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Topic: 10/24-25: Space Lectures Fred Haise event (UK)
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Rick Mulheirn Member Posts: 4167 From: England Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 09-28-2014 01:11 PM
With less than 4 weeks to go approximately 30 tickets remain for the Fred Haise lecture.When Alan Bean visited Ponte last year he spoke to two groups of school children on the Friday morning. As a consequence there was a run on tickets from the parents of some of those children. Fred will be giving a talk to a school in Sheffield on Thursday so a repeat of the Bean experience may see any remaining tickets snapped up PDQ. Apologies for not posting more auction lot photos as promised. The framer and his wife are expecting a baby anytime now and the guy has a lot on his plate as a consequence. All will be ready in time for the auction and I hope to post more photos in the comming week or so. |
Rick Mulheirn Member Posts: 4167 From: England Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 09-30-2014 04:28 AM
Just a reminder ladies and genlemen that Space Lectures will be announcing their guest for April 2015 at the Fred Haise event.Ken will take orders for April at the Haise event and tickets will be mailed out at a later date so please be sure to give Ken either a sae with your ticket payments or an additional payment to cover p&p; Ken will tell you what p&p will be on the day. Not long now till Freddo |
moorouge Member Posts: 2454 From: U.K. Registered: Jul 2009
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posted 09-30-2014 09:02 AM
As you know Rick, I'm a simple fellow but I thought that some of us had already sent Ken cheques/sae's for April and that he would be taking names but no money for October 2015 at the Freddo gathering. |
Rick Mulheirn Member Posts: 4167 From: England Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 09-30-2014 09:14 AM
You are correct Eddie... on both counts: Ken will take payment for April at the Haise event. But he won't take payment for October 2015 though he will take details of those who confirm that they will be attending.If you have paid Ken already for the April tickets you can collect them from him in person at the Haise event. If you have paid postage for the April event you can carry that over to October 2015 tickets instead. Postage and packing for mailing out the April 2015 tickets will be just £1.00. Ken will lick the envelopes for free! |
Rick Mulheirn Member Posts: 4167 From: England Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 10-01-2014 05:06 AM
Further ticket clarification straight from the horses mouth, aka Ken. Those who have sent a sae for April 2015 tickets can pick them up after the Fred Haise lecture - I am not going to post those out before Freddo; (they can re-use the sae for ** in October 2015.) Anyone paying at the talk has a choice, pay £40 and put their name in a book and send sae when they get home (cost is two stamps plus two envelopes which is more than £1) or for £1, put details on an envelope provided and I will post tickets out on the Monday.Or... you could just bring your own sae! Anyone wanting to pay by BACS can put details on an envelope, send £1 extra and I will post them out when payment comes through. I hope that all makes sense guys. If you need further clarification please drop myself or Ken a line.
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SPACEKID Member Posts: 59 From: UK Registered: Oct 2007
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posted 10-05-2014 01:29 PM
Do you think we could see Fred and the following astronauts give their talk from the stage instead of the floor? I keep getting tall guys sat in front of me. I'm sure it happens to many people. Is there a problem using the stage? That's what it is for. I'm sure the audience would appreciate this! |
Rick Mulheirn Member Posts: 4167 From: England Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 10-06-2014 04:22 AM
This at first seems a more than reasonable suggestion, but the astronauts prefer to stay on the floor.Alan Bean, and others, were concerned they would mask the projection screen behind and like many of us getting longer in the tooth, their peripheral vision is not what it once was. Quite simply, several have expressed the concern they might fall off the black stage floor! The theatre was newly built only 3 years ago. The tiering of the seats is steeper than many a theatre I have been in; certainly steep enough to accommodate the astronauts concerns. |
Rick Mulheirn Member Posts: 4167 From: England Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 10-07-2014 05:09 PM
Ken has just informed me that as anticipated, ticket sales for the Fred Haise lecture have started to accelerate once again in the last few days.There now remains just one row of available seats in the theatre. A sell-out is just days away. May I remind everybody who asked to purchase Paolo Attivissimo's excellent book "Moon Hoax Debunked" (around 10 in total); please make yourselves known to Paolo in the bar at the dinner or the auditorium for the lecture and settle up with him in person. I passed each and everybody's name to Paolo but I suspect it will be easier for you to all find him than the other way around. He is bringing enough copies to fulfill those requests along with a few extras just in case. Ciao! |
Tykeanaut Member Posts: 2212 From: Worcestershire, England, UK. Registered: Apr 2008
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posted 10-08-2014 09:06 AM
Just curious Rick, are luminaries such as Prof. Brian Cox or Dr. Brian May made aware of these visits? |
Rick Mulheirn Member Posts: 4167 From: England Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 10-08-2014 12:52 PM
Yes Chris, to both luminaries and a few more besides. In fact, when the ground work was being done to get Neil Armstrong over about three years ago Professor Brian Cox agreed to introduce the great man and chair the post lecture Q&A. Unfortunately, things did not pan out. Incidentally, I mentioned earlier that the framer making a number of the auction items is expecting. He has finished more auction pieces but his wife is due any time now so you will understand our reluctance to badger him. I will add photos just as soon as nature permits. |
Rick Mulheirn Member Posts: 4167 From: England Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 10-11-2014 03:17 AM
Just two weeks remain until the Fred Haise lecture. I am looking forward to meeting many a member at the event. It is going to be another good one!Only a handful of tickets remain. If you have not bought one already time is running out. |
Rick Mulheirn Member Posts: 4167 From: England Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 10-13-2014 11:52 AM
As promised here are a few more auction pieces on offer at the Fred Haise dinner. - The mint condition Gene Cernan 10x8 glossy was signed by Cernan at the Sheffield Film Festival in June. This, along with the signed movie poster previewed previously would not have been possible without the support of Mark Stewart Productions, and Gareth Dodds in particular.
- The STS-125 piece includes a flown payload bay sample, awarded to NASA employees following the final Hubble servicing mission. From memory, the photo of the Atlantis exhibit is approximately 16x12, so this should give you an idea of the scale.
- I believe the Wally Schirra piece is a signed litho with impeccable provenance.
I hope these images give those attending a flavour of the auction. Fred Haise signed displays and a shuttle EMU (space suit) cross section will be amongst other auction pieces on the night. Bidding can only be made in person and remember, a percentage of any profits from the Fred Haise event will go to UNICEF with the remainder going towards the next Space Lectures event in April 2015. A big thank you to Richard from "iframes" for all his hard work and Mr and Mrs OWL for facilitating the framing. |
Rick Mulheirn Member Posts: 4167 From: England Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 10-13-2014 02:23 PM
Ken asked me today whether we should invite those attending the Fred Haise lecture to nominate guests they would like to see at future Space Lectures events.Some potential speakers would be unrealistic; John Young for instance is known to be unwell. Others perhaps prohibitively expensive given the kind of return 475 lecture tickets and 130 dinner tickets would provide. If money were no object we would have had Neil Armstrong several years ago but not enough people were prepared to fork out £100 for a lecture ticket; surprising given that he sold out around 500 seats in Dublin in 2002 for that kind of cash. If we had known back then (2010) how little time remained for Neil I wonder what the response might have been... Consider the question an opportunity for collectSPACE members of voice their opinion. Ken I know reads every post and would appreciate the feedback. |
Skyguy48 Member Posts: 142 From: Scotland Registered: Jun 2011
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posted 10-13-2014 02:53 PM
I would love to see a "Capture" of Ed Mitchell or indeed another attempt on Schmitt. |
Rick Mulheirn Member Posts: 4167 From: England Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 10-13-2014 06:59 PM
We had Edgar Mitchell over a few years ago; 2009 I think. |
moorouge Member Posts: 2454 From: U.K. Registered: Jul 2009
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posted 10-14-2014 01:17 AM
I may be a lone voice in the wilderness, but does it have to be an astronaut? I'm certain, in fact know, that there many interesting stories to be told from the Apollo days by those who made the flights successful but never left the ground. |
Tykeanaut Member Posts: 2212 From: Worcestershire, England, UK. Registered: Apr 2008
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posted 10-14-2014 04:20 AM
Great auction items Rick, congrats to all involved.Re guests: Mike Collins, Harrison Schmitt, Jim Lovell, Gene Cernan, Frank Borman, Story Musgrave and Eileen Collins? How's that for a one-night line up! |
Rick Mulheirn Member Posts: 4167 From: England Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 10-14-2014 04:50 AM
Some good suggestions there guys and some names "familiar" to Ken. Keep 'em coming.Your point Eddie is one not lost on Ken Willoughby. |
AstroAutos Member Posts: 803 From: Co. Monaghan, Republic of Ireland Registered: Mar 2009
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posted 10-14-2014 05:23 AM
I unfortunately won't be able to attend the Haise event due to conflicting university and newspaper commitments, but hope everyone has a great weekend.As for guests for future shows, the names that would really jump out for me as on a par with the Mattingly capture would be: - Mike Collins
- Bill Anders
- Frank Borman
- Jack Schmitt
- Jim Lovell
- Gene Cernan
Any of those would have me very, VERY interested... |
moorouge Member Posts: 2454 From: U.K. Registered: Jul 2009
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posted 10-14-2014 11:02 AM
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Tom Stafford, always assuming he's still fit and able to travel. |
gliderpilotuk Member Posts: 3398 From: London, UK Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 10-14-2014 11:47 AM
Well he was very fit and well at Autographica and reputedly transiting London to visit Leonov.Any of Borman, Collins or Schmitt would do - the only living Apollo astronauts I've not met. Or (highly unlikely) John Glenn would be the ultimate. Mark Kelly, Piers Sellers... and how about the Russians? Would be great to meet Tereshkova, Bykovsky again, or Leonov. Their lectures at Autographica many years ago were very memorable. |
18blue78 Member Posts: 126 From: UK Registered: Aug 2013
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posted 10-14-2014 02:04 PM
Being a child of the Space Shuttle I'd like, actually love, to see Bob Crippen over here. |
Charlie16 Member Posts: 494 From: Italy Registered: Dec 2010
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posted 10-14-2014 03:17 PM
Absolutely: Frank Borman! |
Tykeanaut Member Posts: 2212 From: Worcestershire, England, UK. Registered: Apr 2008
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posted 10-15-2014 03:37 AM
There are also Dave Scott and Bruce McCandless, or to some have they been "over exposed" by the Autographica appearances perhaps? |
Buel Member Posts: 649 From: UK Registered: Mar 2012
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posted 10-16-2014 03:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by moorouge: I may be a lone voice in the wilderness, but does it have to be an astronaut? I'm certain, in fact know, that there many interesting stories to be told from the Apollo days by those who made the flights successful but never left the ground.
Well Eddie, my friend, we may not always see eye-to-eye, but on this one — I'm with you!Several of my friends on here may know that I have developed an obsession (I prefer to call it 'interest') with the great men of the Gemini/Apollo Mission Control Center. So, for what it's worth, here are my choices: - Chris Kraft (probably not going to happen now, but just imagine....)
- Gene Kranz
- Gerry Griffin
- Glynn Lunney
- Jerry Bostick
- Steve Bales - "We're....we're go on that, Flight" (1202 Alarm)
- John Aaron
Of course, this would be all the more special if this could be timed for the release of Rick Houston's exciting new book on the guys of the MOCR, 'Go, Flight!' (Possibly early next year, I believe). I think Rick would welcome the opportunity to fly over to give a talk too! Rick, if you're watching... |
Rick Mulheirn Member Posts: 4167 From: England Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 10-17-2014 03:55 AM
Craig, again you have come up with some good names. But it is worth remembering the majority of that list are relatively unknown outside of the space community. Their fees may not be as big as the majority of astronauts which would benefit ticket prices. But ultimately we would still need to sell several hundred tickets to make the event work and I doubt many of those listed could attract the numbers needed.That said, there are one or two names there that could... so the suggestions have been duly noted. |
moorouge Member Posts: 2454 From: U.K. Registered: Jul 2009
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posted 10-17-2014 04:27 AM
OK - I'm going to draw a lot of flak on this but fortunately many have said I have a thick skin and broad shoulders.I have to question those people who profess an interest in the space programme but are only prepared to come to lectures when an astronaut is present. Perhaps their interest would be better defined as having a personality interest rather than one that encompasses all aspects of the M-G-A programmes. I seem to remember a talk by Sy in a classroom at Pontefract that was poorly attended but nevertheless gave a fascinating and informative glimpse of behind the scenes in the Apollo programme and added to everyone's knowledge of this particular space programme. Those attending were the ones with a real interest in space. |
crash Member Posts: 318 From: West Sussex, England Registered: Jan 2011
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posted 10-17-2014 04:29 AM
The names Gene Kranz and Chris Kraft should stand out in the public's memory, but aren't both resisitant to overseas travel now? Add to the list: - Jack Lousma
- Fred Gregory
- Mike Mullane
- Hoot Gibson
- Story Musgrave
- Chris Ferguson
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crash Member Posts: 318 From: West Sussex, England Registered: Jan 2011
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posted 10-17-2014 04:33 AM
quote: Originally posted by moorouge: Perhaps their interest would be better defined as having a personality interest rather than one that encompasses all aspects of the M-G-A programmes.
Good point, well made!I think the Schmitt affair proved that point. A great pity that what would have been a fantastic visit was scuppered on the basis of people not getting the signatures that they wanted. Tin helmet also on. |
moorouge Member Posts: 2454 From: U.K. Registered: Jul 2009
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posted 10-17-2014 06:20 AM
Another name to add to the list of possible 'Space Lectures' guests - Richard Truly.He was selected as a MOL astronaut before joining NASA; was CapCom for the Skylab missions as well as for ASTP; flew the Enterprise and commanded a shuttle flight; became the first ex-astronaut to act as NASA Administrator. Besides which, his was the very first astronaut autograph I collected in 1975 when he gave a talk at the American Embassy. |
Rick Mulheirn Member Posts: 4167 From: England Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 10-17-2014 06:21 AM
Your point Eddie is perfectly valid; and your various thick and broad body parts are safe. I would happily tip up to see any of the names bandied about in this thread. But in my time spent sheparding and talking with the signature queues at the Alan Bean, Al Worden and Ken Mattingly events especially, there have been an increasing number of casual attendees attracted by a famous name. They are not hardcore space fans and the turnout out for Sy of around 125 people serves only to reinforce that point.The increased exposure to these events courtesy of social media, collectSPACE and the likes in recent years has undoubtedly contributed to full house or near sell out attendances at an almost monotonous rate and long may that continue. But inevitably, as the MGA astronauts age Space Lectures will need to look to other potential speakers. The excellent feedback provided by this community is an invaluable contribution to this process. My only regret is that Ken Willoughby had not started these events 10 or 15 years earlier. Just think of who we might have had over had he done so. Rest assured that all possibilities are being looked at for future events and NOT just astronauts. |
Spoon Member Posts: 143 From: Cumbria, UK Registered: May 2006
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posted 10-17-2014 01:11 PM
I would love to see David Scott or Eileen Collins in Pontefract.I appreciate Scott has been to Autographica on previous occasions, but to see him conduct a lecture would be a fascinating, and rewarding, experience. Collins describing the STS-93 ascent would be worth the ticket price alone. Both always speak eloquently about their unique experiences and would be super guests. |
Rick Mulheirn Member Posts: 4167 From: England Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 10-17-2014 04:45 PM
Thanks for the input guys. The more comments and suggestions the better. It is all good stuff.If I may tease you a little, both guests for 2015 have been mentioned in recent posts. |
gliderpilotuk Member Posts: 3398 From: London, UK Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 10-18-2014 07:20 AM
Joe Engle - last surviving X-15 pilot. His talk at the UK Space conference in 2008 was just brilliant and he seems to relish lecturing.
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Ted Member Posts: 32 From: UK Registered: Sep 2014
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posted 10-18-2014 10:46 AM
People we don't get to see very much - Borman, Collins, Schmitt, Anders. Thanks |
topmiler Member Posts: 148 From: eastleigh, hampshire, UK Registered: Jul 2012
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posted 10-18-2014 01:19 PM
Borman, Collins, Schmitt, Anders.That'll do nicely. |
robert_l Member Posts: 168 From: Dundee,Scotland Registered: Jul 2008
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posted 10-18-2014 04:15 PM
Would like to meet an Apollo 8 astronaut. It's the only flight that I have not met an astronaut from.Looking forward to see Fred again. He was the first astronaut event I attended at Pontefract. His talk was fascinating so looking forward to meeting him again. |
23 Squadron New Member Posts: 1 From: UK Registered: Dec 2013
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posted 10-20-2014 12:50 PM
How about William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy beamed down to Ponte? |
Blackarrow Member Posts: 3120 From: Belfast, United Kingdom Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 10-20-2014 03:26 PM
Shatner and Nimoy? Bizarrely, I think that would be a great success, particularly if they talked about how sci-fi influenced space-travel in the 1960s. The main "problem" would be that the tickets would probably get sold out too quickly. |
Skyguy48 Member Posts: 142 From: Scotland Registered: Jun 2011
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posted 10-20-2014 04:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by Blackarrow: Shatner and Nimoy? Bizarrely, I think that would be a great success, particularly if they talked about how sci-fi influenced space-travel in the 1960s.
That would be pretty amazing but I am afraid I am NOT prepared for the £500 ticket cost. |