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Liembo Member Posts: 842 From: Bothell, WA Registered: Jan 2013	posted 12-05-2015 03:40 PM ISS Expedition 51 mission patch The International Space Station's (ISS) Expedition 51 begins with the undocking of Soyuz MS-02 in February 2017. New crew members will arrive shortly thereafter on Soyuz MS-04. Expedition 51 will be commanded by astronaut Peggy Whitson of NASA. Her crewmates include cosmonauts Oleg Novitskiy, Alexander Misurkin and Nikolai Tikhonov, astronaut Mark Vande Hei of NASA, and Thomas Pesquet of the European Space Agency.
Liembo Member Posts: 842 From: Bothell, WA Registered: Jan 2013	posted 12-05-2015 03:45 PM Thomas Pesquet gave a look at the Expedition 51 insignia in pin format on Twitter: Le magnifique pin's de l'expédition 51 / The stunning expedition 51 pin! Designed with @AstroPeggy
hoorenz Member Posts: 1040 From: The Netherlands Registered: Jan 2003	posted 12-06-2015 06:05 AM Nice, but I am a little bit puzzled by how they run the names around the patch in relation to the orientation of the flags. Some names and the Russian and French flags are upside down, while the American flag is rotated 180 degrees to keep it upright.
Russian Member Posts: 518 From: France Registered: Nov 2012	posted 12-07-2015 03:41 AM We know already what is the official design for the ISS Expedition 51 logo? If Russian flag is upside down on it NASA will have to modify the logo.
Philip Member Posts: 6222 From: Brussels, Belgium Registered: Jan 2001	posted 12-07-2015 07:55 AM It all depends how you look at it... any Heraldry protocol doesn't apply to space patches I presume?
dcfowler1 Member Posts: 141 From: Eugene, OR Registered: May 2006	posted 12-07-2015 11:47 PM Since The Institute of Heraldry doesn't design them, I would say no.
Liembo Member Posts: 842 From: Bothell, WA Registered: Jan 2013	posted 01-07-2016 12:43 PM High res artwork via Pesquet:
LM-12 Member Posts: 3805 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010	posted 01-07-2016 09:21 PM Very nice design. Very nice indeed.
lucspace Member Posts: 510 From: Hilversum, The Netherlands Registered: Oct 2003	posted 01-08-2016 02:50 AM A very stylish design, great use of colour. However, the names look quite messed up. I do not understand the choice of putting in names upside down, which I believe to be a first in a manned space patch. I also do not like the irregular kerning (spacing between characters) in order to fill the available space. But quite unforgivable is the really messy positioning of some letters: both the 'W' in Whitson and 'H' in Misurkin's name are sitting too high. This is reproduced in the pin and I am afraid we will see it again in the embroidered patch. A shame, for this makes the difference between a good design and a perfect one, which was within reach, I feel.
hoorenz Member Posts: 1040 From: The Netherlands Registered: Jan 2003	posted 01-08-2016 10:20 AM quote: Originally posted by lucspace: A very stylish design, great use of colour. However, the names look quite messed up. Expedition 50 and 52 also suffer from some remarkable font problems. We used to have these problems a lot some 25 or so flights back, but gradually, things started to improve. Whatever progress was made with the fonts over the past few years, has somehow been lost with these latest designs...
KAPTEC Member Posts: 635 From: Madrid, Spain Registered: Oct 2005	posted 01-17-2016 11:45 AM Beautiful. Very beautiful but... I'm absolutely agree with Luc and Erik. It's a pity.
MSS Member Posts: 1018 From: Europe Registered: May 2003	posted 07-13-2016 03:01 PM From @LiNa8294 on Twitter: Get a first look at the mission patch for Exp.50/51 crew
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 50824 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999	posted 08-04-2016 09:54 AM I missed this back in April, but Expedition 51 commander Peggy Whitson wrote about the patch and its designer, Sean Collins, as part of her "The NASA Village" website. Recently I stopped by to drop off an Expedition 51 koozie and hat to Sean Collins. He was the principal artist for the design of our Expedition 51 patch/logo which are on both. Whitson also shared the official description for the Expedition 51 insignia: From as early as the 11th century, coats of arms have been used as emblems representing groups as small as families to as large as countries. The Expedition 51 patch is designed as a modernized international coat of arms, blending the traditional shield shape with our modernized symbol of achievement, the International Space Station (ISS). The background represents our home world and its inhabitants, and on the right, outer space. The bi-color ISS is the bridge between the two, symbolizing the benefits on Earth of space research, and at the same time our mission to explore deeper into space, on a path to further discovery and knowledge.
Kevin T. Randall Member Posts: 1528 From: Chesham, Bucks UK Registered: Dec 2008	posted 08-26-2016 07:10 AM This ISS-51 patch has product design number 254901 Made In USA 07/1655 date code. They were manufactured on the same small sample machine again, like the ISS-52 patches were with the same date code 07/1655. Update: The original crew ISS-51 patch has also been found with date codes 12/2015 and 9/16/20.
Russian Member Posts: 518 From: France Registered: Nov 2012	posted 10-26-2016 07:11 AM With the MS-03 launch now Nov. 18 (Baikonur time), will the crew have corrected ISS 51 patches on their training suits? We haven't seen yet the ISS 51 logo with Fischer and Yurchikhin instead of Misurkin's crew. Will AB Emblem be able to deliver to NASA these patches before the launch early enough to send them to the crew at least to Baikonur? Many people have doubts...
Kevin T. Randall Member Posts: 1528 From: Chesham, Bucks UK Registered: Dec 2008	posted 10-26-2016 11:38 AM It will depend on if the revised design/crew change patches have been manufactured yet?
Russian Member Posts: 518 From: France Registered: Nov 2012	posted 10-26-2016 11:49 AM As far as I understand it is Erik who sends ISS patches to Russia but for on board suits by Kentavr. My point is for training suits the crew put on for TsPK and Baikonur trainings before their launch. And for these suits the ISS patches come from NASA. In any case I wrote already before with Russian flag upside down NASA would have redo the logo. It is the case...
AshleyBoykin Member Posts: 24 From: Weaverville Registered: Aug 2016	posted 10-26-2016 12:12 PM Rest at ease. We are working with the astronaut office very closely to hammer out the final details of this patch. We can only produce the emblems for the training suits, astronauts flight allotments etc., after we receive final approval from the astronauts and NASA officials. We are very close to having the final product completed. I think that it is very likely that we will be able to produce these in enough time for the astronauts to have them during training.
hoorenz Member Posts: 1040 From: The Netherlands Registered: Jan 2003	posted 10-26-2016 03:17 PM quote: Originally posted by Russian: In any case I wrote already before with Russian flag upside down NASA would have redo the logo. From what I have heard, the flags are no longer upside down and they also got rid of the 'kerning' problem.
AshleyBoykin Member Posts: 24 From: Weaverville Registered: Aug 2016	posted 10-27-2016 06:14 AM That is correct. All flags are now the correct orientation And I believe we have corrected all spacing between the text. It is going to be a beautiful patch! Hoping to have approval for it shortly!
waa49 Member Posts: 185 From: Neu-Isenburg, Germany, Hessen Registered: Sep 2015	posted 10-29-2016 10:19 AM How about patch/pin change of ISS Expedition 51? There is also a crew change. Any information available?
Kevin T. Randall Member Posts: 1528 From: Chesham, Bucks UK Registered: Dec 2008	posted 10-29-2016 02:19 PM Yes, if the original ISS-52 crew become the ISS-54 crew, ISS-53 become the ISS-52 crew, ISS-54 become the ISS-55 crew and ISS-55 become the ISS-53 crew. So where does the crew change effecting ISS-51 fit in to this exchange? Is it ISS-56? Or is one of the above wrong?
hoorenz Member Posts: 1040 From: The Netherlands Registered: Jan 2003	posted 10-29-2016 03:39 PM Half of 52 (Yurchikhin/Fischer) is simply also half of the 51 crew, that is why 51 is affected. And yes, new patch and pin for Expedition 51 - same design, but with only five names on it and some redistribution of flags and stars.
MSS Member Posts: 1018 From: Europe Registered: May 2003	posted 11-16-2016 10:05 AM There is a first look at the new patch during today's press conference at Baikonur.
hoorenz Member Posts: 1040 From: The Netherlands Registered: Jan 2003	posted 11-16-2016 06:13 PM Good to see the names are no longer upside down either, which seems to be a last minute redesign of the original redesign. Of course there is no up or down in space, and it might have worked with a circular patch, but it looked weird on a shield shaped logo, which has a very distinct orientation.
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 50824 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999	posted 11-18-2016 10:07 AM The revised Expedition 51 artwork:
Russian Member Posts: 518 From: France Registered: Nov 2012	posted 11-25-2016 10:43 AM The new version of the ISS 51 patch was also taken by the MS-03 crew to the ISS to replace the previous version Kentavr put on their on board suits. With velcro backside I think. I got this information from a friend who was with MS-03 crew in Baikonur. Let's find photos from the ISS now...
Hart Sastrowardoyo Member Posts: 3466 From: Toms River, NJ Registered: Aug 2000	posted 11-26-2016 06:25 PM So we'll have a flown patch for a crew that doesn't exist? Has this happened before - aside from flying Lance Bass' nametag which was already on the spacesuit?
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 50824 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999	posted 11-26-2016 07:07 PM There may be (and probably are) other examples, but for one, STS-133 patches with Tim Kopra's name flew aboard Discovery.
Russian Member Posts: 518 From: France Registered: Nov 2012	posted 11-27-2016 11:14 AM The correct last version of the ISS-51 patch will be on spacesuits of MS-04 crew.
hoorenz Member Posts: 1040 From: The Netherlands Registered: Jan 2003	posted 12-20-2016 12:31 PM First, an image of Thomas Pesquet's onboard Kentavr suit with the old patch. These were the suits and patches the crew were wearing when they entered ISS. The photo was taken last August at the Kentavr factory; the Soyuz MS-03 patch still had to be applied. And next, an image of the new patch. As you can see, the border is a little wider than the first version - resulting in the patch being a little larger than the first one. (For Kevin: 269637 MADE IN USA 11/1620. But I do not know if the crew took up patches from the same production run, it might have been from a smaller "55" batch.)
hoorenz Member Posts: 1040 From: The Netherlands Registered: Jan 2003	posted 12-20-2016 02:49 PM quote: Originally posted by Hart Sastrowardoyo: So we'll have a flown patch for a crew that doesn't exist? Has this happened before? Soyuz TMA-7/Expedition 12 crew had a Panchenko Expedition 12 patch on their Sokol suits with the name of Reiter (who, because of delays in the shuttle program, would be on Expedition 13). Also, the oval Planeta Zemlja produced Mir-24 patch with unflown crewmembers (Eyharts, Lawrence) was seen floating aboard that station.
Liembo Member Posts: 842 From: Bothell, WA Registered: Jan 2013	posted 01-17-2017 02:32 PM JSC Gift Shop (shopnasa.com) still has the original, official (Space Flight Awareness) Expedition 51 decals in stock.
Bill Nelson Member Posts: 151 From: Lakewood, Colorado U.S.A. Registered: Jul 2006	posted 01-25-2017 07:43 AM Does anyone have any idea when AB Emblem will have Expedition 51 patches available to the public?
Kevin T. Randall Member Posts: 1528 From: Chesham, Bucks UK Registered: Dec 2008	posted 02-10-2017 02:43 PM The Expedition 51 (revised five crew name) patches are due to be released Monday next week. P/D No. 269637 Made in USA 11/1655, 11/1620 and 2/17/20 date codes. Updates; 3/17/20 8/17/20 [JSC] A-B EMBLEM 01/1840 (China)
AshleyBoykin Member Posts: 24 From: Weaverville Registered: Aug 2016	posted 02-13-2017 08:26 AM Expedition 51 is now available from A-B Emblem (Item #269637).
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 50824 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999	posted 02-19-2017 11:10 AM quote: Originally posted by hoorenz: ...resulting in the patch being a little larger than the first one. Just to illustrate this:
Kevin T. Randall Member Posts: 1528 From: Chesham, Bucks UK Registered: Dec 2008	posted 04-10-2017 10:51 AM A very crude Russian made version of the Expedition 51 (Revised Crew Names) patch has come to light. It is not a TsENKI patch. It has a larger text for the names in a mid blue instead of navy blue, (as seen above). That mid blue is also used for the left side of the ISS and the space on the right.
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 50824 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999	posted 05-03-2017 06:04 PM From Thomas Pesquet: Sewing our Expedition patch onto our Sokol suits on Sunday [April 30]. Not our specialty, but Oleg and I got the job done! We are getting the Sokol suits ready for our return to Earth soon, and having the right patches is very important. The suits keep us safe if there is ever a sudden loss of pressure or fire inside our Soyuz capsule. We don't really sew the patches into our suits, that would make holes and sharp needles are to be avoided on the Space Station. Instead the patch and the suit have loops that we thread through with string and a blunt needle, tying a knot at the end.
Kevin T. Randall Member Posts: 1528 From: Chesham, Bucks UK Registered: Dec 2008	posted 03-29-2018 04:39 PM The sales department at AB Emblem are/were selling the Expedition 51 (original six crew names) 254901 patches, instead of the revised version (five crew names) 269637 patches. This looks to of taken place earlier this month. Some of these patches sold were pre-production 'samples' with a 'short date code' 12/15 (December 15th 2015), and first production run 12/2015 date code.