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Topic: Quick - free grab bag...
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Hart Sastrowardoyo Member Posts: 3445 From: Toms River, NJ Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 01-07-2005 10:26 AM
Did so, and gave my address. Will update when received and what I put in. |
spaceman Member Posts: 1104 From: Walsall, West Midlands, UK Registered: Dec 2002
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posted 01-08-2005 02:41 PM
Hi Guys, I did receive the grab box once many years ago...ok, it just seems that long ago now.Will it confuse matters to start 'Grabbox 2'? or a 'European grabbox'? Comments please - if interested I'll start it off with space covers, a patch,photos and old NASA publicity bits. I can't offer space shuttle spares. Nick. |
Steven Kaplan Member Posts: 140 From: New Jersey Registered: Jul 2001
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posted 01-08-2005 03:17 PM
Back in January 2003, when this thread began, I started a second grab bag, specifically for students (see the 11th post on page 1 of this thread.) Any idea what happened to it? I believe at this point it has either been lost, or there is in fact more than one grab bag in circulation. Any comments? |
Hart Sastrowardoyo Member Posts: 3445 From: Toms River, NJ Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 01-23-2005 09:55 PM
Originally, I was gonna post all the items I put into the trade box; but that list would be too long and I want to leave a few surprises. Here's a short list of what I threw in there:Signed index card: Byron Lichtenberg (mail) STS-9, STS-45 Ed Gibson, Skylab III (mail) Best regards, Jerry Carr, CDR, Skylab III (SL-4) (mail) Best wishes, Mike Lampton, SL1, EOM, Atlas 1 (mail) Drew Gaffney, STS-40 (mail) C F Bolden, MGen USMC, 6/2/99 (mail) Joe Allen, STS-5, STS-51A (mail) Sam Durrance (mail) Mission 61E, STS-35, STS-67 Owen Garriott (mail) Robert Cenker, STS-61C (mail) Bill Nelson, STS 61C (mail) Original glossy: STS-76 insignia Lithos: Space shuttle lifts off into space (STS-3) Apollo 11 EVA (Aldrin/1975) Skylab, astronaut Lousma EVA (non-NASA) Apollo 10 view of the Earth (worm logo) Apollo Soyuz symbolic flight activities Autopens: Bill Shepherd Documents: STS-41D schedule from Mission Planning and Analysis Division STS-7 contractor public relations badge Public viewing site pass for “Test Flight of the Space Shuttle Enterprise,” blue, postmarked Edwards AFB, Jul. 26, 1977 STS-59 landing Bus Boarding Pass Miscellaneous: Cast photo, Max Q, ABC-TV “inspiring picture of today’s space program and a suspense-filled thriller” Lunar orbital flight Apollo 10 cover, postmarked Patrick Air Force Base, May 22, 1969 Two slides from Nova’s “Terror in Space,” about Mir Two photos of Apollo 10 CM from London’s Science Museum Mission 41B patch NASA-JSC safety, reliability, and quality assurance patch Deep Space Network decal mounted on frame backer German stamp showing shuttle Canadian 34 cent stamp showing Canadarm Cassini patch NASA Kennedy Space Center Florida USA meatball Manned Orbiting Laboratory patch Marsha Ivins STS-32R 3x5 Space Shots cards: Soloyov, Berezovoi 25th anniversary LM-4 “Snoopy” patch NUSAT deployment postcard, postmarked Houston, TX, Apr. 29, 1985 and KSC, also same date Postcard of Enterprise separating from 747 STS-1 printed sig award Bob Crippen GI Joe action figure Size Large Snoopy KSC Shuttle Command sweatshirt On the Moon with Apollo 17 Canaveral Port Authority Space Shuttle Commemorative Coins (set of four, plus a reverse) Autographs: L. van den Berg on STS-51B cover postmarked KSC, April 29, 1985 Bonnie J. Dunbar on STS-71 insignia cover postmarked KSC, Jul 7, 1995 Maj. Eileen M. Collins/Space Shuttle Pilot/Astronaut candidate/April 14, 1990 on Peaceful Uses of Outer Space cover Gordon Cooper on Colorano silk cachet US Space Achievements FDC (only “A Decade of Achievement” stamp is on cover) Gerald Carr initialed note Jack Lousma initialed note A. A. Beagonranov signed Apollo 10 cover,postmarked Cape Canaveral, May 18, 1969: “With best wishes to the collector of space material” Cheryl Sterns inscribed and signed Army Reserve booklet (champion sky diver) Mike Massimino signed sticky-note (first name only) Ulf Merbold ESA card Loren Shriver signed note (first name only) Peter Longhurst, Commander Royal Navy, Skynet 4PS, 1 Aug 84 signed envelope Roy Bridges signed note Ribert W Phillips, Payload Specialist, SLS1 signed Space Achievements FDC (with Exploring the Moon and Probing the Planets stamps), postmarked KSC May 21, 1981 Terry Hart inscribed poster of New Jersey area Valentina Tereshkova signed postcard-sized portrait Walter Cunningham signed “All-American Boys”
What I took: "The Race" and "We Seven" books, STS-41 ISP, a few covers and a few stickers, a 1984 Morton Thiokol Space Shuttle Payload Launch Schedule, Space camp bear, a NASA Facts sheet on TAL sites. Still a whole lotta neat stuff for the rest of you'all.
Will the next person on the list please contact me, which I believe goes as follows (David D', I assume you're the DavidH as we wanted to hit the Canadian people first?): Kpamke astpexhibitor Housedadx4 andthekids Aztecdoug Larry BoogerBill Spacekid2 Manilla Jim Bruce Moody Machmanbuster Kirsten Jacques van Oene Ben Robert Pearlman John K Rochester Daveblog Spaceman1953 MrSpace86 Of course, I still have the rest of my storage unit to go through... so there may be a second visit to this neck of the woods later.
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HouseDadX4 unregistered
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posted 01-30-2005 09:25 PM
allright, since it's getting so close to my name, just wanting to get an update on "the box"... |
DavidH Member Posts: 1217 From: Huntsville, AL, USA Registered: Jun 2003
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posted 01-31-2005 10:47 AM
Hart's been in touch with me, and I'm eagerly awaiting its arrival, and trying to wrap up my contributions.------------------ http://allthese worlds.hatbag.net/space.php "America's challenge of today has forged man's destiny of tomorrow." - Commander Eugene Cernan, Apollo 17 Mission, 11 December 1972 |
Hart Sastrowardoyo Member Posts: 3445 From: Toms River, NJ Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 01-31-2005 12:52 PM
Finally got it off at the Post Office off today to David, send it Parcel Post by Delivery Confirmation - 0304 1560 0003 5296 5276. Still lotsa neat stuff in there, as well as the stuff I threw in. |
tegwilym Member Posts: 2331 From: Sturgeon Bay, WI Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 01-31-2005 05:14 PM
Not to seem greedy or anything, but is it possible to get back on the end of the list for a second visit of the famous space goody box? ![](http://collectspace.com/ubb/smile.gif) |
Moonpaws Member Posts: 685 From: Lee's summit, MO Registered: Jan 2005
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posted 01-31-2005 06:05 PM
I think everybody would agree that the box should not be in anyone's own possession for more than a week. Two weeks min. was the stay for the last person and that simply won't allow enough people to participate in this. Could we all agree to this? |
Aztecdoug Member Posts: 1405 From: Huntington Beach Registered: Feb 2000
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posted 01-31-2005 06:24 PM
I am curious... how much does this thing weigh by now? What does it cost to ship it each leg?------------------ Kind Regards Douglas Henry Enjoy yourself and have fun.... it is only a hobby! http://home.earthlink.net/~aztecdoug/ |
Hart Sastrowardoyo Member Posts: 3445 From: Toms River, NJ Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 02-01-2005 09:19 AM
I'm not sure to whom the comment was directed to, but it did take a while to get the box from Canada to me (didn't see how it was sent); I had the box a week and mailed it out when I could - snow notwithstanding, I also had to get another box and I also work a crazy schedule. I understand though, the anticipation, because I was on the list almost two years.By Parcel Post, which takes "about" four days, it was $23 and change. I don't have the receipt, but a rough calculation on usps.com from 08751 to Huntsville, AL shows that to be slightly more than 40 pounds. Keep in mind, though, I'm calculating backwards, so I could be off. |
HouseDadX4 unregistered
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posted 02-02-2005 02:18 AM
That's about how long i've been on the list as well..It does take time, but I'm being patient..Looking forward to it's arrival here in Oklahoma. I'm hoping it arrives around the time of our auction/art show fund raiser for our challenger center effort. [This message has been edited by HouseDadX4 (edited February 02, 2005).] |
andthekids Member Posts: 54 From: san clemente, ca, usa Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 02-02-2005 02:25 AM
I love the tracking number that was used in the post on this page. It gives us all a chance to see where its been and where its going. More importantly is that we get to see when it arrives. I have also been on the list for a very long time and I cant wait until it comes my way. 3 MORE[This message has been edited by andthekids (edited February 02, 2005).] |
skippy in space Member Posts: 251 From: Aberdeen Scotland Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 02-02-2005 12:59 PM
Have I dropped of the list ?Now if the package could say make over to this side of the pond with some one going to Autographica and then it going back via some one going to the UACC show (or similar events and vice a versa) it would save a packet for the UK or US guy who has to send it over the pond. The stingy Scott |
DavidH Member Posts: 1217 From: Huntsville, AL, USA Registered: Jun 2003
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posted 02-12-2005 11:13 AM
The good news: The grab box has arrived! The bad news: The thread ends here, 'cause I'm keeping it all! ![](http://collectspace.com/ubb/smile.gif) All right, in all seriousness, I had a few questions/observations that I wanted to share, but first, if anyone's curious, here's what I received:
I stopped taking pictures there 'cause I didn't want to spoil what's inside for the people who are next. And let me tell you, going through it took some time. So, my questions/comments: 1) I was inclined to make some changes to add some durability; to wit: replacing the cardboard box with a plastic one, and purchasing some binders and plastic sleeves to put flat items in. The cardboard box doesn't seem to be a problem, but as I understand, it has to be replaced from time to time. (And, theoretically, a worst-case scenario of shipping damage bad enough to injure the contents is always a possibility.) The binders would protect flat items, which is an issue, in that there were some items that were bent up. The trade-off, however, is that this would, of course, increase the weight, and thus shipping costs. For myself, I think it's worth it to reduce damage to the contents, but others may prefer to keep it as lightweight as possible to get as much content bang for your shipping buck as you can. If anybody who's further down the list has any preferences, please let me know. 2) Given that part of the point of the grab box initially was for newbie collectors to get a jumpstart on their collection, it bothers me that there are handsigned items mixed with autopens and preprints in the box. Sure, looking closely enough, I was able to tell for most of them, but a beginner could easily assume that all of those items were authentic signatures. I think we should start a list of (")signed(") items in the box so that future receipients can easily tell if an item is genuine or not. The same point could be made for hardware, as well. It would be really great to know what exactly a given piece of hardware is, and whether it was flown or not. Again, any thoughts on this idea? 3) Who's next? Give me an address. David ------------------ http://allthese worlds.hatbag.net/space.php "America's challenge of today has forged man's destiny of tomorrow." - Commander Eugene Cernan, Apollo 17 Mission, 11 December 1972 |
lunarrv15 Member Posts: 1355 From: Cincinnati, Ohio, Hamilton Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 02-12-2005 12:42 PM
Please! Please! show what else in thereI would like to see the individual photos. Maybe there is photo in there that I am looking for in the box. |
lunarrv15 Member Posts: 1355 From: Cincinnati, Ohio, Hamilton Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 02-12-2005 12:47 PM
buzzare. above post didn't appear after posting so I re-posted which now shows I double posted.[This message has been edited by lunarrv15 (edited February 12, 2005).] |
Apollo-Soyuz Member Posts: 1205 From: Shady Side, Md Registered: Sep 2004
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posted 02-12-2005 05:49 PM
I think I am next. Email me off list and I'll give you my address. ![](http://collectspace.com/ubb/biggrin.gif) ------------------ John Macco V.P- Space Unit Shady Side, MD. |
HouseDadX4 unregistered
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posted 02-12-2005 06:25 PM
I follow astpexhibitor. Is that you John?? |
DavidH Member Posts: 1217 From: Huntsville, AL, USA Registered: Jun 2003
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posted 02-12-2005 08:57 PM
At one point, somebody was getting in touch with the next several people? Has anyone heard from Kpamke, who was next on the list?------------------ http://allthese worlds.hatbag.net/space.php "America's challenge of today has forged man's destiny of tomorrow." - Commander Eugene Cernan, Apollo 17 Mission, 11 December 1972 |
HouseDadX4 unregistered
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posted 02-13-2005 01:51 AM
no idea..not even sure who kpamke is... |
Rob Joyner Member Posts: 1308 From: GA, USA Registered: Jan 2004
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posted 02-13-2005 02:43 AM
GEEZ!!! Look at that 'box'! The first pic looks like something that was rigged up on Apollo 13!! Might I suggest at least housing the box inside another that's more sturdy and not as worn? It looks like the box needs to be bigger though. The items are obviously crammed in there tightly! Looks like the poster (?) at the top is quite bent and therefore creased. I've been thinking of putting my name on the list, but if I already had, I'd be biting my nails right now! ![](http://collectspace.com/ubb/smile.gif)
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spacekid2 Member Posts: 199 From: San Diego, CA, USA Registered: Jul 2004
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posted 02-13-2005 02:46 AM
Dear DavidH Kpamke first put in her name on page 4 of the posts. 12/2/2003 at 8:32am. She posted twice and then has not posted again. She doesn't have an e-mail address listed. I would say that John is next as he posted. And by the way John way to be patient. It's only been 1 year and some days in waiting for the box to get to you:] I also apprecited your thoughtfulness David for thinking of protecting the box and the contents. Another idea may be to split the box contents into two boxes. You will be able to add packing material? Just a thought. Paul Schultz Spacekid2 |
Hart Sastrowardoyo Member Posts: 3445 From: Toms River, NJ Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 02-13-2005 09:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by Rob Joyner: GEEZ!!! Look at that 'box'! The first pic looks like something that was rigged up on Apollo 13!! ![](http://collectspace.com/ubb/smile.gif)
The problem was in finding the right sized box. I had gotten an Extra Large box from U-Haul (bought brand new), but that was too big, and had to cut down the top of it so the contents wouldn't shift too much. Housing the box inside another is great, but again, there's the cost. At 40+ pounds, well, plug in the zip code at usps.com from where it's originating to where it's going. If indeed the box is meant for newbies than for people to trade duplicates, then you'll find (IMHO) that newbies won't be able to participate as much due to cost. (I also paid extra for delivery confirmation for tracking.) Same thing with splitting into two boxes - you may find that two 20 pound boxes does not cost the same as a 40 pound box. And there's extra possibility of one of the boxes getting lost, or arriving at different times despite being mailed out same day same place. As for the poster (the item, not the person , if it's the one I'm thinking of, it was one that I had pulled out of my collection unfortunately like that already (and I figured it'd be better on top rather than on the bottom.) Same thing with one of the autographs in there - it's got really bad traces of having been mounted on the back. |
HouseDadX4 unregistered
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posted 02-13-2005 12:57 PM
When it gets here to Oklahoma, I can go ahead and move everything to a fresh box. My wife is a nurse in a cath lab. They get all kinds of odd shaped boxes, both big and small. I'm sure she'll be able to get me something that's solid and made to fit everything.. |
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posted 02-13-2005 01:59 PM
I don't need to get in on the list for the box so don't add me. I just found this thread interesting. Have you considered sending the box FedEx instead of USPS? FedEx is usually cheaper for any package more than 2-3 lbs. Plus, they include $100 of insurance. |
DavidH Member Posts: 1217 From: Huntsville, AL, USA Registered: Jun 2003
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posted 02-13-2005 04:17 PM
Trying to sort this stuff out for future receipients. My guess is that the photo below is an autopen, but if the person who contributed it would be kind enough to verify that, I would appreciate it. ------------------ http://allthese worlds.hatbag.net/space.php "America's challenge of today has forged man's destiny of tomorrow." - Commander Eugene Cernan, Apollo 17 Mission, 11 December 1972 |
Jake Member Posts: 464 From: Issaquah, WA U.S.A. Registered: Jun 2002
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posted 02-14-2005 06:55 PM
I like the idea of a more sturdy box...------------------ Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) |
HouseDadX4 unregistered
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posted 02-15-2005 03:58 PM
The process of getting A new sturdy box is now in the works. In another words, my wife knows..lol Once the package arrives here, I'll repack everything nice and neat in a much stronger box... |
DavidH Member Posts: 1217 From: Huntsville, AL, USA Registered: Jun 2003
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posted 02-15-2005 06:14 PM
The grab box is now in the hands of FedEx, repacked and in a sturdier box.Tracking number is 468398651329220. For the record, the grab box now weighs 52 pounds, and cost me $18.81 to ship. For the curious, here's one final peek with the lid off, and what it looked like when I shipped it to John. ------------------ http://allthese worlds.hatbag.net/space.php "America's challenge of today has forged man's destiny of tomorrow." - Commander Eugene Cernan, Apollo 17 Mission, 11 December 1972 |
HouseDadX4 unregistered
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posted 02-15-2005 06:16 PM
Wow, well, that ought be interesting..I just hope nobody decides to open it up in between destinations...that wouldn't be very nice of them... |
Hart Sastrowardoyo Member Posts: 3445 From: Toms River, NJ Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 02-16-2005 07:00 AM
Any teasers as to what was put in, and what you took out? |
DavidH Member Posts: 1217 From: Huntsville, AL, USA Registered: Jun 2003
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posted 02-16-2005 08:51 AM
Oh, forgot to mention, along with the new box, I started what I thought might be a cool new grab box tradition, signing the lid (with Sharpie, natch) with the date and place. It might be interesting as it travels around to see where it's been and how long it traveled. I'd love to see future receipients carry this on.Hmmm... don't have my list here, but a few highlights. Among other things, I took the Tereshkova postcard, some unidentified Shuttle hardware, and the Shuttle G.I. Joe, who's already making friends with my Mercury and Apollo Joes. A few lithos, a few stickers, and the National Geographic aerial pic of the curvature of the Earth for my mom, who was more impressed with it than any of the space stuff. ![](http://collectspace.com/ubb/wink.gif) Put in: A flight suit, a photovoltaic cell left over from the construction of Skylab, some 11 x 14 Apollo lithos, enough meatball stickers to last the grab box for quite a while (unless someone needs several for some reason), a few Shuttle-era astro signed items, a Lego astronaut keychain, among several more "filler" items. ------------------ http://allthese worlds.hatbag.net/space.php "America's challenge of today has forged man's destiny of tomorrow." - Commander Eugene Cernan, Apollo 17 Mission, 11 December 1972 |
HouseDadX4 unregistered
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posted 02-17-2005 01:59 AM
That'll be cool to see that box in the future with a bunch of signatures of locations and dates. Too bad it won't arrive in time for our exhibit at the John Glenn presentation next week. I'd try to ask him to sign it!! |
DavidH Member Posts: 1217 From: Huntsville, AL, USA Registered: Jun 2003
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posted 02-17-2005 08:32 AM
Even if he can't sign, maybe he has some stuff he'd like to put in? ![](http://collectspace.com/ubb/wink.gif) ------------------ http://allthese worlds.hatbag.net/space.php "America's challenge of today has forged man's destiny of tomorrow." - Commander Eugene Cernan, Apollo 17 Mission, 11 December 1972 |
Apollo-Soyuz Member Posts: 1205 From: Shady Side, Md Registered: Sep 2004
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posted 02-17-2005 03:03 PM
Housedadx4 please send me your address as I just got the box. I will look through it and will let you know what I take and what I put in. I will ship it to you next friday February 25, 2005. ![](http://collectspace.com/ubb/biggrin.gif) ------------------ John Macco V.P- Space Unit Shady Side, MD. [This message has been edited by Apollo-Soyuz (edited February 17, 2005).] |
Apollo-Soyuz Member Posts: 1205 From: Shady Side, Md Registered: Sep 2004
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posted 02-17-2005 03:36 PM
I have gone through box and took 3 books, few issues of Spaceflight, one Eileen collins signed photo and a few unsigned crew lithos. I am going to put in 30 issues of NASA Activities from the1970's and 1980's. It was a great idea sending it Federal Express as the costs do not compare to USPS. ![](http://collectspace.com/ubb/biggrin.gif) ------------------ John Macco V.P- Space Unit Shady Side, MD. |
andthekids Member Posts: 54 From: san clemente, ca, usa Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 02-23-2005 12:50 PM
It has now been 1 year since I posted my name on this list and I am getting very excited to see what's in the box! Can't wait! Can you guys hurry it up? Teeheehee |
HouseDadX4 unregistered
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posted 02-23-2005 01:33 PM
yea, i know that feeling. i've been on the list for 13 months and it's finally coming here next. will be cool to see the famous "box". I have a few things to put in there. [This message has been edited by HouseDadX4 (edited February 23, 2005).] |
tegwilym Member Posts: 2331 From: Sturgeon Bay, WI Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 02-23-2005 01:58 PM
52 lbs now? Sheesh! It was only about 15 or something when it visited me. I'm back on the list aren't I? ![](http://collectspace.com/ubb/smile.gif) Tom |