Posts: 132 From: Palm Harbor, FL 34684 Registered: Nov 1999
posted 02-18-2002 08:44 PM
It was 40 years ago today (Feb. 18, 2002) and preparations were going at a fast pace for the launch of John Glenn on the MA-6 (Atlas missile 109-D).
I had been working very long hours with a bunch of very dedicated people trying to have a successful launch. I was in charge of Atlas Telemetry Quality, Telemetry Data processing and Evaluation at Hangar J on Cape Canaveral.
I had graduated from the University of Florida in Electrical Engineering three and a half years earlier and was 32 years of age. At 32, I was four years older than the average employee.
One disadvantage of the work I did was that we had to be on station for the pre-countdown telemetry checkout and stay after launch to get the +6 hour report out. This kept me away from the launch parties, I am probably better off now but at the time I hated missing the parties.
I feel very fortunate to have had the opportunity to be a part of this event.
Ed beck Member
Posts: 227 From: Florida Registered: Aug 2000
posted 02-18-2002 10:28 PM
WOW! What a thrill that must have been. What other manned flights were you associated with?
astronut Member
Posts: 969 From: South Fork, CO Registered: Mar 2000
posted 02-19-2002 12:24 AM
Richard, we appreciate your hard work and contributions to America's space program!
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 48135 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 02-19-2002 04:52 AM
I've known Richard for several years now and never knew his role in space history! Having briefly spoken with you last night, I can only look forward to hearing more of your experiences -- how amazingly cool!
Congratulations Richard for 40 years since you helped make U.S. orbital flights possible and successful!
bruce Member
Posts: 927 From: Fort Mill, SC, USA Registered: Aug 2000
posted 02-19-2002 09:45 AM
Thanks for your great work and dedication Richard!
Richard Jackson Member
Posts: 132 From: Palm Harbor, FL 34684 Registered: Nov 1999
posted 02-20-2002 05:47 PM
Thanks to everyone who took the time to read these messages!
As stated I was only one of many dedicated people that worked very hard to make the launch a success.
My wife, Nancy, and I were talking about how to describe the emotions in Cocoa Beach, Florida February 20, 1962 after the launch. I could not think of the proper words to describe it but she related the story of taking her 6th grade students to the beach to watch the launch. After liftoff she was not prepared to handle the tears that flowed from the students. The United States had taken a major step in the space race.
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 48135 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 02-19-2010 09:01 PM
NASA Television feature
Friendship 7: Opening a New Era in Space
Forty-eight years ago, on Feb. 20, 1962, NASA astronaut John Glenn became the first American to orbit the Earth when an Atlas rocket successfully carried his Friendship 7 capsule into space. Glenn's three orbits of the planet ushered in a new era in space travel, paving the way for the Apollo astronauts to walk on the moon.
dss65 Member
Posts: 1288 From: Sandpoint, ID, USA Registered: Mar 2003
posted 02-19-2010 09:13 PM
Oh, what a magical day. I was barely 10 years old, but I remember it well. When heroes were still heroes — and still are to this day!
J.L Member
Posts: 690 From: Bloomington, Illinois, USA Registered: May 2005
posted 02-19-2010 10:41 PM
Absolutely! I got quite acquainted with National Geographic after that flight. As I continue putting together image discs from each of the manned missions, I wanted to mention that MA-6 is just around the corner. It has been great fun reviewing images from the 1961-62 era... when space was king. It still amazes me that on February 23, 1962, President Kennedy and Vice President Johnson were both at the Cape to bestow congrats upon Col. Glenn. How times have changed.
micropooz Member
Posts: 1625 From: Washington, DC, USA Registered: Apr 2003
posted 02-20-2010 05:45 AM
I was in kindergarten then, and had not yet caught the space bug. I remember getting home from school and the spaceflight was still on TV, pre-empting my afternoon cartoons. Boy, was I torqued off!
I didn't catch the space bug until Cooper's flight in May, 1963.
space1 Member
Posts: 911 From: Danville, Ohio Registered: Dec 2002
posted 02-20-2010 06:04 AM
I was in kindergarten, too! We all sat still and listened to the launch over the school P.A. system. At one point my teacher, Mrs. Wescott, exclaimed, "Those rockets go so fast!" At the start of Gemini flights I was old enough to more fully appreciate what was happening - and follow it like a hawk.
idrvball Member
Posts: 150 From: Burke, VA USA Registered: Mar 2009
posted 02-20-2010 08:58 AM
I had an interesting conversation with a friend of mine just the other day.
He wasn't born during Glenn's flight or Shepard's, so he didn't live it... I was only 2 so I had trouble answering it. But he asked me why Glenn seems to be so much better known, historically, than Shepard.
He said he remembered learning and hearing more about Glenn growing up. He thought since Shepard was the first American to fly in space, Shepard should "trump" Glenn in being remembered.
posted 02-20-2010 09:47 AM
A few possible reasons:
The orbital flight was longer and involved more piloting skill and thus more dramatic in the public eye.
Glenn was more of an American hero-type than Shepard's personality.
His is in the spotlight more due to his political career and that he has lived longer.
Michael Davis Member
Posts: 549 From: Houston, Texas Registered: Aug 2002
posted 02-20-2010 11:53 AM
The reasons for Glenn gaining such popularity instead of Shepard is pretty well represented in The Right Stuff -both the book and the movie. By the time of Shepard's flight, Yuri Gagarin had already orbited the earth for the Soviets. Shepard's 15 minute non-orbital ballistic flight was important, but clearly did not reach the same level of success as the Russians had already demonstrated.
Glenn's orbital flight appeared to get the U.S. back in the game. Plus, there was the drama of the possibility of a detached heat shield on Glenn's flight which added to his hero status. Glenn's flight was seen as a turning point in the U.S. space program. And his personality did not hurt the resulting image as an all American hero. The movie The Right Stuff shows Shepard swearing that he'll go to the moon when he feels snubbed by Glenn receiving more public adulation than he did.
kking Member
Posts: 106 From: Topmost, KY Registered: Nov 2002
posted 02-20-2010 08:15 PM
Godspeed John Glenn.
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 48135 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 02-20-2010 11:15 PM
quote:Originally posted by dss65: When heroes were still heroes -- and still are to this day!
I asked space shuttle program deputy manager and mission management chair LeRoy Cain to comment on the state of the United States' on-orbit capabilities in light of today being the 48th anniversary of the first American orbital spaceflight. Here is what he said...
We have tremendous capability on orbit. If you look at the space station, I think a lot of people don't really realize what we have in orbit and how it got there. At the same time I would tell you that we are still in our infancy relative to working even in low Earth orbit.
I have mentioned this before, this team from coast to coast and the international team where the space station is concerned, if you look at the shuttle missions alone, if you look at the shuttle-station docked missions, we've gotten to the point where the performance of the vehicles is so good and the team understands the job and the tasks and the preparation is so good that we make it look easy. The team makes it look easy, to the extent that it concerns me because then people actually begin to think it is easy and that couldn't be farther from the truth.
It takes an extreme amount of vigilance to be able to pull off these missions: The preparation of the team as individuals and organizationally, the training that is required; the planning that is required to put together the time lines and the execution of the mission; and then you have all the hardware preparation, the payloads, the cargo, not to mention the vehicle flight elements, the orbiters, the SRBs and RSRMS, and the tanks, all of that coming together in Florida a couple of months before the launch, and being assembled and processed and rolled out and checked out; the teams on the ground with their respective training and planning and preparation that they go through -- it is highly complex. It takes the type of team we have right now, a highly professional, very talented, very, very dedicated, extremely resilient team to be able to do this and we have a team like that right now and you see that demonstrated pretty clear in these missions that we have executed over the past several years.
But it isn't easy and it is not routine by any means and we have a long way to go I think as a space-faring nation, as a space-faring population if you will, before anything becomes routine, whether it is low Earth orbit or beyond. So, it is all kind of relative. Certainly we have made great strides and I think we are extremely proud of the space station. I think in a lot of ways it will be one of the, if not the premiere legacy of the space shuttle, the space station will certainly be a significant part of the legacy of the space shuttle. Folks that have worked on station and shuttle are extremely proud of that, as well they should be.
But we have some work left to do and everyday we are here we are focused on the challenges that are associated with that work and then we get to enjoy the successes that we have from one mission to the next. As I said earlier, we're very focused on getting Endeavour home safely, and that it won't be very long after that that we will be very focused on getting Discovery put together and launched back to space station and then the mission after that and so on and so forth. But it's not routine.
art540 Member
Posts: 432 From: Orange, California USA Registered: Sep 2006
posted 02-23-2010 10:11 AM
I followed the launch on my transistor radio that day while on KP duty at Fort Monmouth. I was really nervous - having followed the successes and failures of the US missile and space programs for 4 years. Was I happy that Atlas 109D did it's job so well. The safe re-entry and recovery completed the day in grand style.
Jay Chladek Member
Posts: 2272 From: Bellevue, NE, USA Registered: Aug 2007
posted 02-23-2010 01:15 PM
Another thing about Glenn is he was also in the public spotlight as a test pilot since he participated in Project Bullet a few years previously. It was a Navy/Marine corps attempt to set a record from coast to coast with an RF-8 Crusader. Glenn was the lead pilot on that project.
He also tended to understand best the need for good public affairs, so he seemed to work best with the cameras when the other guys took some time to warm to their newly appointed "rock star" status. As such, more people in the media seemed to consider Glenn the voice of the Mercury astronauts (whether or not that was his real role).
Steve Smith Member
Posts: 503 From: Wichita, Kansas, USA Registered: Mar 2002
posted 02-23-2010 02:05 PM
Glenn was also in the public eye before being named to Mercury 7.
As noted above he was on the Transcontinental record trip but shortly after was on several episodes of "Name That Tune" with Eddy Hodges who becanme a Broadway Child Star.
This was a very popular program and I knew well of Glenn from that.
As far as being a "Star" figure, let me illustrate. In the summer of 1963 (JFK's last summer) I was a Summer Intern at the Naval Research Lab in Washington DC. Each week several thousand summer student interns were bused from all over to downtown DC to hear a variety of public figures including Averell Harriman, Bobby Kennedy, Adali Stevenson, a few others and finally JFK on the South Lawn of the White House. Heady times, but the bigeest deal was hearing John Glenn!!!
I still have the newspaper clipping from the Post covering his speech. I sent it to Mr Glenn a few yers ago and he autograpjhed it. A prize possession.
I think people admire his clean cut image. Especialy after reading his Autobiography I catergorize him as a "Boy Scout" (btw he was an Eagle) which is one of my highest compliments I give.
Fezman92 Member
Posts: 1031 From: New Jersey, USA Registered: Mar 2010
posted 02-15-2012 08:38 AM
Did anyone catch the New York Times article for the 50th anniversary?
In the winter of 1962, the nation needed a hero.
Americans had yet to recover from the Soviet Union's launching of the first spacecraft, Sputnik, in October 1957 — a rude jolt to our confidence as world leaders in all things technological. The space race was on.
Soon after he took office in 1961, President John F. Kennedy had thrown down the challenge to send men to the Moon by the end of the decade. But the Russians still set the pace, boastfully. They launched a dog into orbit, then the first man, Yuri A. Gagarin, and another, Gherman S. Titov.
The United States lagged, managing only two 15-minute suborbital astronaut flights — only five minutes of weightlessness each time.
Then, on Feb. 20, 1962 — 50 years ago next Monday — a Marine Corps fighter pilot from small-town America stepped forward in response to the country's need. The astronaut was John Glenn, whom the author Tom Wolfe has called "the last true national hero America has ever had."
Rusty B Member
Posts: 239 From: Sacramento, CA Registered: Oct 2004
posted 02-15-2012 09:49 AM
Since Gagarin, Shepard, Grissom and Titov have all passed on, John Glenn is the first space traveler to be around to celebrate the 50th anniversary of his mission. It looks like Scott Carpenter will also be here to celebrate the 50th anniversary of his mission.
posted 02-15-2012 07:55 PM
I'm having my US History classes do an extra credit project on MA-6, complete with visuals and discussions.
ejectr Member
Posts: 1890 From: Killingly, CT Registered: Mar 2002
posted 02-16-2012 06:23 AM
I was 12 years old... "almost 13". We had no school that day because of a snow storm. Having held my breath through all the other scrubs, God granted my wish to be home from school to watch it. I hung on every word and scene.
One thing I strongly remember was my father owned a small, two man heavy construction equipment (bulldozers) repair business and had a shop in the back yard. He was an immigrant from Germany and got his citizenship during WWII after being in the country illegally having "jumped ship" off a four masted square rigger from the German Merchant Marine back in the early 1920's. The term "illegal alien" has a different meaning for me.
He came into the house to watch the launch just before liftoff. As I sat there absolutely mesmerized at the launch unfolding on the black and white TV screen in our living room, the excitement and hopes of this normally quiet unassuming man could not be contained as he sat there cheerfully saying as the rocket reached for the heavens... "go... go baby go"!
I'll never forget it. Here was a man who traveled a long, difficult path to become an American and he couldn't have been prouder to be one on that glorious day.
Gilbert Member
Posts: 1435 From: Carrollton, GA USA Registered: Jan 2003
posted 02-16-2012 09:38 AM
I remember the flight although I didn't get to see it live (I was at school). But I remember the aftermath even more. Glenn's flight was a big deal. All the adults I knew were talking about it, which in my young mind was a great thing.
Fezman92 Member
Posts: 1031 From: New Jersey, USA Registered: Mar 2010
posted 02-16-2012 10:01 AM
My parents were born that year...
Space Cadet Carl Member
Posts: 281 From: Lake Orion, MI Registered: Feb 2006
posted 02-16-2012 12:26 PM
In 1962, we were about the first people on our street in Royal Oak, Michigan to have an RCA New Vista color television console in our living room. I remember watching John Glenn's launch live in good old black and white... then later we watched a recap of the flight in glorious color.
I vividly recall seeing brilliant orange flames bursting from underneath the Atlas booster during a documentary of Glenn's launch. Great memories.
Glint Member
Posts: 1072 From: New Windsor, Maryland USA Registered: Jan 2004
posted 02-16-2012 01:17 PM
Friendship 7 was the first manned spaceflight I can remember.
I was a year away from Kindergarten. My mom said I was holding a toy rocket high in the air all day asking every now and then, "Did he spashdown yet?" Had the old arm up there even through lunch. Didn't bring it down until the mission was over.
Funny how the final scene of the video shows Glenn and Carpenter's images with a Redstone launch rising off the pad in the background -- a vehicle ridden by neither man.
Rusty B Member
Posts: 239 From: Sacramento, CA Registered: Oct 2004
posted 02-17-2012 02:27 AM
Saw this posted on another website. It's a link to Archive.org's Friendship 7 air to ground audio files.
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 48135 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
Fifty years ago Monday (Feb. 20), John Glenn made history circling the Earth three times.
He wasn't the first person in space, nor the first American. He wasn't even the first person to orbit the planet. But Glenn's five-hour flight onboard Friendship 7 set him apart from the space travelers who launched before him and established a lasting legacy that outshone many of those who followed.
For half a century, the world has applauded John Glenn as a heart-stirring American hero. He lifted the nation's spirits when, as one of the original Mercury 7 astronauts, he was blasted alone into orbit around the Earth; the enduring affection for him is so powerful that even now people find themselves misting up at the sight of his face or the sound of his voice.
But for all these years, Glenn has had a hero of his own, someone who he has seen display endless courage of a different kind:
Annie Glenn.
DChudwin Member
Posts: 1120 From: Lincolnshire IL USA Registered: Aug 2000
posted 02-19-2012 04:44 PM
John and Annie Glenn were high school sweethearts who were married April 6, 1943.
What a blessing it is to have them both with us after nearly 69 years of marriage.
moorouge Member
Posts: 2486 From: U.K. Registered: Jul 2009
posted 02-20-2012 02:31 AM
Lessons were suspended in the afternoon and my classes listened to the VOA coverage of the launch.
Over a year later I took some of those pupils to the US Embassy in London by special invitation to see the first UK showing of a film of the flight. I'd like to say that it made a huge impression on their young minds but, as I discovered at a school reunion some thirty years later, the lasting memory they had was being able to sign the Book of Condolence for JFK who had been assassinated just a week before.
Gilbert Member
Posts: 1435 From: Carrollton, GA USA Registered: Jan 2003
posted 02-20-2012 06:59 AM
I experienced a pleasant surprise this morning driving to work. The DJ on 92.9 FM (rock music) out of Atlanta gave some teasers about a major anniversary today. Surprise, it was the John Glenn launch!
The DJ was obviously not alive 50 years ago but he proceeded to talk accurately and passionately about Gagarin, Shepard, and Grissom. He described Glenn's launch vehicle, flight, and Friendship 7 in detail and elaborated for maybe 90 seconds (an eternity on morning radio). Then he played two space themed rock songs.
When he came back he started talking to "youngsters" about why space exploration was such a big deal 50 years ago and should be today. He recommended they read about the Space Race and if they didn't want to read then watch The Right Stuff, Apollo 13, and From the Earth to the Moon. He talked about the TV, newspapers, and magazine coverage and the parade. He talked about Glenn's shuttle flight.
His only mistake was he attributed the "Godspeed John Glenn" quote to Shepard rather than Carpenter. Needless to say I drove in to work with a big smile on my face.
spaceman1953 Member
Posts: 953 From: South Bend, IN Registered: Apr 2002
posted 02-20-2012 01:24 PM
"One of my fondest memories of John Glenn's flight came from a box of Red Ball Jets," Don Pettit, one of two NASA astronauts now on board the International Space Station (ISS), told collectSPACE. "Red Ball Jets were a particular brand of tennis shoes that kids loved to wear. They had a little red sticker on the side that would fall off after about the first week, but they were really cool shoes."
"In this particular box of Red Ball Jets was one of these really flimsy vacuum formed records. And that record was a soundtrack recording of John Glenn describing what the Earth looked like during one of his orbits. I remember that as a kid," Pettit said.
Okay, I get to add something meaningful to the 50th anniversary celebration... Red Ball Jets! Made in Mishawaka, Indiana at Ball Band!
While I don't remember "the little sticker" that fell off from the side after a week or two that was observed in the article, the Red Ball Jets I remember had a little red rubber ball emblem/logo as part of the shoe on the back. I think it shows up on that booklet shown in the article.
I remember the booklet clearly and the little plastic 45-rpm sized record that came bound in the booklet, like the Apollo 11 record more of you are familiar with in the National Geographic issue of December, 1969.
The Ball Band record was white. The back of the Ball Band booklet had pictures of the Original Seven astronauts on it.
Man, if you were a kid in South Bend-Mishawaka in the 50's and 60's you HAD to have a pair of Red Ball Jets!
Happy Anniversary Col. Glenn and Mrs. Glenn, who I had a distinct privilege of meeting in South Bend in 1972. Talk about seeming like two weeks ago!
onesmallstep Member
Posts: 1327 From: Staten Island, New York USA Registered: Nov 2007
posted 02-21-2012 11:16 AM
Over the weekend, C-SPAN3 'American History TV' ran a block of space-themed programming that included Glenn's 40th-anniversary lecture at the National Air and Space Museum in 2002; the 1963 NASA film "The John Glenn Story" and a Universal newsreel report on his flight.
Among the amusing anecdotes Glenn recalled in his National Air and Space Museum lecture was the letter mailed to him by a grade schooler who was writing a bio on an historical figure, adding at the end that (paraphrasing) "...you are the only one alive; please respond as soon as possible." Glenn then said his reply was the fastest one on record!
He also took out a memento of his flight, a mouse toy dangling on the end of a string. Comic Bill Dana, known for his Jose Jimenez "reluctant astronaut" routine back then, often thought of himself as a "leetle mouse" sitting atop a massive rocket. Glenn said the prank had Al Shepard's name all over it.
Although I have never met Col. Glenn, I did meet his close friend and backup, Scott Carpenter, and was humbled to know a true pioneer who, like Glenn and the early Soviet cosmonauts, blazed a trail in space for all those who followed.
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 48135 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 02-21-2012 11:26 AM
quote:Originally posted by onesmallstep: He also took out a memento of his flight, a mouse toy dangling on the end of a string.
Glenn spoke about the little mouse in my recent interview with him. I had originally planned an article about it, but there wasn't enough content to develop the story.
We had little practical jokes that were going on back and forth between the astronauts, the seven of us at that time.
Al Shepard — I had been his backup and put some stuff [in his spacecraft] before the suborbital flight — and when I got up and hit orbit and reached over and pulled the Velcro fastener that kept some of the equipment held down during launch, the first thing that came floating up out of there was a little felt mouse.
Just a tiny little felt mouse about two inches long, with a huge long tail, about a foot long tail. And the foot long tail was tied down inside the case. And I knew who did it, I knew Al Shepard had done that.
I still have that little mouse.
Jay Chladek Member
Posts: 2272 From: Bellevue, NE, USA Registered: Aug 2007
posted 02-21-2012 12:33 PM
Last night I popped in my copy of Spacecraft Films Project Mercury to watch the Friendship 7 flight coverage. It was pretty cool seeing those candid recordings from before, during and after the flight. One thing that struck me a bit was the preparation for reentry as Glenn's facial expression when he was told to leave the retro-pack on after retrofire (the pack wasn't to be jettisoned until maybe 20 minutes after retrofire) and then he was finally told the reason for it by Al.
It was a different expression from what he had at liftoff as his eyes looked a little wider and a bit more at attention (like the look a pilot gets when he knows he has to concentrate). I might not necessarily say it was "fear" but it was a look of concern about things.
The footage of Glenn's recovery on the USS Noa was also nice. Here you've got a ship which is part of the recovery forces, but they maybe aren't expecting to be the ones tasked with the recovery since they are on the northern edge of the recovery zone. But, Friendship 7 comes plopping down nearby and they have to go pick him up. You can tell it certainly made the sailors' day when they realized they were going to be more of a part of history than just being on the fringes of it since destroyer assignments don't command the prestige of a big ship like a carrier. Seeing Glenn just lounging around on a chair near the fantail waiting for helicopter pickup to take him to the carrier was pretty neat as well. He sort of looked like a passenger on a cruise ship, just enjoying a quiet moment before the hustle and bustle began again.
For me, this footage made the whole experience seem more real to me. I would love to sit on a couch somewhere and watch it with Mr. Glenn to get his thoughts at the moment (sort of like a running DVD commentary).
Rusty B Member
Posts: 239 From: Sacramento, CA Registered: Oct 2004
posted 02-21-2012 04:21 PM
Here's an interesting newspaper article about John Glenn before he was selected as an astronaut. In July 1957 he set a trans-continental speed record in an F8U Crusader jet of 3 hours and 23 minutes.
Headshot Member
Posts: 1060 From: Vancouver, WA, USA Registered: Feb 2012
posted 02-20-2016 08:37 AM
Congratulations to John Glenn on the 54th anniversary of his truly historical orbital flight. He made America proud as hell that day and has continued doing so every day since then.
schnappsicle Member
Posts: 407 From: Houston, TX, USA Registered: Jan 2012
posted 02-23-2016 07:34 AM
One of my biggest regrets in life is that I was living in Germany during the days of Mercury. My Dad was in the Air Force and we didn't have a TV the entire 4 years we were out of the country. My family moved to Florida in December, 1963. I was in the 2nd grade at the time. I first found out that people had gone into space a year and a half later, just before the Gemini 4 mission. Yes, I completely missed Gemini 3.
The Mercury astronauts have always been my heroes. They were the ones who found out that their eyes would stay in their sockets during weightlessness. They were the ones who found out that it was possible to eat and swallow in space. They were the ones who found out that it was possible to survive liftoff and reentry. It was all new and they handled it like the heroes that they are.