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rocketJoe
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posted 01-28-2006 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rocketJoe   Click Here to Email rocketJoe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The History Channel will air the previously broadcast programs Failure Is Not an Option, and Beyond the Moon: Failure Is Not An Option 2 tonight (Jan. 28).

kyra
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posted 01-29-2006 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kyra   Click Here to Email kyra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for posting this. I saw both for the first time last night. Excellently done, but sometimes with odd usages of stock footage "here goes that console with the blinking light again". And wording/graphics that over simplified the Gemini rendezvous. "17,000mph!" Yes, but the key here was the S/C speed relative to each other not to the Earth.
Apollo 1 crew lived "12 seconds" in fire ?!
Outside these three minor problems, I would still rate the documentary as well worth the watch. I have a whole new sort of respect and admiration for the Mission Control team.

"SEC to AUX" John Aaron saves Apollo 12 - what a great tale. I heard Pete Conrad's version of watching the panel light up "like a Christmas tree" and gripping the abort handle in readiness, knew the ground solved the problem, but had no idea the solution focused on one EECOM's line !

It gives me an idea for Alan Bean and Sy at UACC!

Kyra

spacecraft films
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posted 01-29-2006 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spacecraft films   Click Here to Email spacecraft films     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Our Apollo 12 DVD set features the onboard voice recorder from Apollo 12 during the ride up on the Saturn V. In fact, the set contains both flight director's loop and the onboard recorder so you can hear both sides as the problem is worked.

It's great to hear the first reaction to the "SEC to AUX" call, and the crew chuckling all the way into orbit after the pressure was off.

Mark

Astro Bill
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posted 01-29-2006 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro Bill   Click Here to Email Astro Bill     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For those who are unable to view the History Channel, there are DVD's available for all of the broadcasts of the History Channel on the subject of Space Exploration at the following link:
http://store.aetv.com/html/subject/index.jhtml?id=sat1002

[This message has been edited by Astro Bill (edited January 30, 2006).]

CosmicKnight
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posted 01-29-2006 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CosmicKnight   Click Here to Email CosmicKnight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let me add my thanks for posting this. I had been looking for programs related to the Challenger anniversary, but did not know about these until I read your post.

I was not able to watch all of the programs, but I did see parts of both shows. They were really good from what I saw. I liked the interviews with the flight controllers, since most of the documentaries I have seen have very little of these, except for interviews with the flight directors.

mjanovec
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posted 01-29-2006 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mjanovec   Click Here to Email mjanovec     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kyra:
Excellently done, but sometimes with odd usages of stock footage "here goes that console with the blinking light again". And wording/graphics that over simplified the Gemini rendezvous. "17,000mph!" Yes, but the key here was the S/C speed relative to each other not to the Earth.

If one listens to the commentary track on the DVD set, you'll hear that not all of the footage was stock...some of it was newly shot for the documentary. Mostly, this newly shot footage were the close-ups of the consoles, the close-ups of hands holding cigarettes, etc.

As for the Gemini rendezvous, I don't think they were trying to portray it as particularly dangerous to have the two spacecraft next to each other, moving at that speed. Instead, I think they were trying to convey the overall speed of both vehicles when it comes to calculating how to get them to meet up with each other. It seems pretty routine now, but back then it was new territory. It involved launching one capsule...then launching another capsule in at the right time and in the right orbit so that both of these capsules moving at roughly 17,000mph would meet up with each other. The general public has always seen it as two spacecraft just gently floating next to each other, not knowing really what a game of chase it was to get the two spacecraft to rendezvous. That's what they wanted to impart.

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