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Topic: STS-51L: Greg Jarvis' Hughes LEASAT patches
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Bob M
Member Posts: 1744
From: Atlanta-area, GA USA
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 04-06-2009 07:55 AM
   
I'm not actually a space patch collector, however, over the years I have obtained a fair number through various means. My favorite is a Greg Jarvis patch issued by Hughes for his 51L flight and I have just seen an identical one offered in the an upcoming auction.Its description states that it was never released by Hughes and only a handful were given out to selected individuals. Its description is contrary to what I was told by the person who gave me mine after the loss of Challenger. He informed me that these Jarvis/Hughes 51L patches were freely given out at the KSC Press Site before the launch and were not in short supply, as the auction description states. I have always wondered how rare/scarce/desirable these really are and if any patch collectors have more information about them? |
benguttery
Member Posts: 547
From: Fort Worth, TX, USA
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted 04-06-2009 09:29 AM
These patches are around, but not in very large quantities. |
hoorenz
Member Posts: 1031
From: The Netherlands
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 04-06-2009 10:25 AM
I believe Jacques even has a rarer patch - the Hughes/Jarvis patch for his original mission, 51D. Maybe he wants to post a scan? |
Go4Launch
Member Posts: 542
From: Seminole, Fla.
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 04-06-2009 11:07 AM
Bob, I agree with Ben. It is true that the blue Leasat patches were freely-distributed at the launch, but not the red (Jarvis) version. |
hoorenz
Member Posts: 1031
From: The Netherlands
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 04-06-2009 11:22 AM
Oh, we are talking about the blue one. Very common. I thought this was about the Greg Jarvis Mission Specialist 51L (with drawing of fluid experiment) patch. |
Go4Launch
Member Posts: 542
From: Seminole, Fla.
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 04-06-2009 12:09 PM
I forgot about the fluid experiment patch, which I now realize this thread is about!Yes, those were available at the press site; but certainly not thousands of them. So I still agree with Ben; but would add that the red Leasat patch worn by Jarvis is much rarer than even the fluid experiment patch. |
Voyager1975
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posted 04-06-2009 01:09 PM
I take it that Greg Jarvis was given the Hughes First Payload Specialist 51L patch even though that was the one patch he never wore. Just the Hughes patch and the Leasat program patch on his flight suit along with all the NASA patches. But as far as the personal patches go it looks like he only wore those two. |
Jacques van Oene
Member Posts: 861
From: Houten, The Netherlands
Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 04-06-2009 02:04 PM
I have this version:  But if that's a rare one I do not know... |
benguttery
Member Posts: 547
From: Fort Worth, TX, USA
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted 04-06-2009 02:44 PM
I have the orange, yellow, and blue one. |
Bob M
Member Posts: 1744
From: Atlanta-area, GA USA
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 04-07-2009 09:10 AM
So we've determined that these Jarvis/Hughes 51L patches aren't rare nor unissued and that the lot's description is in error. |
Go4Launch
Member Posts: 542
From: Seminole, Fla.
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted 04-07-2009 10:28 AM
Yes, that's a good summary. By the way, I have never seen the patch Jacques posted; I believe Jarvis did wear a "red Leasat" patch, although this patch is not it. Even so, I would suspect Jacques' patch is pretty rare, certainly more so than the one in the auction. |
benguttery
Member Posts: 547
From: Fort Worth, TX, USA
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted 04-07-2009 10:44 AM
I've never seen the one posted above either. Great patch. I think the one Jarvis and others wore is this one. |
Voyager1975
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Registered: Dec 2008
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posted 04-07-2009 10:58 AM
Yes, Greg Jarvis wore the red Leasat patch. All you have to do is look at the STS-51L Challenger crew photo. |
garyd2831
Member Posts: 640
From: Syracuse, New York, USA
Registered: Oct 2009
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posted 01-14-2012 04:28 PM
How rare is the LEASAT patch that Greg Jarvis wore on the STS-51L mission? I won on eBay a blue version similar in design to the one that Jarvis wore. The one that Jarvis wore had the color red as part of the color scheme. This patch is different from the souvenir ones that I have seen that states "Hughes First Payload Specialist" "Greg Jarvis". The version Jarvis wore only stated LEASAT on it.  
Editor's note: Threads merged. |
hoorenz
Member Posts: 1031
From: The Netherlands
Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 01-15-2012 08:20 AM
Blue patch is 3"; red patch is 4". Although at least two replica's of the 4" red patch are "out there" (one of them made by Stewart Aviation in England), I have never come accross the same type that Jarvis was wearing. While comparing any red patch you find to 51L photography, especially note the area where the two sphere like antenna's and the word "Leasat" are meeting.A smaller red version of the Leasat logo formed the center of the "Hughes First Payload Specialist" patch, when Jarvis was still supposed to fly on 51D. This was later changed to an image of his fluids experiment, because 51L did not plan to launch a Leasat satellite. I do have the exact blue patch you own (it comes up for auction a couple of times each year - it is not as rare as the real red version Jarvis was wearing). My patch originally came from the collection of Randy Wagner (the "good" Randy) who received many patches personally from astronauts. On the back of my patch, like on many of the patches I have from Randy's collection, is a typed up note: "gift from Gregory Jarvis". So, Jarvis was handing these blue patches out himself at the time of the flight and these can be considered "official", next to the rare red patch. |
Bob M
Member Posts: 1744
From: Atlanta-area, GA USA
Registered: Aug 2000
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posted 04-06-2013 12:50 PM
While not actually a patch collector, I have managed to acquire a number through the years, with a few that I've always been curious about their status and desirability.One is this Jarvis/Hughes First Payload Specialist patch, which from what I was told, was one of a number given out at the KSC Press Site at the time of STS-51L. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.  Editor's note: Threads merged. |
Ken Havekotte
Member Posts: 2913
From: Merritt Island, Florida, Brevard
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 04-06-2013 12:51 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Bob M:
One is this Jarvis/Hughes First Payload Specialist patch, which from what I was told, was one of a number given out at the KSC Press Site at the time of STS-51L.
The Greg Jarvis patch is indeed a special production from Hughes in which I was given a small quantity of them on the same day as the Challenger tragedy while at the shuttle press site's Joint Industry Press Center (JIPC). |
p51
Member Posts: 1642
From: Olympia, WA
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted 04-06-2013 12:52 PM
Three years after the 51L disaster, I was in art school with someone who'd worked for Hughes PR department. He told me they had tons of promotional materials for Jarvis's mission, all of which he said they dumped in the trash because everyone wanted to get the whole thing behind them. I bet some of them regret doing that now... |
EXO Planet
New Member Posts: 1
From: San Diego, CA, United States
Registered: Aug 2015
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posted 09-07-2015 02:59 PM
I still have some Hughes LEASAT stickers. |
BMacKinnon
Member Posts: 230
From: Waterford, MI. USA
Registered: Jul 2007
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posted 12-11-2016 10:40 AM
I am a volunteer at Michigan's Military and Space Heroes Museum in Frankenmuth, Michigan. Greg Jarvis was born in Detroit, Michigan and we are putting together a permanent display to honor and remember Greg. I am trying to locate an/any LEASAT patch for his exhibit. Either for purchase or long term loan. Also a Hughes patch. If anyone has any leads, please let me know. Thanks! (We have displays on 15 other Michigan astronauts.) |
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