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Topic: STS-123 / Endeavour mission patch
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Moonbase Alphan
Member Posts: 108
From: Space City, Texas
Registered: Dec 2006
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posted 08-14-2007 05:59 PM
  
Here's the just released STS-123 mission patch, interesting design: |
KSCartist
Member Posts: 2896
From: Titusville, FL USA
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted 08-14-2007 06:49 PM
An interesting design. But I would have made the "swoosh" with Gorie, Johnson and STS-123 a different color. Too much yellow.They are getting a bit creative in their concepts though, that's always a good thing. |
Tom
Member Posts: 1597
From: New York
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 08-14-2007 06:52 PM
Thanks for posting. Great looking patch! |
Greggy_D
Member Posts: 977
From: Michigan
Registered: Jul 2006
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posted 08-14-2007 06:53 PM
I'm from the "Less is More" camp. That's a lot of "stuff" to throw into the interior of the patch. I wonder how this is going to translate at AB. |
JGJ
Member Posts: 35
From: USA
Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 08-14-2007 07:56 PM
At least it's not another boring circle-based design... |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 42984
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 08-14-2007 08:14 PM
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Originally posted by KSCartist:
Too much yellow.
While I certainly see your point, I think the artist intended the yellow swoosh to complete the stylized halo around the astronaut emblem and therefore making it a different color might distract from that design element. |
JGJ
Member Posts: 35
From: USA
Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 08-15-2007 12:59 AM
One thing I noticed is that while it's nice that the mission patch pays tribute the some of the international (i.e. non-US/Russian) contributions to the ISS, the placement of the "Special Purpose Dexterous Manipulator" (aka "Canada Hand") really clutters up the design. Seriously, it looks like old Nintendo R.O.B. robot with a maple leaf on its chest. At least they integrated Japan's "Kibo Logistics Module" into the picture nicely. |
KSCartist
Member Posts: 2896
From: Titusville, FL USA
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted 08-15-2007 06:48 AM
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Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
I think the artist intended the yellow swoosh to complete the stylized halo...
I see your point Robert. It's there to represent the orbital trajectory from the Astronaut Pin. |
lucspace
Member Posts: 403
From: Hilversum, The Netherlands
Registered: Oct 2003
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posted 08-15-2007 12:16 PM
The yellow may turn out to be gold in the embroidered version, like in the current STS-118 patch. Anyway, I do like this design... |
NavySpaceFan
Member Posts: 655
From: Norfolk, VA
Registered: May 2007
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posted 08-15-2007 12:21 PM
I like this one, even thought the "Canada Hand" is attacking the orbiter  . The design also lends itself to adding a rocker at the bottom if necessary. |
OV-105
Member Posts: 816
From: Ridgecrest, CA
Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 08-15-2007 02:13 PM
I don't think that the "Canada Hand" will look too good in the patch. I belive they will not be able to show the detail like in the decal or a beta patcht. Kinda sad I hope it covers the whole program and the future. It is a lot to do but I bet it can be done with class. |
Jacques Tiziou
New Member Posts: 3
From: Washington, DC, USA
Registered: Aug 2005
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posted 08-18-2007 01:25 PM
Very original but so full it became very messy. I fully agree with Tim that the commander, pilot and STS-123 surface should not be yellow (nor gold) but blue with white text as the red party is. The shuttle program is American and we're not yellow! Many stars are. Red, White (the shuttle in the design) and blue would look and be better. Of course, in the order blue-white-red, it would also be a little French, with Leopold Eyharts on board. Can't forget my dual-nationality... Sorry! |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 42984
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 10-13-2007 05:23 PM
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Originally posted by lucspace:
Hang on guys... the yellow may turn out to be gold in the embroidered version, like in the current STS-118 patch.
The yellow is indeed yellow: an embroidered patch from the crew portrait: |
lucspace
Member Posts: 403
From: Hilversum, The Netherlands
Registered: Oct 2003
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posted 10-15-2007 03:48 AM
Well... hoping against hope, perhaps, but I'm not convinced this is the embroidered version. Looks like a print on felt or something. We'll know soon enough though. |
pargoo
Member Posts: 67
From: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Registered: May 2005
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posted 10-16-2007 01:33 AM
From NASA: STS123-S-001 — The crew patch depicts the space shuttle in orbit with the crew names trailing behind. STS-123's major additions to ISS (the ELM-PS installation with the shuttle robotic arm and the fully constructed SPDM) are both illustrated. The ISS is shown in the configuration that the STS-123 crew will encounter when they arrive. |
Jay Chladek
Member Posts: 2272
From: Bellevue, NE, USA
Registered: Aug 2007
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posted 10-16-2007 04:00 PM
I like it. The coloring is quite different from the typical blue, green and black mentality that has dominated other patches of recent memory. Plus it looks sharp on the orange flight suits as well. |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 42984
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 12-12-2007 11:58 AM
The 1J/A payload insignia: |
robsouth
Member Posts: 769
From: West Midlands, UK
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted 01-20-2008 08:02 PM
Probably would have been better without the astronaut emblem. |
Marwin2
Member Posts: 139
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Registered: Oct 2006
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posted 02-26-2008 01:28 PM
Who is the STS-123 patch designer?
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RMH
Member Posts: 577
From: Ohio
Registered: Mar 2001
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posted 02-26-2008 04:58 PM
I asked Greg Johnson when I saw him give a speech and he said it was designed by Robert Behnken. |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 42984
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 03-03-2008 01:32 PM
Here is the Canadian Space Agency's Dextre insignia:  For Kibo's insignia, see: JAXA's Kibo logo (STS-123, 124, 127). |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 42984
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 03-04-2008 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by RMH:
...said it was designed by Robert Behnken.
While not incorrect, it is also not the complete answer. Mike Foreman had a hand in its design, too, as Behnken and Foreman described in my interview with them yesterday. Their comments will be included in an upcoming article to be published after STS-123 launches. |
NavySpaceFan
Member Posts: 655
From: Norfolk, VA
Registered: May 2007
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posted 03-11-2008 07:38 PM
NASA.gov feature Launching Art Into Space Mark Pestana knows logos.  Not many artists are privileged to see their work fly in space. Pestana, a NASA research pilot at NASA's Dryden Flight Research Center, located on Edwards Air Force Base, Calif. designed the mission patches for nine space shuttle crews, including the STS-123 Shuttle Endeavour mission to the International Space Station. Image right: NASA Dryden pilot and artist Mark Pestana displays the STS-123 patch he designed. NASA photo/Tom Tschida. Other shuttle mission patches he's designed include those for STS-62, -59, -69, -83, -94, -86, -89, and -93. "Most crews have some idea what they want, and ask for help in assembling their ideas," Pestana says. "Some crews have no particular ideas and I get to start from scratch. Some also want specific colors or symbolism, some of which have hidden meanings. An example is a field of stars numbering the total number of children among the crewmembers. "I usually draft three or four designs," Pestana continues. "After further deliberation it narrows down to the final. In the end it's both fun and an honor to be asked to help, and then to see my art launched into orbit!" Image left: STS-123 mission patch designed by Pestana. NASA image. In addition to mission patches, Pestana has designed other items, such as the emblem for the NASA Johnson Space Center's Flight Crew Operations Directorate, and NASA Dryden's 60th anniversary logo. Pestana won first place in the space category of Aviation Week and Space Technology magazine's annual aviation art competition last December. His "The Quest for Mach 10" painting depicted NASA's X-43 aircraft, chased by an F/A-18, after launch on its record-setting hypersonic flight to Mach 9.8 in November 2004. A research pilot and project manager at NASA Dryden for the past nine years, Pestana pilots NASA Dryden's B200 King Air, the T-34C and the remotely piloted Ikhana aircraft. He also serves as co-pilot and flight-test engineer on the center's F/A-18 Hornet aircraft. |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 42984
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 03-18-2008 12:10 PM
Our STS-123 mission mementos article ran long, so I had to cut the quotes from our crew interviews about the mission patch. As they offer more detail to the above story, I'm thought I would include them here...Bob Behnken: "I won't take full credit for designing the mission patch. Mike Foreman, one of our other crew members, he was on the STS-120 crew and then we had to do some shuffling a while back and he moved over to the 123 crew. When he came, he came with a favorite patch design that didn't make the cut for the 120 crew. So we modified that one; the SPDM we included that, the JLP. I put those items all together and turned that into our crew patch. It didn't quite make the cut for the 120 crew, but we like it as our patch. "I think the thing I like about it the best is that the simplified logo that we ended up with on our shirts is really what we kind of, what we focused it on, being something we were happy with there, and then the rest of the patch kind of came together." Mike Foreman: "My last task on that [STS-120] patch was to tell them to change Foreman to Wilson. "I liked their patch but when I was the patch guy on 120, I got inputs from around the country. And so a guy sent this patch that we ended up with on 123, and I liked it and I put it out for the 120 guys and that's the one I voted on but the rest of the crew liked the one that they ended up with. So be it. I was excited about that patch, too. When I came to 123, Dom said, 'Bob is going to be the patch guy. I know Mike you've worked on patches but I don't want to make you do it again, so give it to Bob.' And I said, 'Bob, here's my portfolio with inputs from around the country' and he did the same thing, he laid them out on a table and this time we ended up with the one I liked best! "That's kind of, I don't know, serendipitous I guess, to end up with the patch I really liked... don't put that anywhere Pam can read it, but I like our patch better." |
KSCartist
Member Posts: 2896
From: Titusville, FL USA
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted 03-18-2008 12:22 PM
Hey Foreman - Why didn't you like my patch, huh? What was wrong with it? You broke my heart.Just kidding (and I am so telling Pam, so there!). |
Marwin2
Member Posts: 139
From:
Registered: Oct 2006
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posted 03-19-2008 11:21 AM
What's the JLP? |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 42984
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 03-19-2008 11:29 AM
JLP is the Japanese Logistics Pressurized module, which is also known as the Kibo Experiment Logistics Module - Pressurized Section (ELM-PS). |
Marwin2
Member Posts: 139
From:
Registered: Oct 2006
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posted 03-20-2008 03:01 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
Our STS-123 mission mementos article ran long, so I had to cut the quotes from our crew interviews about the mission patch.
Behnken and Foreman don't speak anything about Pestana's contribution. Why? |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 42984
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 03-20-2008 03:29 PM
They do, but in the process seem to indicate that Pestana's role may have been different than what the NASA article describes. Foreman said, "And so a guy sent this patch that we ended up with on 123..." and then Behnken notes, "So we modified that one; the SPDM we included that, the JLP. I put those items all together...", so what it sounds like is that Pestana submitted an unsolicited design for STS-120, which went unused by that crew, and then Foreman gave that design, along with others, to Behnken, who modified it for use by STS-123. |
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