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Topic: Comparing KSC postmarks used for Apollo 11
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flyboycn2007
Member Posts: 20
From: china
Registered: Aug 2016
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posted 01-11-2025 08:08 AM
   
There are two Kennedy Space Center postmarks, the appearance is not the same. Please know the cover production process teachers leave a message to inform the situation. Are they all real? |
Axman
Member Posts: 658
From: Derbyshire UK
Registered: Mar 2023
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posted 01-11-2025 08:57 AM
The bottom one is a fake. |
bobslittlebro
Member Posts: 297
From: Douglasville, Ga U.S.A.
Registered: Nov 2009
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posted 01-11-2025 09:03 AM
That's the first time I've seen the bottom cancel. I would say the bottom one is fake in my opinion. |
Antoni RIGO
Member Posts: 335
From: Palma de Mallorca, Is. Baleares - SPAIN
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted 01-11-2025 09:36 AM
Please, can you post the full image of the cover with this fake KSC postmark? Thanks |
micropooz
Member Posts: 1815
From: Washington, DC, USA
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 01-11-2025 11:12 AM
The bottom is problematic at best. It looks like the date hub was typed on a typewriter. Maybe not a fake, but maybe the original date hub didn't transfer from the cancel machine to the cover, so someone typed one in(?) |
bobslittlebro
Member Posts: 297
From: Douglasville, Ga U.S.A.
Registered: Nov 2009
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posted 01-11-2025 11:31 AM
Very good pooz! I think you might be right! |
Axman
Member Posts: 658
From: Derbyshire UK
Registered: Mar 2023
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posted 01-11-2025 11:51 AM
Apart from the time and date plug which is the obvious give-away - the killer bars end too abruptly on the bottom one. They don't even reach the edge of the perforations on the stamp.It is also not crisp but very dark. It looks like a lithograph print of a scan of a genuine KSC cancel, one that only just caught the postage stamp (therefore being ideal material for a forger) but with an unusable (for the forger) cds ring. A computer scan was made of it, and the date portion very crudely edited in, and then a postage stamp affixed and a print made on top. The cds ring is too close to the box (probably because the cds on the cover from the scan of the box was obscured, and so a separate scan of a clear cds ring was used from another cover, one with a different date). There are other indicators too, like the two anomalous lines one long and squiggly and one short and straight emerging from the right hand side of the KSC emblem. Although from the posted image it is impossible to measure the dimensions of the postmark, it is possible to measure the ratio of postmark to stamp. And by careful measurement of a number of covers I own the 6c stamp: postmark box vertical ratio is 25:20.5 whereas in the bottom image above it is 25:23 100% fake in my opinion. |
flyboycn2007
Member Posts: 20
From: china
Registered: Aug 2016
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posted 01-11-2025 02:37 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Antoni RIGO:
Please, can you post the full image of the cover with this fake KSC postmark?
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Axman
Member Posts: 658
From: Derbyshire UK
Registered: Mar 2023
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posted 01-12-2025 03:39 AM
The "crew signed" (🤔🙄) cover explains why somebody would go to the trouble of faking the cancellation postmark.If the postmark is fake I assume one or more of the autographs are too (although that is just my instant initial reaction. The Neil Armstrong looks particularly dubious, but then again I'm notoriously unsure of any and all Armstrong signatures. The signatures look out of proportion to each other, the Armstrong too small and the Aldrin too big. The Collins is a mess. It just screams fake). I'm very much hoping you didn't pay a lot of money for it... |
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