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Topic: Suggestions for replica space patch projects?
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spaced out
Member Posts: 3110
From: Paris, France
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 12-07-2012 08:27 AM
   
Having covered the Grumman LM insignias, replicas of the LM-1 and LM-3 patches, and replicas of 2TV-1, LTA-8, and others, does anyone have any bright ideas for me to make as my next replicas?I prefer to stick to the pre-Shuttle period for a number of reasons, not least the fact that by sticking to plastic backings and pre-Shuttle patches there is no risk of my replicas being confused for vintage patches in the future. Snoopy-based designs are out for copyright reasons. Otherwise I'm open to suggestions. |
perineau
Member Posts: 218
From: FRANCE
Registered: Jul 2007
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posted 12-07-2012 10:19 AM
Yes, a Gemini 9 memorial crew patch for Bassett and See. |
p51
Member Posts: 1642
From: Olympia, WA
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted 12-07-2012 01:34 PM
Did the T-38 operations have any special patches in the Apollo era? If so, I'd love one of those. |
onesmallstep
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From: Staten Island, New York USA
Registered: Nov 2007
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posted 12-07-2012 03:28 PM
Maybe patches/insignia carried by Navy UDT and other spacecraft recovery forces during Apollo? |
lucspace
Member Posts: 403
From: Hilversum, The Netherlands
Registered: Oct 2003
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posted 12-08-2012 02:41 AM
I would like an Apollo 11 'Texas art' replica; also, the Apollo program patch, although never worn by crews, merits a version faithful to the original art. |
Besixdouze
Member Posts: 235
From: Hebden Bridge, West Yorkshire, United Kingdom
Registered: Jan 2011
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posted 12-08-2012 03:27 AM
Here's my tuppence worth. Having recently picked up a 5" Skylab II patch and already owning the Apollo 17 5" initialled crew patches, how about a set of 5" Apollos 1 through 17. As no others have ever been manufactured they would be completely original so no chance of anyone passing them off as vintage. I'd assume the bigger area would guarantee a better image but also that the cost of producing them may be prohibitive. |
spaced out
Member Posts: 3110
From: Paris, France
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 12-08-2012 03:53 AM
- Gemini 9 Bassett/See memorial patch - I don't really do memorial patches, only replicas of patches or designs that existed at the time. This would be more a project for Tim Gagnon, although he's already created a fallen astronauts patch design.
- T-38 operations - I don't know of such a patch. Would probably be a pretty small market which would make it very difficult to break even on it. I don't produce these patches to make money as such but I do hope that they will eventually break even otherwise I'm effectively running a charity.
- Navy UDT patches - a possibility maybe, but again I would expect the market to be very small.
- Apollo 11 crew patch replica - worth thinking about. Do any collectors not have one of the originals already though?
- Set of 5" Apollo patches - interesting idea. As you say it should be possible to get closer to the original artwork on a larger area but they would be more costly to make. I guess the key thing would be how many people would want to buy these patches?
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perineau
Member Posts: 218
From: FRANCE
Registered: Jul 2007
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posted 12-08-2012 04:33 AM
Another "lighter" idea - a patch for Mercury 2 (Ham) and Mercury 5 (Enos) |
Gonzo
Member Posts: 596
From: Lansing, MI, USA
Registered: Mar 2012
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posted 12-08-2012 05:44 AM
Chris - my vote would also be for a replica of the A-11 Texas Art patch. You asked if collectors don't already have one. According to your own site, with recent sales being in the neighborhood of the $500-$700 range, I'd venture to that not many have one. (And I for one would be in that group with only Texas Art and the Space Spin-off patches missing from my collection.) A replica would therefore make sense to me! |
Besixdouze
Member Posts: 235
From: Hebden Bridge, West Yorkshire, United Kingdom
Registered: Jan 2011
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posted 12-08-2012 06:07 AM
Gonzo. Forward me your mailing address. I have a spare Space Spin Off Apollo 11 I'd be happy to let you have, this being the Festive Season and everything. |
astroborg
Member Posts: 200
From: Woodbridge, VA, USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 12-08-2012 08:51 AM
I second (or third!) the Apollo 11 Texas Art replica, as seen on the BIGs that the crew wore post-mission. |
SleeBaudrons
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From: Scotland
Registered: Sep 2012
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posted 12-08-2012 05:19 PM
I would like to suggest a replica of the original Gemini 6 patch, GTA 6, with the Agena target vehicle in the design. It would also be good to have replicas of the two Gemini 9 variants, one withe crew names on a tab, and the other with the names across the patch. |
garyd2831
Member Posts: 640
From: Syracuse, New York, USA
Registered: Oct 2009
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posted 12-08-2012 05:54 PM
I would make a motion to a very detailed Apollo 11 crew patch.How about some vintage looking Mercury and Gemini era NASA Vector/Meatballs? If the space shuttle was an option, STS-1 through 4 with some kind of hallmark to identify original vs replica. |
Robert Pearlman
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From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 12-08-2012 06:03 PM
Not quite a replica, but a set of quality Mercury patches featuring the spacecraft names as stenciled or painted by Cece Bibby on the capsules would be desirable. I know there was an earlier set created, but their quality left something to be desired. I could imagine each patch taking the shape and appropriate background stitching to look like a shingle from the capsule. Not only would these supplant the rather poor souvenir Mercury designs now produced by AB Emblem, but pay tribute to the recently departed Cece Bibby. |
garyd2831
Member Posts: 640
From: Syracuse, New York, USA
Registered: Oct 2009
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posted 12-08-2012 06:40 PM
I second Robert's idea for some Mercury patches.  |
davidcwagner
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From: Albuquerque, New Mexico
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 12-08-2012 07:03 PM
How about Russian/USSR patches? Like the ones on Leonov's suit during his spacewalk. |
KSCartist
Member Posts: 2896
From: Titusville, FL USA
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted 12-08-2012 08:39 PM
quote:
Originally posted by spaced out:
This would be more a project for Tim Gagnon, although he's already created a fallen astronauts patch design.
Thanks for the vote of confidence Chris. I'd be happy to work up a See and Bassett patch. But the Fallen Astronauts 12 inch commemorative isn't mine. |
Harald Kraenzel
Member Posts: 304
From: Dinslaken,Germany
Registered: Nov 2005
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posted 12-09-2012 07:26 AM
quote:
Originally posted by davidcwagner:
How about Russian/USSR patches? Like the ones on Leonov's suit during his spacewalk.
This is a great idea as I had a look at those in the past. But there is the copyright issue. Maybe Chris does have the right connections to solve this. |
KAPTEC
Member Posts: 578
From: Madrid, Spain
Registered: Oct 2005
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posted 12-09-2012 07:54 AM
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Originally posted by garyd2831:
I second Robert's idea for some Mercury patches.
Me too. A great idea I was thinking on it for years...And the Basset and See patch... I like it but are we sure they had sometime their names on the known patch? |
Apollo 8
Member Posts: 176
From: Vienna, Austria
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 12-09-2012 08:35 AM
Chris, I feel, You could do some more fine replicas for the Grumman-Collection: - Grumman LM Ground Support Patch (it would be great to have a real good replica of this patch!)
- Grumman Lunar Module KSC Patch
- Grumman Lunar Module Patch
- Grumman logo Patch (if there are no problems with any copyrights)
...and I am always looking (and never found some) for good replicas of - Recovery Patches of the Gemini and Apollo era
I am so interested in the Apollo era and it would be real great for me, to add Recovery Patch replicas to my collection! |
GoesTo11
Member Posts: 1309
From: Denver, CO
Registered: Jun 2004
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posted 12-10-2012 02:46 PM
I really like the Grumman/LM-related ideas.As an aside, this seems like as good a place as any to thank Chris for the very cool (and totally unexpected) little Christmas gift I received from him today...AWESOME!  |
Apollo 8
Member Posts: 176
From: Vienna, Austria
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 12-10-2012 04:26 PM
I said "thank You" to Chris via Email, but this is the right place to post it again. This Christmas Special Commemorative Patch is a WONDERFUL gift for someone whose nickname is "Apollo 8"! - Tomorrow I am going to frame it together with my Lion Brothers Apollo 8 Patch (bought from Chris), my Apollo 8 25th Anniversary Patch and my Frank Borman autograph. |
spaced out
Member Posts: 3110
From: Paris, France
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 12-10-2012 05:06 PM
Thanks for the many suggestions above.I am going to be tackling a replica of the Apollo 11 crew patch first, although this could be pretty challenging to replicate. Believe it or not the design uses no less than 13 separate colors of thread which goes a long way towards explaining why it looks so true to the original artwork. |
mach3valkyrie
Member Posts: 719
From: Albany, Oregon
Registered: Jul 2006
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posted 12-10-2012 05:50 PM
quote:
Originally posted by GoesTo11:
...this seems like as good a place as any to thank Chris for the very cool (and totally unexpected) little Christmas gift I received from him today...AWESOME!
I echo these thoughts. A very pleasant surprise. Thanks Chris! |
Cascader
Member Posts: 50
From: London, England, UK
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 12-10-2012 06:50 PM
I too received one of "Apollo 8 " Christmas patches, many many thanks. My thought on replica patches would be a Yuri Gagarin patch showing the historic first flight. I have a Russian pin commemorating the event. I will send scan to you Chris. |
Apollo 8
Member Posts: 176
From: Vienna, Austria
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 12-11-2012 03:38 AM
Chris, I am looking forward to your replica of the Apollo 11 crew patch! — That's an interesting project and I sure will buy one... |
KAPTEC
Member Posts: 578
From: Madrid, Spain
Registered: Oct 2005
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posted 12-11-2012 05:27 AM
As we say in Spain... (literal translate), "better late than never"... Thank you very much Chris for that wonderful patch. It will be shown in a honor place in my collection because it is a very important sign of friendship for me. Happy Christmas also for you and for all of you who read this thread my friends. |
Harald Kraenzel
Member Posts: 304
From: Dinslaken,Germany
Registered: Nov 2005
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posted 12-11-2012 08:12 AM
Today I received kind of a great surprise: a "real space Christmas patch" (Apollo 8) from Chris. That's a great gift and I enjoy it very much.We collectors have to thank you for these really great patches you made in the past and you turned it the other way around: you are sending a gift patch to all collectors in contact with you. That's a great idea. To all of you collectors: A Merry Christmas and A Happy New Year. |
garyd2831
Member Posts: 640
From: Syracuse, New York, USA
Registered: Oct 2009
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posted 12-11-2012 10:12 AM
Chris, I'm pleased to see you are working on an Apollo 11 patch. I know personally that I will purchase a number of them. I believe you will have a fare to strong market for them. |
johntosullivan
Member Posts: 162
From: Cork, Cork, Ireland
Registered: Oct 2005
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posted 12-11-2012 10:56 AM
I would love to see commemorative patches for each of the Mir Expeditions. There were 28 in total and the earlier ones had no patches.Likewise for the Soyuz/Salyut missions for which no patches were produced. Also I would like to see a patch for each of the SpaceShipOne spaceflights on its way to the X PRIZE.
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Gonzo
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From: Lansing, MI, USA
Registered: Mar 2012
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posted 12-11-2012 04:28 PM
TAE original artwork A-11? Chris, really? Can I make a pre-order? I agree, I think there will be a big market (relatively speaking) for this patch. I for one will take several! |
Apollo 8
Member Posts: 176
From: Vienna, Austria
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 12-12-2012 02:33 PM
Something I would like to add to my Apollo collection are "replicas" (they are not real replicas because these patches never existed) of the designs, that were done for the Apollo missions 18, 19 and 20, that never were flown. |
spaced out
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From: Paris, France
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 12-12-2012 02:54 PM
No artwork was ever created for the Apollo 18+ missions, so anything you might see is complete fiction. |
spaced out
Member Posts: 3110
From: Paris, France
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posted 12-12-2012 02:59 PM
One question on the Apollo 11 crew patch replica. A lot of people grumble about the fact that most patches are made in China but are you willing to pay the price for a 'domestic' product.This replica is going to be expensive to make already due to the multiple colors (the patches have to be put through the machines twice) so I'm going to be struggling to price them at my usual $15. If I have them made in the US then I would have to sell them for maybe $19. Is that going to work or am I just going to end up with lower sales so the project never breaks even? |
carl walker
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From: Netherlands
Registered: Feb 2006
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posted 12-12-2012 03:18 PM
Chris, what's the cost of them made in Europe, have you tried Stewarts in UK?
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GoesTo11
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From: Denver, CO
Registered: Jun 2004
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posted 12-12-2012 03:30 PM
I'd have no problem paying US $19-20 each. |
garyd2831
Member Posts: 640
From: Syracuse, New York, USA
Registered: Oct 2009
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posted 12-12-2012 04:36 PM
Chris, I would pay $20 a patch to have them made here in the United States. It hits us here at home and that this was a United States program. Keep it "Made in the USA" on this one! |
Gonzo
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From: Lansing, MI, USA
Registered: Mar 2012
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posted 12-12-2012 07:23 PM
Ditto on the above comments! $20 per? Can I pre-order yet?  |
GoesTo11
Member Posts: 1309
From: Denver, CO
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posted 12-12-2012 07:29 PM
Yeah, I'm another one of those fossils who still gets a bit irked at seeing "Made in China" on these things.  Since an accurate Texas Art Apollo 11 replica would be a "star" in my humble collection, as stated above I'd pay a premium of a few dollars to have them made in the USA. |
Apollo 8
Member Posts: 176
From: Vienna, Austria
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 12-13-2012 03:42 AM
20 USD would be O.K. for a high-quality replica patch! quote:
Originally posted by spaced out:
No artwork was ever created for the Apollo 18+ missions, so anything you might see is complete fiction.
I did not know that! It's a long time ago, that I found those sketches for the three patches somewhere in the internet (I can't remember where) and loaded them down on my PC. |
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