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Topic: Space Cover 195: Shuttle SCA flown covers
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Bob M Member Posts: 1824 From: Atlanta-area, GA USA Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 01-05-2013 12:39 PM
Space Cover of the Week, Week 195 (January 6, 2013) Space Cover #195: Covers flown on the Shuttle Carrier Aircraft, NASA 905With the recent retirement of the workhorse Boeing 747, Shuttle Carrier Aircraft (SCA), NASA 905, I thought it appropriate to show some covers from early in its career. First, here's a very brief history of SCA/NASA 905: It was acquired by NASA from American Airlines in 1974, and finished its career in 2012 by delivering three Space Shuttle Orbiters, Enterprise, Discovery and Endeavour, to their final resting places. NASA 905 began its work by serving as the air-launch platform for the Enterprise ALT flights in 1977; flew 70 of the 87 orbiter ferry flights during the operatioinal stage of the Space Shuttle Program; and ended with its orbiter museum delivery flights. In all, it took off and landed more than 6,300 times and will now spend its old-age retirement years in Houston. The top three covers were flown on the SCA on December 2, 1976 on its first test flight with interior modifications completed. The top cover is a collector-prepared flown cover with pilot documentation supplied; the middle cover a Robert Rank Space Voyage flown cover; and the bottom cover from the Boeing Employees Stamp Club with a stuffer card inside supplying documentating information The next covers were flown one day apart in January 1977, with both being flown at Seattle/Boeing Field by Chief Boeing pilot Paul Bennett. The last two covers were flown in the SCA on its acceptance flight from Boeing/Seattle to NASA/Edwards AFB in preparation for the Enterprise ALT Program. The top cover is another Rank Space Voyage cover (indicating it's #805 of 1050 flown), with the bottom cover being a Stan Henderson/3-Muscateers cover also flown on that flight. It would be interesting to learn how so many dealers' covers were flown on the SCA, but no such information is known to this collector. |
Apollo-Soyuz Member Posts: 1300 From: Shady Side, Md Registered: Sep 2004
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posted 11-04-2018 05:33 AM
The Boeing Employees Stamp Club flew covers on this first flight of the Shuttle Carrier Aircraft. Can anybody tell me how many covers were flown? |
4allmankind Member Posts: 1081 From: Dallas Registered: Jan 2004
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posted 11-07-2018 10:19 AM
Mine has an insert that also states it was flown on the flight, but doesn’t detail the number flown. |
Ken Havekotte Member Posts: 3522 From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 11-07-2018 12:34 PM
I am trying to relocate a letter I had received from William Rice, a Boeing public relations director in Seattle during the mid-1970s, indicated that a thousand covers had been flown/carried for the company's employees stamp club on this particular "1st flight" in Dec. 1976. My own covers of the same event were signed by the Boeing chief project pilot Frank Bennett and Frank Curtis, manager of the Boeing 747 Shuttle Carrier Aircraft program. Once found, I'll report back later to confirm. |
thisismills Member Posts: 475 From: Michigan Registered: Mar 2012
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posted 11-07-2018 11:35 PM
I have a cover that was carried aboard a ferry flight in 1974 with the final destination being Edwards AFB. I've read that N905NA was first used at Dryden Flight Research Center (now Armstrong) for trailing wake vortex research before being converted into the SCA.Since it has both American Airlines and NASA crew signatures, I figured this was the transfer flight from AA to NASA. Would love to know more about covers from the early test flights before SCA and if this is the earliest possible flown cover for this aircraft with NASA's involvement. |
Ken Havekotte Member Posts: 3522 From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 11-08-2018 03:54 PM
Yes indeed, it would certainly appear that this rare flown/carried cover was the first "turn-over" 747 flight from American Airlines to NASA at the Dryden Flight Research Center.NASA purchased the used 747-123 (N9668) from American Airlines (AA) on the same date depicted on the above illustrated cover, July 18, 1974. It was the 86th 747 off the production line at Everett and was delivered to AA on Oct. 29, 1970. By the time NASA had purchased the same aircraft, it had only logged 8,999 flight hours. When in NASA hands, the space agency re-registered the aircraft as N905NA. The cover's early flown/carried cachet format reminds me of a Sean Marsar and/or Charles Simpson type production. To my knowledge, this is the only such flown cover that I have seen for this early-related 747 SCA program history event. |
albatron Member Posts: 2804 From: Stuart, Florida Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 11-08-2018 10:32 PM
USAF Test Pilot LTC Bob Mosley, who dropped the X-15 with Fitz Fulton, went to Rockwell after leaving the USAF. His last duty station was at Patrick AFB, as CO of the EC-135N ARIA Squadron. His crew took the famous photo of Apollo 8 re-entering. His job at Rockwell, was to physically purchase 905, and oversee the refitting and mods. Somewhere I have a photocopy of the release form "giving" the aircraft to NASA (who funded it). It is signed by him, Fitz and Fred Haise for the ALT program. Just some useless trivia — Bob still lives in the Melbourne area and I lunch with he and Al Crews monthly. I brought Fred Haise to join us once, and he and Bob were inseparable the entire time talking about ALT and those days. Some more useless trivia, those of you who recall the "Smilin Jack" comic strip, should recognize the name "Mosley." Bob's brother Zack Mosley, was the author/cartoonist. Bob also did some of the strips in between WWII and Korea. |
Ken Havekotte Member Posts: 3522 From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 11-10-2018 06:38 AM
Good to see your posting, Al, and I had forgotten that Mosley lives in the Melbourne area not too far from the space center, along with Crews.I did have Fred Haise over for a couple of visits to my home, and sure enough, he was more interested and excited when talking about ALT than Apollo. With ALT, Fred told me on his first visit, that he had been on the very start of the ground floor with the initial planning, engineering design, procedures, training, and research flying. It was a "test pilot's dream" he would say than in comparison to Apollo, which had already been years in the making before he joined NASA in 1966.
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astro-nut Member Posts: 1025 From: Washington, IL Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 11-10-2018 11:36 AM
Excellent collection of SCA covers. I have always been interested in NASA 905 and NASA 911. Does anyone know how many flights did NASA 905 flew as American Airlines passenger jet before it was purchased by NASA for SCA operations? Also, the same for NASA 911? I think 911 was operated by Korean Airlines, but not sure? It would be interesting to know their first and last flights as passenger jets, etc. Having seen NASA 905 for the first time last week at JSC was totally awesome!! Thank you. |
thisismills Member Posts: 475 From: Michigan Registered: Mar 2012
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posted 11-19-2018 03:21 PM
I did some more reading on this topic with many thanks to Dennis Jenkins' wonderful book "Space Shuttle: Developing and Icon." Below is a summary of SCA N905NA's acceptance timeline as described in Volume One, Chapter 8, Page I-383. - Oct 29, 1970 - Delivered to American Airlines.
- Feb 17, 1974 - Put into flyable storage by American Airlines at Roswell, NM.
- May 18, 1974 - Based on the inquiry for sale, American Airlines puts aircraft back into commercial service.
- June 15, 1974 - Last commercial flight, American Flight 6 from Los Angeles to JFK, NY.
- NASA requested upgraded 43,500-lbf P&W JT9D-3A engines.
- American swapped two in Los Angeles prior to final commercial flight.
- Remaining two swapped upon arrival in New York.
- June 16, 1974 - Ferry flight from New York to American maintenance base in Tulsa, OK, by an American Airlines crew.
- June 19, 1974 - Bill of sale for $15.6 million.
- June 20, 1974 - With acceptance inspection completed, American livery removed except for red-white-blue cheat-line, and tail painted light grey.
- June 21, 1974 - 21 minute check flight, 7 discrepancies identified, including #4 engine losing most of its oil.
Crew: Albert J. Brown - American Peter E. Trott - American J. Foster Parsell - American Joe Algranti - NASA Passengers: 9 observers from American, NASA, and Rockwell. - June 22, 1974 - 2 hour check flight to verify fixes resolved from the prior flight.
Same crew as June 21.Formal transfer to NASA complete after flight. - July 18, 1974 - Ferry flight from Tulsa, OK to Edwards Air Force Base, CA.
Crew: Melvin R. Burton - American Peter E. Trott - American Joe Algranti - NASA A. J. Roy - NASA This seems to confirm that the July 18 cover would be the first possible flight cover with N905NA as an official NASA aircraft. I wonder if there are any covers from the first ferry flight on June 16 or either of the two check flights in Tulsa. |
Ken Havekotte Member Posts: 3522 From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 11-19-2018 04:18 PM
Nice work with all the timeline entries of the milestone and flight events from 1970 onwards of the 747 SCA when American Airlines had control of the aircraft. Of course, a big thanks to Dennis Jenkins, as already pointed out, for his excellent space shuttle development book, of which I have a copy as well of this particular issue. I'll keep checking some of my earlier space shuttle cover reports, etc., in seeing if any other 747 covers pop up from the early 1970s. There is a good chance other flown covers might be out there. |
flyboycn2007 Member Posts: 14 From: china Registered: Aug 2016
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posted 09-23-2022 10:54 PM
I'm confused!I have an item of the shuttle plane carrying, I don't know if that's the right thing to say,There are two lines of text on the cover: This cover was flown aboard the 747 shuttle plane. It was carried on the 63rd flight. It was numbered. As shown in the picture below, but I don't know the background of the carry of this item, how many were carried,anyone know, please tell me. |
Ken Havekotte Member Posts: 3522 From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 09-24-2022 01:08 PM
The Boeing Company did accept and carried aboard hundreds and hundreds of covers on the NASA-905 747/SCA acceptance and configuration flights in Dec. 1976 and Jan. 1977. So besides the Boeing stamp club covers that were flown (at least 1,000) along with many others, as Bob indicated, space cover collectors and dealers had many covers flown, such a Rank's Space Voyage Covers (1050 flown), Robert Boudwin's dealership, and Henderson's 3-Muscateers mostly on the Dec. 2nd and Jan. 14th flights. What I am not sure of is how many other dealers managed to have covers onboard those months when Boeing took over the flight test and ferrying role under contract from Rockwell's Space Division. |
Ken Havekotte Member Posts: 3522 From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 09-25-2022 05:41 PM
Here is a quick selection of additional flown shuttle carrier aircraft (SCA) covers, also of which, I wanted to include some non-flown covers from 1974-77, of which, there are many more from which to choose.For Jeff, I had forgotten, that I did have one of the first known carried/flown 747-N905NA covers from July 18, 1974, from Tulsa, Oklahoma, to Edwards Air Force Base, California, when American Airlines handed over the special aircraft when NASA had officially acquired the jumbo jetliner in the summer of that year. The signatures of the American Airlines and NASA pilot crews are the same that Jeff has on his cover during this early flight configuration test phase. See top left cover above. The rubber stamp cachet covers not included in the prior depictions (not flown) are those by space cover dealers Ray DuBeau and Sean Marsar. There had also been a cover servicer "Out West" that was able to cancel SCA covers for DuBeau, Marsar, and others (myself included) at Edwards Air Force Base. At the moment I had forgotten his name, but will report back later. The two photos in the middle of the montage are from an inside N905NA visit of mine in Oct. 2012 before NASA retired its first SCA a year later. The photos of 905 came from KSC's Shuttle Landing Facility at Runway 33's Parking Apron on the south strip. Note the interesting add-on logos near one of the entrance doors outlining the flight history of 905 from the 1970's onwards. American Airlines took delivery of the Boeing 747 in Oct. 1970. It was one of 16 747-100s that the carrier operated between 1970-85. Once NASA had acquired the 747 aircraft in 1974 as Bob said in his opening post, it had been flight registered as #N905NA for the ALT/Enterprise program and as a future shuttle orbiter-carrying transporter. The modified shuttle-ferrying plane was dismantled in 2014 and then delivered in 2016 to NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston, Texas, for preservation. Today its on public display in the area of Space Center Houston's "Independence Plaza" with an orbiter vehicle replica attached to it. | |
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