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Topic: Dragon Models 1:72 Saturn V rocket model
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the clocks running
Member Posts: 382
From: Rochester, NY
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted 07-13-2012 05:48 PM
   
I would not wait my friend. The Saturn V will probably not be issued by Dragon as a kit because this information would have probably been released by now.Pull the trigger and purchase this model if you really like it because Dragon may not re-release it and you will pay a premium on eBay if you purchase it too late. |
GoesTo11
Member Posts: 1315
From: Denver, CO
Registered: Jun 2004
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posted 07-13-2012 08:32 PM
Couldn't agree more. If you're "tempted beyond belief," pull the trigger. In cost/return terms alone, this model is one of the best space purchases I've ever made. |
Daugherty54
Member Posts: 594
From: Cabot, Arkansas, USA
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted 07-13-2012 09:29 PM
I agree with the posts above. I ordered one the first time but cancelled after some initial negative reviews. I reconsidered and bought one and I am glad I did. That 5 ft tall Saturn is impressive in my home office! heck I am thinking about getting another just to get Apollo astronauts to sign at Spacefest and ASF shows. |
Mike Okuda
Member Posts: 12
From: Los Angeles, CA
Registered: Jul 2009
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posted 07-16-2012 09:51 PM
My 1/72 Saturn V arrived today. I love it! |
divemaster
Member Posts: 1376
From: ridgefield, ct
Registered: May 2002
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posted 07-16-2012 10:49 PM
Curious as to what parts are metal and what parts are plastic.And did the shipped version come with white fairing fins and black F-1 engines? (I know, I'm picky.) |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 43206
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 07-16-2012 11:02 PM
There are no metal parts, the entire model is plastic (with the exception of the metal pin to stand the model on the base).The fins are white, the F-1 engines are dark gray. |
spacecraft guy
Member Posts: 37
From: San Francisco, CA USA
Registered: Sep 2006
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posted 07-17-2012 04:15 AM
I preordered from Flying Mule when I had not heard any recent news about the kit version release date, but I was sure that I had done it too late to get one. I was shocked to get a shipping confirmation e-mail! Thanks Flying Mule! |
divemaster
Member Posts: 1376
From: ridgefield, ct
Registered: May 2002
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posted 07-17-2012 06:35 AM
I lost the string somewhere...Is it possible to kitbash the Apollo 10 CSM/LES/LM/LSA to the BIG Saturn V so you a) get the LM and also can see it folded up inside the big model? Seems kind of silly that they wouldn't feature this in a $200+ model. |
apolloprojeckt
Member Posts: 1448
From: Arnhem, Netherlands
Registered: Feb 2009
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posted 07-17-2012 08:12 AM
I assume that the models in von Braun's office were also all 1/72 scale? So Dragon Models can still ahead.  |
the clocks running
Member Posts: 382
From: Rochester, NY
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted 07-17-2012 08:44 AM
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Originally posted by divemaster:
Is it possible to kitbash the Apollo 10 CSM/LES/LM/LSA to the BIG Saturn V so you a) get the LM and also can see it folded up inside the big model?
On page 3 of this thread you can see Pascal's Apollo 10/Saturn V modification. If you continue, kit bashing is discussed further. |
model maker
Member Posts: 130
From: NEVADA , USA
Registered: May 2012
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posted 07-17-2012 08:03 PM
When connecting the Apollo 10 to the Saturn V, what kind of "lip" or edge is there to firmly connect the two together? I want to know this before I break the joint of my SLA section of my Saturn V. How do the two connect to each other? There wasn't any pictures showing the bottom section of the Apollo 10 where it would attach to the Saturn V. |
TheBillhelm
New Member Posts: 1
From: Atlanta
Registered: Jul 2012
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posted 07-18-2012 09:59 AM
I've been lurking this thread for months. Thanks to everyone for the detailed and informative posts. You sold me. Mine just arrived from Pilot Wear, and was waiting for me when I got home from work last night. I am absolutely thrilled with it. The Detolf is a perfect fit. I did a little custom lighting (cut wood blocks and the Ikea Dioder), and I also added a wall decal from Wall Monkeys. I may end up trying to cram all of the manned space programs from Mercury through Apollo into this case. My current plan is to cut circular holes in the provided glass shelves and let the Saturn V rise through them. Dragon makes a 1/72 Redstone, and Real Space Models makes a 1/72 Atlas and Titan II. Does anyone know of a 1/72 Saturn 1B? I've Googled it quite a bit and haven't had any leads other than paper models. Here's my setup as of last night. |
cycleroadie
Member Posts: 452
From: Apalachin, NY USA
Registered: May 2011
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posted 07-18-2012 10:25 AM
Let me know how cutting the holes works for you, I thought of doing the same thing as it does waste some of my limited space for displaying thing. But I worry about losing strength in the shelves. I'd like to put some of the other Apollo 1/72 items from dragon that I have in the case with it, but was not sure how the shelves would react to the cutting. |
apolloprojeckt
Member Posts: 1448
From: Arnhem, Netherlands
Registered: Feb 2009
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posted 07-18-2012 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by model maker:
There wasn't any pictures showing the bottom section of the Apollo 10 where it would attach to the Saturn V.
What is your e-mail address, I can send photos.
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model maker
Member Posts: 130
From: NEVADA , USA
Registered: May 2012
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posted 07-18-2012 12:17 PM
I sent you an email with my email address, thank you for sending photos. |
model maker
Member Posts: 130
From: NEVADA , USA
Registered: May 2012
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posted 07-18-2012 12:19 PM
quote:
Originally posted by TheBillhelm:
Here's my setup as of last night.
I like your setup, very nice. I got mime from Pilot Wear as well, fast delivery. |
divemaster
Member Posts: 1376
From: ridgefield, ct
Registered: May 2002
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posted 07-18-2012 09:41 PM
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Originally posted by TheBillhelm:
Does anyone know of a 1/72 Saturn 1B? I've Googled it quite a bit and haven't had any leads other than paper models.
Other than the 1/70 Saturn 1B by Apogee, that's going to be next to impossible to find. Yes, it's cardboard, but it's well built and very accurate. The base of the first stage is so complex, that it's all but impossible to scratch build from plastic tubing unless you're very handy with a lathe. Believe me, I've done the research. |
divemaster
Member Posts: 1376
From: ridgefield, ct
Registered: May 2002
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posted 07-19-2012 12:05 AM
After reading everyone's posts, I've broken down and ordered the Saturn V and the Apollo 10 models from Dragon. I think, in the long run, I won't regret buying either...and I will do my best not to kit bash other than adding the LM portion to the Saturn V. If you're going to do something, do it right. I'm sure I'm going to go crazy over figuring out how to correct the fin and F1 engine colors. If I can stay away from the umbilical attachments, it will be a big plus on my end.But thank you to all of you for your input. It has all been invaluable. |
model maker
Member Posts: 130
From: NEVADA , USA
Registered: May 2012
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posted 07-19-2012 12:16 PM
For the fins, someone here used the matte clear masking tape around the fin letter, spray painted silver, removed the tape and had a correct silver fins. I am doing the same. |
cycleroadie
Member Posts: 452
From: Apalachin, NY USA
Registered: May 2011
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posted 07-19-2012 01:12 PM
I just used clear scotch tape, trimmed it close with my exacto knife, and the carefully pulled the tape after, did the trick and you could see to get it cut close. |
GACspaceguy
Member Posts: 2489
From: Guyton, GA
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted 07-19-2012 01:17 PM
I suff sanded the fins, painted them and then created a decal to put the letters back. |
Jay Chladek
Member Posts: 2272
From: Bellevue, NE, USA
Registered: Aug 2007
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posted 07-19-2012 07:09 PM
quote:
Originally posted by the clocks running:
I would not wait my friend. The Saturn V will probably not be issued by Dragon as a kit because this information would have probably been released by now.
Just because Dragon hasn't said anything yet doesn't mean they won't. I've heard a few rumblings from my contacts that a kit version of the Saturn V will be released eventually (not "if" but rather "when").My gut feeling is saying probably sometime in 2013 since at that point they will have done all the other kit issues of the 1/72 Apollo CSM (the J Mission set and ASTP will likely be their last kits and they are coming out pretty soon). I've inspected one of the pre-builts up close and can see how its parts are laid out. It is all plastic, so it isn't like some metal parts have to be replaced with plastic ones. I've been kind of tempted to get a pre-build to totally disassemble and rebuild from the ground up, fixing issues as I go. But that adds work. Everything I've seen and heard suggests a kit will come eventually, so I prefer to wait (I am a patient man). |
divemaster
Member Posts: 1376
From: ridgefield, ct
Registered: May 2002
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posted 07-19-2012 09:52 PM
quote:
Originally posted by cycleroadie:
I just used clear scotch tape, trimmed it close with my exacto knife, and the carefully pulled the tape after, did the trick and you could see to get it cut close.
Depending on how everything looks, I'll probably do the fins in Bare Metal Foil. The F-1's are another story. Are they removable?Supposedly, mine was shipped today. Should be interesting. |
the clocks running
Member Posts: 382
From: Rochester, NY
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted 07-20-2012 12:42 AM
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Originally posted by Jay Chladek:
Just because Dragon hasn't said anything yet doesn't mean they won't. I've heard a few rumblings from my contacts that a kit version of the Saturn V will be released eventually (not "if" but rather "when").
I understand what you are stating Jay. I just prefer to buy a model when it is released because once it goes you may not have an opportunity to buy it at the original price and forced to pay a premium. The Bandai Apollo 11 Saturn V is a prime example of this. We will cross our fingers and hope for a 1/72 Saturn V kit. |
divemaster
Member Posts: 1376
From: ridgefield, ct
Registered: May 2002
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posted 07-20-2012 01:13 AM
I see that Flying Mule is out of stock. I might have ordered the last one. |
the clocks running
Member Posts: 382
From: Rochester, NY
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted 07-20-2012 02:10 AM
Congrats Tracy! Glad that you made the purchase. I also bought my 1/72 Saturn V from The Flying Mule and was happy that I did. They are a great shop to work with. |
divemaster
Member Posts: 1376
From: ridgefield, ct
Registered: May 2002
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posted 07-20-2012 02:32 AM
It was the next best thing to an impulse buy. I just knew I'd be sorry if I didn't get it (and add the LM from the Apollo 10 model). If my wife was still alive, she would kill me.  Now I have to decide if I'm going to build a LUT and a crawler in 1/72 scale, too. And, for the record, I've asked Tomas at New Ware models if he'd produce a set of umbilicals in 1/72 scale. Can't hurt to ask. Man, if Wally Schirra was still with us, he'd be all over me to get a Saturn IB version built. That man loved his toys. |
cycleroadie
Member Posts: 452
From: Apalachin, NY USA
Registered: May 2011
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posted 07-20-2012 06:38 AM
quote:
Originally posted by divemaster:
The F-1's are another story. Are they removable?
The F-1s and the fins are actually separate parts that you have to assemble to the stage anyway, so easy for you to work on. |
sev8n
Member Posts: 236
From: Dallas TX USA
Registered: Jul 2012
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posted 07-21-2012 05:19 PM
I received mine earlier this week, and frankly I'm a bit disappointed in the fidelity and finish of the model. With the poor seams and numerous sink marks I've seen so far, I will probably fix these issues and repaint the entire model. I have ordered the decal sheet for the Apogee 1/70 Saturn V to see if they can be used on the Dragon model. |
the clocks running
Member Posts: 382
From: Rochester, NY
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted 07-21-2012 09:58 PM
I was prepared for some level of disappointment when I received my model because I did a lot of research before I ordered it. Hey, for a few hundred dollars and the giant scale that Dragon provides can we really be all that surprised or disappointed. I like the model but really do not love it. I will keep it though. |
the clocks running
Member Posts: 382
From: Rochester, NY
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted 07-21-2012 10:02 PM
quote:
Originally posted by divemaster:
I'll probably do the fins in Bare Metal Foil.
I have come to love Bare Metal Foil. The Flat Aluminum Bare Metal Foil will probably work out perfect for this job. |
divemaster
Member Posts: 1376
From: ridgefield, ct
Registered: May 2002
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posted 07-26-2012 11:15 PM
My 1/72 Apollo 10 and 1/72 Saturn V arrived today. I opened up the Apollo 10 box. VERY impressive display piece. A lot of work went into this on Dragon's part for a very niche market. I'll open up the Saturn tomorrow and see how it looks.But, yes, Bare Metal Foil is the answer to many problems. Great product. Also, gold candy wrappers are a great substitute for Kapton if need be. |
the clocks running
Member Posts: 382
From: Rochester, NY
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted 07-26-2012 11:53 PM
I have found that gold origami paper works for Kapton as well. |
divemaster
Member Posts: 1376
From: ridgefield, ct
Registered: May 2002
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posted 07-27-2012 12:50 AM
Bare Metal Foil works very well in a lot of circumstances. I have to do a resin 1/144 CSM. I will spray the entire model in flat white primer - two or three coats worth. Then wrap the SM in aluminum Bare Metal Foil. Using a SHARP hobby knife, but out the radiators. You have a perfect CSM with a boost protect cover [in my case] and perfect white radiators. The rest of the SM looks like it's metal. A wonderful product for those that want a metal, not metal paint, look. It should work wonders on the Saturn V fins. I'll just have to have a look at the F1 engines. I might have to go after Metalizer paint if they're not the right color, otherwise, it will make me nuts. I'm surprised Dragon, with all of the work that they put into this, missed these two very simple corrections - and it's just color, not the shape of the part. |
apolloprojeckt
Member Posts: 1448
From: Arnhem, Netherlands
Registered: Feb 2009
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posted 07-27-2012 12:59 AM
The paint color Gunmetal is a very good, mixing with iron color and you get this:  |
the clocks running
Member Posts: 382
From: Rochester, NY
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted 07-27-2012 04:16 AM
Pascal, Is that F1 engine from the Dragon 1/72 Saturn V?Great job modifying it! |
apolloprojeckt
Member Posts: 1448
From: Arnhem, Netherlands
Registered: Feb 2009
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posted 07-27-2012 07:22 AM
No, this is the smaller version 1/96. I'm busy with 1/72, I find the turbopump exhaust manifold too small on the 1/72. |
garymilgrom
Member Posts: 1966
From: Atlanta, GA
Registered: Feb 2007
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posted 07-27-2012 11:45 AM
quote:
Originally posted by apolloprojeckt:
I find the turbopump exhaust manifold too small on the 1/72.
Pascal - I assume you will be running hydrazine and LOX through the turbopumps - is that why you need them sized properly? |
apolloprojeckt
Member Posts: 1448
From: Arnhem, Netherlands
Registered: Feb 2009
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posted 07-27-2012 12:14 PM
Yes, so as you see the photo of the other scale that details will come on my model. I have experienced in the past some people don't see this extra made details not at all. |
divemaster
Member Posts: 1376
From: ridgefield, ct
Registered: May 2002
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posted 07-27-2012 10:00 PM
I hate to admit it, I'm a bit disappointed with the big Saturn for all of the reasons listed.Pascal - very nice color for the F-1's as well as the added detail. You need to do the same for the J-2's on the 1/72 version. They just missed too many small, but obvious, items. The S-IVB thrust structure is making me nuts (along with the lack of the umbilical doors). It's obvious that they designed this to make into a kit. They put a lot more work into the Apollo 10 die-cast version. But I've blown the same amount of cash on worse things. |
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