:20 AM
It looks like the large NASA meatball insignia inside the elevator might not have been there back in 1969.
posted 06-23-2019 08:52 AM
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