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posted 03-18-2019 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Headshot   Click Here to Email Headshot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When Deke Slayton was assigned to Mercury-Atlas-7, he decided to name the Mercury capsule Delta 7. Did he ever design an insignia to be painted on its side? Or was he removed from flight status before he reached that point?

If a design was created, does any cSer have an image of it?

astrorero
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posted 03-20-2019 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrorero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Retrorocket Emblems had debated on a Kickstarter for a Delta 7 emblem and Freedom 7 II emblem. As far as I know, nothing ever came of it. The emblems are pictured on their web page.

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posted 03-20-2019 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liembo   Click Here to Email Liembo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only non-anniversary type commemorative I am aware of is this one, and I do not know who produced it. It is about 3" in diameter.

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posted 03-20-2019 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom   Click Here to Email Tom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm pretty sure that Freedom 7 II emblem was painted on the side of the Mercury spacecraft on display in Washington, D.C.

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posted 03-20-2019 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Skyforce1   Click Here to Email Skyforce1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Freedom 7 II" is indeed painted on the Mercury capsule at Udvar-Hazy in Chantilly, Virginia.

Liembo
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posted 03-20-2019 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liembo   Click Here to Email Liembo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are correct! The artwork for the Freedom 7 II patch design was taken from that capsule artwork. The intent was to compliment the Mercury 7 patch set of capsule artwork that was already produced by someone else.

James913
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posted 03-21-2019 02:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for James913   Click Here to Email James913     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I purchased this Delta 7 fantasy patch from Randy Hunt in November 2003. He had several of these patches at that time, so I assume that he had them made up (I never saw them in multiples anywhere else).

Same design as the one above, but slightly different – a lighter Earth color, purple outline around the central 7 Delta, somewhat more detail on the capsule and small differences in the MERCURY 7 font. The one above may be a later Hunt reissue from a different manufacturer.

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posted 06-23-2020 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ptj4403   Click Here to Email ptj4403     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
About 10 or 15 years back, I did some searching through some old NASA archives and found Deke's design with a picture of a sample patch. It's very similar to these two but there are differences.

The red delta is lined in royal blue and the patch's edge is a teal and not wide.

lucspace
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posted 06-24-2020 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lucspace   Click Here to Email lucspace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would you be willing to share that image?

Liembo
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posted 06-24-2020 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liembo   Click Here to Email Liembo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well shoot I could have used that information about 6 weeks ago before I released the fantasy spacecraft art patch for his proposed mission. Can you share a scan?

David C
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posted 06-24-2020 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Talk about untimely disclosure. Better late than never though I guess. Time for another patch project?

Go4Launch
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posted 06-24-2020 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Go4Launch   Click Here to Email Go4Launch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It seems odd Slayton would have designed an actual patch for his flight in the middle of the program, when none of the previous three astronauts or Carpenter had done so. It could exist as art for his spacecraft, so I’d like to see any evidence from 1962 as well.

Henry Heatherbank
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posted 06-25-2020 05:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Henry Heatherbank     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah I agree with this as well. It just doesn't seem right. Happy to be proven wrong but as far as I can recall mission patches/decals (as distinct from artwork on the Mercury spacecraft) were not in discussion until the Gemini program (Gordo).

lucspace
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posted 06-28-2020 05:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lucspace   Click Here to Email lucspace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps Slayton did not discuss anything but just went ahead and had a sample of his design made.

One thing about it bothers me, though. Why would an astronaut depict space as a white backgound? I sort of feel this could be an error or just a time-saving choice in producing a sample. I know a lot of samples I have had produced involved such issues. My bet is that, had the mission and patch actually materialised, the background would have been black.

Any thoughts?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 06-28-2020 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More information is needed on what "old NASA archives" means, as NASA also collected information from third parties. For example, the NASA History Office in Washington, DC had files pertaining to the souvenir Mercury patch AB Emblem designs without noting they were later-created commemorative patches.

The design above reminds me of this other unofficial emblem from a vintage but often seen souvenir plaque. There are obvious differences, but I could see one inspiring the other.

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