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Topic: 290292824824: Biggest framing markup ever?
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Member Posts: 3110
From: Paris, France
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 01-30-2009 06:43 AM
   
I knew framing could be expensive but this could be the biggest markup ever.An inscribed Walt Cunningham photo, an AB Emblem patch, a bronze medallion, and a printed bio. Total resale value? Maybe $20. But-It-Now price: $2500. Get bidding! |
gliderpilotuk
Member Posts: 3398
From: London, UK
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 01-30-2009 09:10 AM
Plus shipping to UK is $421.33 and not a cent less!Keep me away from the keyboard. |
garymilgrom
Member Posts: 1966
From: Atlanta, GA
Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 01-30-2009 11:19 AM
I agree that this is overpriced but the description does say museum quality framing. I know of only one framer who offers true museum quality glass, and it is a lot more expensive than conservation quality glass, let alone plain glass.I've used museum quality glass on several items and it is amazing - it seems totally invisible. You have to warn people not to reach into a shadow box that appears to have no glass. It is easy to spend $5-600 getting largish items framed at this quality level. |
Spacefest
Member Posts: 1168
From: Tucson, AZ
Registered: Jan 2009
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posted 01-30-2009 12:43 PM
Conservation glass can run as high as $500 a sheet wholesale, but if it breaks, or you make a mistake cutting it, you're SOL. It's overkill. Non-glare UV plexiglas is lighter, MUCH less expensive, shippable, and almost as good. |
Joel Katzowitz
Member Posts: 808
From: Marietta GA USA
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 01-30-2009 07:38 PM
I'm not sure I agree with you Kim. Plexiglas is not really flat so you may get some surface distortion. I also believe Plexiglas can out-gas which is probably not what you want for an archival presentation.I've seen museum quality glass, and as Gary stated, it's amazing. It is expensive especially when you factor in how far Gary had to drive to get it. Sorry Gary, I couldn't resist. |
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Member Posts: 3110
From: Paris, France
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 01-31-2009 05:24 AM
Do you really believe this piece has been framed using museum quality glass? Personally I would be very surprised. |
MoonCrater1
Member Posts: 85
From: Queens, NY, USA
Registered: Nov 2008
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posted 01-31-2009 06:05 AM
The starting price is $950 and there are no bids. Anyone can put anything they want as a "Buy It Now" price. That doesn't mean that it is worth that price. I do not see any mention of museum quality glass. Why would anyone do that anyway? With all due respect, this is not the Shroud of Turin.I like the album of all the framed autographed photos for $30 that is also available. |
Spacefest
Member Posts: 1168
From: Tucson, AZ
Registered: Jan 2009
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posted 01-31-2009 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by Joel Katzowitz:
Plexiglas is not really flat so you may get some surface distortion. I also believe Plexiglas can out-gas which is probably not what you want for an archival presentation.
I think you're thinking of styrene, Joel which is so thin it sags. Outgassing is a minor problem with some foamcore backings. You don't have to believe a 40 year framer, google it: OP3 Cyro UV plexiglass. |
Joel Katzowitz
Member Posts: 808
From: Marietta GA USA
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 02-01-2009 08:23 AM
Kim, thanks for teaching an old dog a new trick. As you suggested, I did some research and my next archival framing project will definitely feature OP3 Cyro UV acrylic. |
garymilgrom
Member Posts: 1966
From: Atlanta, GA
Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 02-01-2009 03:33 PM
Kim can you comment on museum quality vs. conservation quality? For instance the acrylic you recommend says it cuts 98% of UV - does glass cut more? Less?A Google search brings up the following (paraphrased): "My favorite framing glass is Tru-Vue Museum Glass which is both anti-reflection coated and has complete UV protection. This glass is so clear that you just might walk right through it if presented with a glassed over doorway." Thanks Kim. Joel, driving is a pleasure when you have enough NASA decals on your car. |
Spacefest
Member Posts: 1168
From: Tucson, AZ
Registered: Jan 2009
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posted 02-01-2009 09:40 PM
The terms "museum" "archival" and "conservation" are all used interchangeably
and loosely by everyone. Everyone seems to have their own definition, so buyer beware. Many frameshops just use the term(s) to charge you the maximum rate.Tru-site is just regular non glare glass. With a sandblasted side, and awfully thick. and anything you put in front of a picture will stop 50% of UV (except maybe plywood, which will stop 100%). Plexiglas is the best bang for the buck. 98% as you said. You'll pay plenty more for the other 2%. Denglass (the good stuff) is really expensive, and still has all the problems of glass (weight, breakage). It uses a coating on one side like shuttle windows. Maybe the same thing. |
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