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Topic: Space Cover 442: Soyuz 11 crew autographs
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cvrlvr99 Member Posts: 171 From: Arlington, TX Registered: Aug 2014
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posted 11-14-2017 12:29 PM
Space Cover of the Week, Week 442, November 12, 2017 Space Cover 442: Soyuz 11 Crew AutographsI have the signatures for every astronaut and cosmonaut who went into space during the first 25 years from Gagarin to, and including, Christa McAuliffe. But the toughest of the lot was Soyuz 11. That was the craft in which a valve of some kind was not tightened (as I recall) and the three cosmonauts, V. Volkov, V. Patsayev and G. Dobrovlosky died during the return to Earth phase of their mission. Only Volkov had flown before, on Soyuz 7, and I had his signature for that flight, but the other two are next to impossible to locate. However, several years ago I bought the pictured cover that was signed by seven cosmonauts at a party, shortly before the Soyuz 11 launch. So, in the event that any of you ever run across these three signatures, the attached cover shows what they look like. There are seven signatures shown. In order of their appearance from the top of the cover down you can see: Those marked with an asterisk (*) are the Soyuz 11 crew members. - Alexei Yeliseyev: Soyuz 5, 8 and 10
- (*) Vladislav Volkov: Soyuz 7 and 11
- Georgi Beregovoy: Soyuz 3 (deceased)
- (*) Victor Patsayev: Soyuz 11
- (*) Georgi Dobrovolsky: Soyuz 11
- Anatoli Filipchenko: Soyuz 7 and 16
- Pavel Popovich: Vostok 4 and Soyuz 14 (deceased)
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onesmallstep Member Posts: 1327 From: Staten Island, New York USA Registered: Nov 2007
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posted 11-15-2017 05:56 PM
Great cover and signatures! The death of the Soyuz 11 crew was due to a valve being popped open by the force of the Soyuz service and descent modules separating at the same time, rather than sequentially, and loosening a seal that normally would be removed after the air pressure was equalized in the Earth's atmosphere. It took only seconds, sadly not enough time for the crew to react. |
eurospace Member Posts: 2656 From: Berlin, Germany Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 11-16-2017 11:36 PM
Can you share the source from where you got this cover from?I am quite familiar with the autographs of those who are more frequent on the market. Yeliseyev, Beregovoy, V. Volkov, Popovich, Filipchenko. My trust in their authenticity on that cover is not very strong. They all seem very heavy handed and miss the dynamic of their natural signature. |
fimych Member Posts: 235 From: Boston MA, USA Registered: Jun 2015
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posted 11-18-2017 01:22 PM
I believe that at least several signatures on this cover are faked. There are several reasons and not only my opinion. |
Bob M Member Posts: 1790 From: Atlanta-area, GA USA Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 11-19-2017 07:17 AM
Signatures of the doomed Soyuz 11 crew are controversial and have been seen from various sources for years. More about this can be said later. |
cosmos-walter Member Posts: 721 From: Salzburg, Austria Registered: Jun 2003
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posted 11-20-2017 08:52 AM
I agree with Juergen and Efim that these signatures do not look good.I never was offered any picture, cover or card signed by complete Soyuz 11 crew I believed to be genuine. |
cvrlvr99 Member Posts: 171 From: Arlington, TX Registered: Aug 2014
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posted 11-25-2017 12:56 PM
Thanks to all who were able to tell me that these were fake signatures. Soviet autographs are not my strong point so I, and probably several others learned something from this. That's a plus. |
Bob M Member Posts: 1790 From: Atlanta-area, GA USA Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 06-21-2021 09:31 AM
Concerning autographs, and forgeries, of the doomed Soyuz 11 crew, I have a section about astronaut forgeries, including the Soyuz 11 crew, on my old website, which hasn't been up-dated in years. However, the section on forgeries still has merit and besides Soyuz 11 forgeries, those interested can also see a sad assortment of other forgeries, including Armstrong and Apollo 11 forgery material. | |
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