Posts: 3351 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 06-18-2016 08:47 AM
Here is 16mm Magazine 1098-Y from the Apollo 10 Flight Journal.
The footage from about 1:39 to 2:43 seems to show the frames mentioned above. Notice that the white object seen at :50 is seen again at 2:23 and 2:43 in the film.
David Carey Member
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posted 06-18-2016 11:34 AM
From NASA image S70-35145, I'd never noticed the hand-drawn cartoon displayed on the monitor over Lunney's right shoulder, and to Kranz's left.
A smiling Lunar Module carries a wounded CSM safely home on a stretcher...
LM-12 Member
Posts: 3351 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 06-18-2016 12:19 PM
This Apollo 10 Flight Journal map shows the 1493 to 2056 and 3604 to 5614 frames from 16mm Magazine Y that were plotted.
YankeeClipper Member
Posts: 622 From: Dublin, Ireland Registered: Mar 2011
posted 06-18-2016 01:56 PM
quote:Originally posted by David Carey: A smiling Lunar Module carries a wounded CSM safely home on a stretcher...
Drawn by someone's son or daughter?
LM-12 Member
Posts: 3351 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 06-12-2018 08:40 AM
Apollo 9 commander Jim McDivitt can be seen in the lunar module pilot window behind what looks like the window shade in EVA photo AS09-20-3067 that was taken by Rusty Schweickart.
oly Member
Posts: 1020 From: Perth, Western Australia Registered: Apr 2015
posted 06-12-2018 09:29 AM
While not a photo, the 16mm DAC film shows that Buzz Aldrin can be seen in reflection on the Lunar Module window as Neil Armstrong takes the Giant Leap.
Buzz looks to be too busy to stop and watch what is happening outside.
oly Member
Posts: 1020 From: Perth, Western Australia Registered: Apr 2015
posted 06-12-2018 10:07 AM
quote:Originally posted by LM-12: You can see that 16mm camera and attached magazine...
For the life of me I cannot see the film magazine attached to the camera in this shot.
posted 06-12-2018 10:18 AM
Did they know they left it on the surface before liftoff? That would've driven me crazy. Too bad they couldn't retrieve it... I know the reasons why, it's just frustrating.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 3351 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 06-12-2018 10:39 AM
quote:Originally posted by oly: I cannot see the film magazine...
The DAC magazine on the camera on the MET has red and blue stickers on top, like the Apollo 12 DAC magazine seen in this photo.
oly Member
Posts: 1020 From: Perth, Western Australia Registered: Apr 2015
posted 06-12-2018 11:09 AM
Got it, Thank you. It breaks my heart seeing that Hasselblad left sitting on the MET.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 3351 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 06-12-2018 11:15 AM
McDivitt and Schweickart had to switch places in the LM so Schweickart could exit the forward hatch.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 3351 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 06-12-2018 09:16 PM
The photo of McDivitt in the LM window might have been taken around 73:18 GET when he said to Schweickart:
How about getting over by the other window? That one's in the shade.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 3351 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 06-17-2018 09:27 PM
Photo AS14-64-9095 might be another image of the DAC magazine that was left behind on the moon. It was taken at Station B1.
The ALSJ identifies the DAC magazine left behind as Magazine HH, saying that it was loaded onto the 16mm camera on the MET at the LM before they headed out on EVA-2, and not turned on until they were near Station F.
But the 16mm may have been turned on even earlier. From the mission transcripts, between Station C1 and Station C2:
CC: Roger, Al. And do you have anything left on the 16-millimeter or has it been running on the MET.
SHEPARD: No, it hasn't. We might turn it on now - follow the progress.
CC: Roger, Al.
SHEPARD: Is it running now?
MITCHELL: Yes.
SHEPARD: Have you checked the setting on it?
MITCHELL: Yes, I did.
The EVA-2 transcript does not seem to indicate that the 16mm DAC was ever turned off after that.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 3351 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 06-20-2018 05:36 AM
It looks like McDivitt can also be seen in the window in photo AS-09-21-3206 taken after the LM undocked.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 3351 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 11-10-2018 08:16 AM
The protective cover on the SLA was coming apart when the Apollo 6 stack reached Pad 39A after rollout on February 6, 1968.
oly Member
Posts: 1020 From: Perth, Western Australia Registered: Apr 2015
posted 06-10-2019 09:53 PM
This post flight inspection photo shows the severed umbilical lines and cables of the command module after experiencing the heat of re-entry.
Blackarrow Member
Posts: 3174 From: Belfast, United Kingdom Registered: Feb 2002
posted 11-06-2019 08:32 PM
quote:Originally posted by oly: It breaks my heart seeing that Hasselblad left sitting on the MET.
Do we know how many lunar surface Hasselblads were brought back to Earth? I know of at least one (from Apollo 17).
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 43749 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 11-06-2019 08:39 PM
As best known, four: Alan Shepard's from Apollo 14, Jim Irwin's from Apollo 15 and both Gene Cernan's and Jack Schmitt's from Apollo 17.
Blackarrow Member
Posts: 3174 From: Belfast, United Kingdom Registered: Feb 2002
posted 11-07-2019 11:06 AM
Thanks, Robert.
dsenechal Member
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posted 11-07-2019 11:59 AM
quote:Originally posted by LM-12: Apollo 9 commander Jim McDivitt can be seen...
Rather than a picture of McDivitt, this appears to be a reflection of Schweickart with his gold visor up. Sort of a reflective selfie. Note that the image of the spacesuit extends beyond the inside window frame. Also, the NASA suit patch is reversed, as it would be in a reflection.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 3351 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 11-07-2019 01:22 PM
To me, it still looks like McDivitt inside the LM, with his right shoulder closest to the window and his head turned to the right.
Would Schweickart's neck ring be exposed like that on an EVA? It was covered.
perineau Member
Posts: 258 From: FRANCE Registered: Jul 2007
posted 11-08-2019 09:34 AM
Just an unrelated thought: I wonder after his two missions Gemini 4 and Apollo 9, if it bothered McDivitt that he never got to do an EVA himself!
LM-12 Member
Posts: 3351 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 11-30-2019 01:10 AM
Photo S66-46237 shows the Gemini 10 spacecraft docked with Agena 5005 on orbit 12, with Agena 5003 in the distance.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 3351 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 12-09-2019 01:55 AM
quote:Originally posted by LM-12: The Station 6 pan taken by Jack Schmitt includes three photos that show a bright object in the sky just above the horizon ... Since the CM was approaching LOS shortly after the pan was taken, those white dots in the sky might be the CM flying over Cernan and Schmitt at Station 6.
Here are some approximate GET times for the three photos:
frame 141-21592 (white dot at center and low above horizon) ... 164:59 GET frame 141-21596 (white dot at right and higher above horizon) ... 164:59 GET frame 141-21600 (white dot at far right and low above horizon) ... 165:00 GET
The CSM in orbit was approaching LOS at 165:03 GET.
One Big Monkey Member
Posts: 172 From: West Yorkshire, UK Registered: Jul 2012
posted 12-09-2019 12:34 PM
It's tempting, but I'm not sure about the timings.
For example, while they are at station 7 the CMP is on rev 40, and we have this observation during that orbit:
163:38 CC "Are you getting the landing site into view now?"
CMP "I got it in window 2"
That orbit's AOS was at 163:13, and the last message before LOS was 164:23, so Evans was flying over the landing site much nearer AOS than LOS.
Taurus-Littrow is some distance from either event, so I wouldn't put any CSM images as being near the LOS time.
(The times I quote above are from the transcript, and don't reflect the adjustment to the timings made as a result of the delay in lift off.)
LM-12 Member
Posts: 3351 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 12-09-2019 01:42 PM
I see your point with the example you mentioned. Thanks for that. The CSM would have been much further west in its orbit when those Station 6 photos were taken.
As mentioned earlier, the Apollo 12 CSM was spotted by Conrad and Bean from the lunar surface. But I haven't seen anything to indicate they photographed it.
It is still possible that a CSM overflight was caught by chance in a photograph taken from the lunar surface. I'll keep searching.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 3351 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 12-10-2019 10:49 AM
How about this one: Dave Scott took an ALSEP pan on EVA-2 when the CSM flew over the landing site.
From the TEC transcripts:
148:02:25 Scott: Okay, my pan -- out of the way real quick.
From the CSM transcripts:
148:02:43 Henize: I have you coming up on Hadley, right - Well, you just passed Hadley, I guess.
148:02:50 Worden: Yes, that's right. I'm just going over Archimedes right now.
And what looks like a moving white dot seen in these pan photos:
AS15-92-12420 ... white dot above Hill 305
AS15-92-12421 ... white dot above Hill 305 farther right
AS15-92-12422 ... white dot farther right
AS15-92-12423 ... white dot farther right
AS15-92-12424 ... Irwin digging a trench
LM-12 Member
Posts: 3351 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 12-11-2019 07:06 AM
quote:Originally posted by LM-12: As mentioned earlier, the Apollo 12 CSM was spotted by Conrad and Bean from the lunar surface.
That was between the lunar landing and EVA-1.
Conrad saw the CSM overhead again between the end of EVA-2 and lunar liftoff:
139:49:32 CC: Intrepid, Houston. Go.
139:49:37 CDR: Has Yankee gone overhead yet?
139:49:43 CC: Not yet, Pete.
139:49:48 CDR: Give me an overhead time, so I can watch him go by.
...
139:51:01 CC: Intrepid, Houston. Clipper should be overhead at 140:04:10.
...
140:06:16 CDR: Houston, Intrepid. We had a visual on him although I couldn't talk to him on VHF.
140:06:25 CC: Intrepid, Houston. Roger.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 3351 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 12-15-2019 10:10 AM
About two hours before lunar liftoff, Cernan and Schmitt talked about possibly seeing the CSM flying overhead:
Cernan: You might be able to. It's awful glary though. He'll be well sunlit up there.
Schmitt: I doubt it.
One Big Monkey Member
Posts: 172 From: West Yorkshire, UK Registered: Jul 2012
posted 01-02-2020 01:06 PM
Here's a wonderful detail from AS11-36-5308, taken after TLI but before extraction of the LM. It shows cloud spirals caused by air flow around the island of Guadalupe, also known as von Karman vortex streets.
LM-12 Member
Posts: 3351 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
posted 05-09-2020 12:24 AM
Most have seen photo 66-HC-1476 that shows the Gemini 11 launch with AS-500F on Pad 39A in the background. If you look closely, you can also see AS-500F in the distant background in another photo of the Gemini 11 launch.
posted 06-18-2016 05:27 AM
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