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Topic: Space Cover 723: Sally-Amy-Moe Zero over One
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yeknom-ecaps Member Posts: 847 From: Northville MI USA Registered: Aug 2005
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posted 10-15-2023 10:21 AM
Space Cover of the Week, Week 723 (October 15, 2023) Space Cover 723: Sally-Amy-Moe Zero over OneThe "clean" Port Canaveral cancel that appears on early space covers by Clyde Sarzin has been written up in other collectSpace topics. But here is another interesting twist for a Sarzin cover. The flight was a launch of three black mice – named Sally, Amy, and Moe - in an Atlas missile nose cone that flew 650 miles into space on October 13, 1960, along with liberal rations of oxygen, oatmeal, peanuts and gelatin and a variety of scientific instruments. During the ride, the mice rode into the perilous inner Van Allen radiation belt and were also treated to ten minutes of weightlessness; then they survived a blazing dive back through the earth's atmosphere to a landing 5,000 miles downrange. The genetic lessons learned from radiation effects were valuable for putting humans into space in the upcoming Project Mercury flights. As can be seen in the top image, Sarzin obtained a number of Port Canaveral cancels using the "smeared" version of the postmark for the launch date of October 13, 1960. The middle image shows another Sarzin cover for the same launch, but it uses the "clean" version of the postmark. In addition, the "clean" postmark used the year 1961 instead of 1960. There was an attempt to "correct" the postmark date by stamping a "zero" over the "one" in 1961 as can be seen in the magnified image. The "one" can definitely be seen under the "zero." There is seemingly no reason for 1961 to be in the cancel at all if the covers were cancelled even months after the launch date in October 1960. The Sarzin covers are the only ones known to have the 1961 strikes of the postmark. Another interesting observation is the cachet itself – in all the covers I've seen with the smeared Port Canaveral postmark, the rocket is pointing to the 10 o'clock position. In all the covers I've seen with the clean Port Canaveral Zero over One covers, the rocket and mice have rotated to the right – with the rocket pointing to the 2 o'clock position. |
Axman Member Posts: 238 From: Derbyshire UK Registered: Mar 2023
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posted 10-15-2023 11:26 AM
Yes. I have a "smeared" version and the rocket is pointing to ten o'clock.There is one other major difference between the two versions: the strange hieroglyphic to the left of the left hand 1961 mouse (which doesn't exist beneath what was the bottom mouse in the 1960 version). My cover (a smeared version - the supposedly non-suspect authentic version, as opposed to the definitely suspect version) has the U.S. #1167 4¢ Camp Fire Girls stamp, which I am reliably informed was issued on November 1st 1960, which raises all kind of issues for a 13th October 1960 launch day cancellation!!! |
micropooz Member Posts: 1727 From: Washington, DC, USA Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 10-15-2023 01:30 PM
Great observation Axman! And looking at Yeknom's "smeared" cancel above, the stamp is the Baron Gustav Mannerheim Champions of Liberty issue, Sc #1165. Scott's lists this as issued on October 26, 1960, thirteen days after the flight... The "smeared" cancel Sally, Amy, Moe in my collection has the Credo issue on it, Sc #1142 issued on September 14, 1960, almost a month before the flight. See below: So it appears that Sarzin used a mishmash of appropriate date and later-date stamps in his smeared cancel version. |
Axman Member Posts: 238 From: Derbyshire UK Registered: Mar 2023
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posted 10-16-2023 09:35 AM
I'm not sure what's going on!Did Sarzin have one bunch of genuinely postmarked covers (the smeared), and another set of faked covers (the crisp zero over ones) to cope with an overabundance of orders? Or are the zero over ones an intended anniversary cover, that someone manipulated (forged) back into a launch cover? Or are some of the "smeared" actually real; but a really really good forger has reproduced a set using 'contemporaneous' stamps without properly checking the issue dates of those stamps? Or are all early Sarzins backdated cancels? And if the last, then not only the 'crisp' cancels are backdated, but the 'smeared' are too! Which opens up another entire can of worms — does that mean that all 'smeared' Port Canaveral cancellations, no matter the producer, are suspectedly backdated? |
Axman Member Posts: 238 From: Derbyshire UK Registered: Mar 2023
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posted 10-16-2023 12:42 PM
As I've said in a previous post, I'm not Sherlock Holmes.However. Having quite closely compared the two 'smeared' examples shown (mine with the Camp Fire Girls stamp and Tom's with the General Mannerheim stamp, both of which (the stamps) were issued post the launch/cancellation date it seems obvious that they aren't modern computer printed forgeries over the top of near contemporaneous stamps applied to clever fake covers. I say that because although the cancellations are very very similar, as you'd expect, they aren't exact reproductions. And, more to the point, the angle of attack for each cancellation is slightly different; which would preclude almost all pre-2020s Photoshop attempts at forgery. So, almost (99%) without doubt, Tom's and mine are not reproduction modern forgeries but almost certainly were backdated cancellations at or around the timeframe of 1960/1. (If Sarzin could have a genuine cancel device backdate a cover, I don't see any reason why Goldey or Gordon or Zazo or FitzGerald or Anybody else couldn't. It throws the whole Port Canaveral Astrophilatelic field into question). |
Axman Member Posts: 238 From: Derbyshire UK Registered: Mar 2023
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posted 10-17-2023 08:18 AM
I'm about to start to go back and check in my collection all Port Canaveral cancellations against date of issue for US stamps.I'll summarise later. (slight delay on that). |
micropooz Member Posts: 1727 From: Washington, DC, USA Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 10-19-2023 11:33 AM
So my takeaway from this discussion is that any Sarzin Sally/Amy/Moe, regardless of sharp or blurred postmarks, has a cloud over it.Has anyone seen a non-Sarzin Sally/Amy/Moe? A PAFB canceled Sally/Amy/Moe? |
Axman Member Posts: 238 From: Derbyshire UK Registered: Mar 2023
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posted 10-19-2023 12:39 PM
I believe it goes further than that. I think, basically, any Port Canaveral handstamp cancellation is suspect - not necessarily as a forgery, but definitely open to question regarding backdating practices. |
Ken Havekotte Member Posts: 3718 From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 10-19-2023 01:10 PM
There is an earlier posting of mine that touched on the possibility of postal backdating concerns at the Port/Cape P.O. era of the late 1950's until the early 1960's. Perhaps Sarzin was one of those "favorite" space cover dealers working with certain postal officials and/or postmasters. Just a few extended thoughts with no certain proof, but using postage stamp issues on covers before certain stamps had not yet been officially released is another issue altogether, most likely, done by a cover dealer(s). Ronson did this with a specific 5-cent US flag stamp that he affixed to some of his later Orbit cachet covers.
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randyc Member Posts: 883 From: Denver, CO USA Registered: May 2003
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posted 10-19-2023 02:39 PM
Goldey made covers for this launch and they have a Port Canaveral Hand Cancel. The one I have used the 4 cent Flag stamp which was first issued on July 4, 1960. |
Antoni RIGO Member Posts: 312 From: Palma de Mallorca, Is. Baleares - SPAIN Registered: Aug 2013
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posted 10-19-2023 04:41 PM
Besides all written here for the smeared PC postmark I would like to add another point.Time slug. Most of smeared PC Oct 13, 1960 bear P.M. time slug. Almost all Sarzin covers I have seen for this date bear a P.M. time slug. Dennis showed a cover that could be an exception. And for this, it is more valuable for me. However, and casually out of Sarzin covers, other covers for this same launch with smeared PC postmark bear normally an A.M. time slug. Here again two examples of two covers that I had shown previously in Aug 2018 inside SCOTW 457. Maybe some of you can think that AM/PM time slug is not very important but when no recovery covers are known, time slug appears to be the difference between launch (AM, if it happened before 12 noon) and recovery (PM, if it happened after 12 noon) space event. |
micropooz Member Posts: 1727 From: Washington, DC, USA Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 10-19-2023 06:06 PM
Thanks Randy and Antoni! And interesting observation about the AM and PM slugs in the postmark, Antoni! |
yeknom-ecaps Member Posts: 847 From: Northville MI USA Registered: Aug 2005
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posted 10-19-2023 06:31 PM
For reference - launch took place October 13, 1960 from Launch Complex 11 at 4:35 am EST and splashed down 25 minutes later north of Ascension Island. Recovered by USAFS Coastal Crusader. |
Antoni RIGO Member Posts: 312 From: Palma de Mallorca, Is. Baleares - SPAIN Registered: Aug 2013
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posted 10-20-2023 03:50 AM
Thanks for the reference Tom. It is very useful in this case.Then, purely all covers related to this launch should be a PC postmark with AM time slug. And all covers with PC postmark with PM time slug are less precise. |
Ken Havekotte Member Posts: 3718 From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 10-22-2023 04:00 PM
Though not related to the Port Canaveral hand cancel discussion topic of the Atlas flight with the three mice on Oct. 13, 1960, here is an airmail cover serviced by Finney/Nickel with an 8:00 am machine cancel at Patrick AFB. Inside the envelope cover was a picture of its recovery ship, the USAF Coastal Crusader, of which there are no known covers from the vessel. It's another different cachet though for this early animal research zero-g flight. |
Eddie Bizub Member Posts: 136 From: Kissimmee, FL USA Registered: Aug 2010
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posted 10-23-2023 08:11 PM
I too have a Patrick Air Force Base machine cancel similar to Ken's cover with a slightly different rubber stamp cachet. Mine has an 8:30 AM time slug in the cancel. |
Ken Havekotte Member Posts: 3718 From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 10-24-2023 11:46 AM
Looks like both airmail covers, Eddie, were serviced by Finney/Nickel. Many of them from these two early space cover servicers were on airmail envelopes. I also have both original rubber stamp cachet wood-block devices (I believe Swanson designed) when acquiring that estate along with about a hundred different more with wood block rubber stamps. |
Antoni RIGO Member Posts: 312 From: Palma de Mallorca, Is. Baleares - SPAIN Registered: Aug 2013
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posted 10-24-2023 03:58 PM
And still another one PAFB cover with different RSC. |
Axman Member Posts: 238 From: Derbyshire UK Registered: Mar 2023
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posted 10-25-2023 04:43 AM
As the mice were named Sally, Amy and Moe to represent the acronym SAM in the name of the USAF School of Aviation Medicine, I prefer the cachets with their names in that order as opposed to the Amy Sally Moe cachets.I now need to find a cover to add to my collection with a Sally, Amy, Moe cachet postmarked on the AM of 13th October by Patrick Air Force Base machine cancel... |