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Robert Pearlman
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posted September 21, 2002 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Today I attended the "Dulles Day Family Festival and Plane Pull 2002" at Dulles Airport in Washington, DC. For those not familiar, the event is organized to raise money for the Special Olympics by having sponsored teams try to pull a FedEx Boeing 727. The quickest to pull the 145,000-lb. machine 12 feet wins.

The National Air and Space Museum uses this opportunity to open the two temporary hangars at the airport to show-off artifacts including the Space Shuttle Enterprise and SR-71 Blackbird # 972.

This year, the Air and Space Museum was also able to show (from a distance) the new Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center building which is now under construction.

I took the opportunity to snap off some pictures, a few of which I have shared below:


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cms
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posted September 21, 2002 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cms   Click Here to Email cms     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent Posting Robert!

Looks like a very interesting facility. I'll bet it was an amazing experience.

Although more Air than Space, if you are ever in the this hemisphere , I highly recommend the Air Force Museum at Wright Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio. As if being one of (if not) the biggest air museums in the world wasn't enough, they are building an enormous third hangar that will showcase the only static display model of the B-2.

Please look me up if you ever come by, I would gladly give you a guided tour! My son and I have spent many hours roaming through the building. My best to you.

Chris

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Werb
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posted September 21, 2002 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Werb   Click Here to Email Werb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for sharing the pic Robert! Sounds like you had a great time! BTW........ what was the fastest time for pulling that bird?
Just curious.

Mike

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tncmaxq
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posted September 23, 2002 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tncmaxq   Click Here to Email tncmaxq     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great pictures. I look forward to seeing Enterprise when the Air and Space annex opens. Looks like it is in pretty rough shape now though. Are they going to refurbish it? When will that work begin?

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Robert Pearlman
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posted September 23, 2002 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mike --

I'm embarrassed to say, but beyond watching one team out of simple curiosity, I was only there to see the Enterprise (even the Apollo CM was a surprise). I spent all my time out in the hanger -- in fact, it was hard to drag me away. (How so I desired to cross the barriers and get myself up into the cockpit...)

So unfortunately, I don't know the fastest time (or for that matter, if anyone succeeded). I suppose results will be posted to: planepull.com

Tom --

I asked about refurbishing and the reply was surprising. Enterprise may not necessarily be available when the new annex opens in December 2003. The docent answering questions said that they weren't sure the McDonnell Space Hall would be completed in time, and if it was, where/when the restoration of Enterprise would take place.

I'm not sure how much restoration is needed; but it does need a good cleaning. I wonder if the Smithsonian might be interested in a dedicated team of weekend volunteers to come in and give the bird a bath?

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Paul
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posted September 23, 2002 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul   Click Here to Email Paul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's go, Robert!
I've got my brushes ready, a BIG bucket full
of hot soapy water, and a HUGE chamois
cloth!!

Paul

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Rodina
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posted September 23, 2002 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rodina   Click Here to Email Rodina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This may be a figment of purest imagination, but I seem to recall reading/hearing/ESP'ing or something that while Enterprise will go into the new facility for now, NASA has promised the Smithsonian the Columbia when it is finally retired and that it will go into the new facility and Enterprise will be moved elsewhere.

Can anyone disabuse me of this notion?

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nasamad
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posted September 23, 2002 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nasamad   Click Here to Email nasamad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it may be because Enterprise is still occasionally raided for parts by NASA.
Not for flight use but more for strength tests etc. I suppose to see how the metal I bearing up over the years.

Adam

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lunarrv15
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posted September 23, 2002 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lunarrv15   Click Here to Email lunarrv15     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
when was Enterprise retired? how many shuttles are active now?

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Gordon Reade
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posted December 01, 2002 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gordon Reade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are now four active shuttles; Atlantis, Columbia, Discovery and Endeavour.

Too bad there isn't a Beagle. We would then have shuttles whos names start with A, B, C, D and E. All of them named for sailing ships of discovery. But I'm getting off topic and the religious people would never stand for it!

Enterprise was used in the the approch and landing tests but never flew in orbit. It was retired more then 15 years ago.

The NASM always has first call on anything NASA discards. In other words when ever NASA desides to get rid of something The Air and Space Museum gets to say, "We want it." or We'll pass." before anyone else.

You can bet they'll want Columbia but she may not be retired for another 15 years or so.

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Philip
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posted December 02, 2002 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philip   Click Here to Email Philip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I visited the NASM in Washington DC - August 2000 ... They had computer drawings and already planned to put the "larger pieces" at the new location ( Enterprise + SR-71 Blackbird + B-29 Enola Gay + etc ... )
Great location also easy to get over there for us Europeans !

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NC Apollo Fan
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posted December 02, 2002 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NC Apollo Fan   Click Here to Email NC Apollo Fan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Speaking of great ships of discovery, and specifically Endeavor - it is my understanding that one of the missions carried a piece of wood from the Endeavor's hull into space. Is this correct?

What a thrill Cook would have had to know that 200 years later a portion of his ship would orbit above the very coastlines that they had mapped!

Jonathan

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Gordon Reade
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posted December 03, 2002 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gordon Reade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think Capt. Cook would have believed it. If you were in his postion would you?

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