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Topic: MA-6 USS Noa Cover with PM Time Slug
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Ross
Member Posts: 552
From: Australia
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 03-09-2013 07:10 AM
   
The below classic MA-6 USS Noa cover (John Glenn's recovery ship) sold on eBay for an amazing $1482.55! This may be a record for this cover. The market may be starting to recognise how rare this cover really is. Depending on your view, this cover may be the rarest of all the US Manned Primary Recovery Ship covers (the USS Noa was a Secondary Recovery Ship but actually recovered John Glenn). As readers of another collectSPACE message thread will know this is one of a number of classic Recovery Ship covers which have brought amazing prices on eBay during the last two weeks. The following are the best examples. - MR-3 USS Lake Champlain (less than perfect example) sold for $2482.55!
- MR-4 USS Randolph Helicopter Recovery cover sold for $1336!
- MA-6 USS Randolph Helicopter Recovery cover also signed by John Glenn sold for $1475!
- A second MA-6 USS Randolph Helicopter Recovery cover sold for $821.
Lesser Recovery Ship covers, while not bringing the spectacular prices of the classic covers, are bringing sold prices as long as they are signed, scarce or have an unusual cachet. |
stevedd841
Member Posts: 299
From: Millersville, Maryland
Registered: Jul 2004
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posted 03-09-2013 08:38 AM
My John Glenn USS Noa PM time slug recovery ship cover is to the same person, Mrs. Trudy Woods. I understand that this may be an alternate addressee for space cover collector, Robert Schoendorf, of Glendale, Long Island, New York. Does anyone know this for sure? Great USS Noa recovery ship cover in the continuing discussion for USS Noa's recovery of Glenn. Many thanks for showing it. |
Ross
Member Posts: 552
From: Australia
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 03-10-2013 07:20 AM
Does anyone else have a MA-6 USS Noa cover with the PM time slug? I would like to take an inventory to get an idea of how scarce this cover actually is.Thanks in advance. |
stevedd841
Member Posts: 299
From: Millersville, Maryland
Registered: Jul 2004
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posted 03-10-2013 01:56 PM
David Ball, author of "American Astrophilately, the First Fifty Years," has a John Glenn primary recovery ship cover for USS Noa with a PM time slug for February 20, 1962, in his collection. |
Ross
Member Posts: 552
From: Australia
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 03-11-2013 07:17 AM
Eddie Bizub from Liberty Bell 7 Space Covers adds another USS Noa cover with PM time slug. Thanks Eddie. |
Joe Frasketi
Member Posts: 191
From: Florida USA
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 03-11-2013 12:36 PM
I find it unusually odd that all four covers mentioned in this post all have the same mailing address. Maybe she had a connection with the ship's post office? |
NAAmodel#240
Member Posts: 359
From: Boston, Mass.
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted 03-11-2013 02:31 PM
Trudy was one of two daughters (the other collected stamps) of consummate collector Robert Schoendorf. Robert had covers carried in captured V2 rockets at the end of WW II. He went on to be a world-class collector (dealer?) in both astro and polar philately. He would use Trudy as a shell requestor, particularly when there was a limit to the number of philatelic requests permitted. |
cosmos-walter
Member Posts: 834
From: Salzburg, Austria
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted 03-13-2013 04:30 PM
In my collection I am showing a Glenn USS Noa cover addressed to V. Eismont. Rather than the Trudy Woods covers the stamp on the left upper side seems to originate from the ship's post office.Moreover, I have got two more Trudy Woods covers. Most of all Trudy Woods covers I like Steve's since it has an early John Glenn signature.  
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Axman
Member Posts: 346
From: Derbyshire UK
Registered: Mar 2023
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posted 01-22-2024 09:42 AM
I too have a PM time slug cover.I bought it sometime early last year off eBay from a dealer I use regularly. It was up for just a few minutes when I spotted it, auction or best offer. I wanted it but didn't have a clue to its value, so I emailed him how much approximately he thought it was worth? But he had no idea either. So I offered him $90 and he accepted. It's yet another Trudy Woods.  |
Joel Katzowitz
Member Posts: 872
From: Marietta GA USA
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 01-22-2024 12:54 PM
After reading Bob's post I dug through my covers and found a USS Randolph cover with a PM time slug, a signature from the ship's captain, and a signature from John Glenn. |
Ross
Member Posts: 552
From: Australia
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 01-23-2024 08:09 AM
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Originally posted by Axman:
So I offered him $90 and he accepted.
What a bargain! These covers are selling for many hundreds of dollars in recent years. |
Axman
Member Posts: 346
From: Derbyshire UK
Registered: Mar 2023
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posted 01-23-2024 09:04 AM
It was a very very very lucky find. I'd literally been reading through Cavallaro 'The Race to the Moon' and had just read about the USS Noa backdated covers when I'd gone onto eBay and there was a very similar cover to the one on page 133.To be honest, I thought it was a really ugly cover, and I really didn't like the cachet photo of Glenn in his white jacket and dickie-bow. I had only weeks before won a Been in Space auction for a 'Goldcraft' Noa cover postmarked 23 February. I nearly didn't send off the message to the eBay vendor, and when it came to giving an offer I merely based it around the same amount I'd purchased the back-to-port cover. Until this, and the related thread, emerged this week I had absolutely no idea what a bargain it was! |
Axman
Member Posts: 346
From: Derbyshire UK
Registered: Mar 2023
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posted 02-03-2024 01:03 PM
I've quite often wondered about the cinderella stamps used on these covers? Who produced them? And just now, literally just now, I found the answer...They are all from something called "Men in Space" a Golden Stamp Book printed in 1961.  
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micropooz
Member Posts: 1754
From: Washington, DC, USA
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 02-03-2024 03:46 PM
Yep, that's the source of a lot of the cinderellas! I still have my copy of that book from the 1960's! Unfortunately, as a kid, I stuck all the stamps down inside the book, usually pretty sloppily (is that a real word?)... |
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