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Topic: Soyuz TMA-10 mission patch
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Jacques van Oene Member Posts: 861 From: Houten, The Netherlands Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 03-09-2007 04:34 AM
The Soyuz TMA-10 crew patch: Credit: NASA TVThis patch was designed by Alex Panchenko and there are three versions of this patch, one each with a red, blue and black outer border. |
KSCartist Member Posts: 2896 From: Titusville, FL USA Registered: Feb 2005
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posted 03-09-2007 07:52 AM
I like this one. It's one of Pachenko's best work. |
johntosullivan Member Posts: 162 From: Cork, Cork, Ireland Registered: Oct 2005
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posted 03-09-2007 09:28 AM
I particularly like the off-target cross-hairs on final approach. |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42984 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 03-09-2007 09:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by johntosullivan: I particularly like the off-target cross-hairs on final approach.
In fact, they're on-target -- literally. The cross hairs appear to be pointing to the docking target, which is off-center to the docking adapter. |
johntosullivan Member Posts: 162 From: Cork, Cork, Ireland Registered: Oct 2005
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posted 03-10-2007 12:55 PM
I stand corrected. |
Bill Hunt Member Posts: 399 From: Irvine, CA Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 03-28-2007 05:02 PM
There are three versions, but are there three versions for sale? I've only seen two on Alex's website. |
Jacques van Oene Member Posts: 861 From: Houten, The Netherlands Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 03-29-2007 12:28 PM
NASA got the wrong image, the patch changed, (according to Panchenko, but I do not know why the crew is still wearing the old patch on their Sokol suits as seen on yesterday's photos from Baikonour). The stars were removed at the request of the commander, and there are other changes to, so I do not know were NASA got the image from but I think not from Panchenko... Panchenko has the "right" patch on his site... |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42984 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 03-29-2007 01:41 PM
Interesting... of course, we've had this discussion before (coincidentally about another of Panchenko's designs): what makes a patch "official"? The TMA-10 patch with stars has now appeared in the formal Sokol portraits for the crew (e.g. 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5) and on NASA TV (above). Does that make it official? What if NASA uses this artwork for their patch display at the front of Mission Control (and ditto for the Russian TsUP)? |
Mike Z Member Posts: 451 From: Ellicott City, Maryland Registered: Dec 2005
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posted 03-29-2007 04:15 PM
The patch on the photos are different than those on Panchenko's site. His do not have the three stars that are on the Russian Sokol suits. The colors and borders differ too. I wonder who made the patches worn by the cosmonauts? The stitching in the ISS is different too. |
KSCartist Member Posts: 2896 From: Titusville, FL USA Registered: Feb 2005
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posted 03-29-2007 08:30 PM
My rule of thumb is to regard whatever patch is worn by the crew on launch day as the official" one. Otherwise you can just get a headache trying to keep up. |
Jacques van Oene Member Posts: 861 From: Houten, The Netherlands Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 03-31-2007 05:18 AM
I think the crew will wear the patches with the stars on their Sokol suits during launch, and when they are in space on the suits they wear there you will see patches without stars... So both are "official" only it will be hard to get a patch with stars I think... |
Robert Pearlman Editor Posts: 42984 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 04-07-2007 01:14 PM
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pargoo Member Posts: 67 From: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Registered: May 2005
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posted 04-07-2007 10:25 PM
I think no matter what they describe as 'official', future generations will look at the launch footage and THAT is the patch that will be collected by space enthusiasts. And it looks much nicer with the stars anyway.Interesting to see they used the three-name Expedition 15 patch, too... |
Jacques van Oene Member Posts: 861 From: Houten, The Netherlands Registered: Oct 2001
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posted 04-11-2007 09:09 AM
No stars on the patch when they came aboard ISS... |