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Robert Pearlman
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posted 05-01-2003 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A small team (including Vance Brand and John Young) was chartered by NASA to make a top-level assessment of the viability of using the Apollo Command and Service Modules the basis for a Crew Return Vehicle, and potentially for a Crew Transfer Vehicle, for the International Space Station. This assessment was conducted 13-14 March 2003.
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=9031

John K. Rochester
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posted 05-01-2003 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for John K. Rochester   Click Here to Email John K. Rochester     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That would be terrific if Apollo could fly again..!! ( and take a paying passenger!)

tegwilym
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posted 05-01-2003 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tegwilym   Click Here to Email tegwilym     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Back in the Skylab days, they used to have plans for a crew of 2 to go up there and sardine the 3 others in the CSM. Sounds like a good idea if you ask me!
They could carry a six-pack of CMDs up there in the shuttle bay if needed.


Ham
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posted 05-01-2003 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just for curiosity. Can Apollo CSM fit into cargo bay of the shuttle?

Ham

collectSPACE Admin
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posted 05-01-2003 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for collectSPACE Admin   Click Here to Email collectSPACE Admin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Posted by request:

It's amazing that what was once old is new again! In the 1980's when the Monogram 1/32 scale Apollo Command and service module was out of production, I got a call from the Rockwell Public affairs office, in Downey - they said that they needed a kit to modify and use in development for the 1980's space station version. I recieved a little briefing and some photos in trade for the kit.

That proposal called for a shortened service module, as it was not going to need all that propellant- with no radiators, and the different docking system in the nose- otherwise it appeared very much like the spacecraft that we all know!

Bet Boeing is looking at those plans now!
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P.S. My data says that 12 feet,10 inches in Diameter, it could not fit in the Shuttle bay as it was.

But perhaps sideways- 10 feet, 7 inches" it could be attached to the S.M. with the RMS- this was a consideration, I remember!!!
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Jim Busby

divemaster
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posted 05-01-2003 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for divemaster   Click Here to Email divemaster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe it's time to resurrect a couple of S1b's. It had a 100% success record.

Von Braun must be chuckling in his grave.

LC34, here we come.

-tracy

Ben
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posted 05-01-2003 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ben   Click Here to Email Ben     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My guess is, that should this idea be implemented, the plan would be to launch the CSM on an Atlas 5 or Delta 4, which was going to be the launcher for the OSP in the initial design.

Philip
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posted 05-05-2003 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Returning by Apollo-type capsule (CSM or call it what You want) isn't the most elegant way to return to Earth, but certainly the cheapest way !

Aztecdoug
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posted 05-05-2003 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aztecdoug   Click Here to Email Aztecdoug     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am curious. Would it land in the water like the good old days? I imagine that option would require a lot of sea power.

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spaceuk
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posted 05-05-2003 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spaceuk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ESA went a long way down the R&D path with the Apollo-style CRV for the ISS

I think its a still viable program within ESA ?

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