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Topic: Dragon Models 1:72 Saturn V rocket model
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Kal-El
New Member Posts: 8
From: Plainfield, Illinois 60544
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted 01-03-2014 07:48 PM
  
Just received mine from Amazon today. They had it for $224.99 with free shipping. I couldn't pass this up at that price. Now if I can still find a Detolf at Ikea. |
Yamato
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posted 01-06-2014 07:04 PM
RealSpace Models now has a batted F-1 engine set for the 1:72 Saturn V. The cost is about half of what the LVM set costs. Unfortunately, they don't have any photos of the parts out of the box and I do not know of any reviews. Does anybody have any experience with RSM? |
jutrased
Member Posts: 65
From: North Smithfield, RI USA
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 01-09-2014 08:24 AM
I just looked at the listing for the Dragon 1/72 Saturn V at The Space Store and noted this in the description: While the model makes use of the Command/Service Module (CSM) and Launch Escape System produced earlier, the rest of this monstrous 1/72 scale rocket comes from brand new toolings. Has anyone seem this "new tooling"? I'm curious as to what changes were made (and if suggestions from cS members were included). |
Robert Pearlman
Editor Posts: 43206
From: Houston, TX
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 01-09-2014 08:31 AM
I believe that description was from the original release — it was referring to the then-new model using new tooling for the Saturn V stages, while including the spacecraft from the previous Apollo CSM sets. |
cycleroadie
Member Posts: 452
From: Apalachin, NY USA
Registered: May 2011
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posted 01-09-2014 11:26 AM
Concur with Robert, that is when it was originally released. They were referring to the CSM / SM having been done earlier for the Apollo 7,8,9,10,11 models, and the rest of the model was new. No changes are made in this edition that I am aware of. |
Planetary
Member Posts: 24
From: Huntington Beach, CA, USA
Registered: May 2013
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posted 01-09-2014 10:07 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Kal-El:
Now if I can still find a Detolf at Ikea.
The Detolf glass cabinets have been discontinued at Ikea as of Jan. 1 and almost all stores are now permanently out of stock on it. |
Planetary
Member Posts: 24
From: Huntington Beach, CA, USA
Registered: May 2013
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posted 01-09-2014 10:12 PM
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Originally posted by Yamato:
Does anybody have any experience with RSM?
I've ordered kits from Realspace models in the past and have been happy with the service and quality of their kits. I have the smaller 1/96 batted F1s for the Revell Saturn V and the accuracy and detail is good and the castings I'd rate at about a 8/10 - there are some small air voids that need filling and some mold line clean-up required. I too am looking at both kits for an option of having batted F1s and would love to see a side-by-side comparison before I make the choice. |
sev8n
Member Posts: 236
From: Dallas TX USA
Registered: Jul 2012
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posted 01-11-2014 12:12 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Planetary:
The Detolf glass cabinets have been discontinued at Ikea as of Jan. 1 and almost all stores are now permanently out of stock on it.
I just returned from the Dallas Ikea store, I bought the last Detolf they had in stock. |
apollolem
Member Posts: 14
From: Novi, MI USA
Registered: May 2013
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posted 01-13-2014 11:54 PM
Of course, I waited too long to purchase the Detolf....anyone with a suggestion for a similar style glass case? |
Sam Que
Member Posts: 180
From: Chicago, IL, United States
Registered: Feb 2009
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posted 01-14-2014 06:57 PM
I found a similar display at Amazon, although twice the price. I too waited too long to make it over to IKEA. |
E2M Lem Man
Member Posts: 846
From: Los Angeles CA. USA
Registered: Jan 2005
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posted 01-15-2014 12:06 PM
I think that this is great! It brings a sense of life to the model displayed. Any possibility that this will be offered in any other scales — like 1/96? |
keymichael1855
Member Posts: 176
From: Virginia Beach, VA, USA
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted 01-16-2014 10:45 AM
Are you referring to the MLP and LUT background for the Dragon? If so, I could adapt both of them for you in 1:96 scale. Just send me an email if you, or anyone else, is interested in the setup in 1:96 scale. |
sev8n
Member Posts: 236
From: Dallas TX USA
Registered: Jul 2012
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posted 01-17-2014 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by apollolem:
Of course, I waited too long to purchase the Detolf... anyone with a suggestion for a similar style glass case?
While my local store shows them out of stock with no expected availability date, they ARE now showing them as available by ordering online. While shipping would be $$$ I wonder if they would ship to your local store for pickup? |
apollolem
Member Posts: 14
From: Novi, MI USA
Registered: May 2013
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posted 01-19-2014 12:58 AM
Good idea, I'll check with Ikea to see if they can ship to my area store. The irony of this is that I'm only 4 miles from the Detroit area store here and just kept putting off purchasing two Detolfs never thinking that they might be discontinued. |
Kevmac
Member Posts: 267
From: College Station, TX
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 01-26-2014 11:03 PM
Keep checking the IKEA website or call to check future stock possibilities. Dallas and Houston just got a large stock in. I was able to get two picked up for me. Thought I had missed my chance also. Maybe a store in your geographic area will get more. |
sev8n
Member Posts: 236
From: Dallas TX USA
Registered: Jul 2012
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posted 02-17-2014 03:38 PM
My local Ikea has replenished their stock of Detolf cabinets numerous times since I bought what I thought was their "last" one. According to their website the Dallas store currently has twelve Detolfs in stock. I now wonder if this "out of production" claim made months ago was nothing more than rumor or, worse, an attempt to increase sales. |
haveblue
New Member Posts: 9
From: Bay Area, CA, USA
Registered: Sep 2012
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posted 02-18-2014 01:24 PM
Actually, the SKU of the Detolf was changed, thereby 'discontinuing' it. The actual product itself wasn't discontinued - the SKU and packaging was changed, making it a new product. Stock of this 'new' version should be available now. |
AussiePete
Member Posts: 104
From: Adelaide, South Australia
Registered: Jan 2014
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posted 02-18-2014 07:51 PM
Just built the Dragon 1/72 Saturn after years of not building. I think I did a pretty good effort but who's ever 100% happy. Will post photos later.Keen to get the better scale batted F-1s at some point. Building this model reignited my love of modelling. I might add that seeing these models in the Detolf display case I had to get one. Lucky my local IKEA had them in stock. |
sev8n
Member Posts: 236
From: Dallas TX USA
Registered: Jul 2012
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posted 02-18-2014 08:48 PM
quote:
Originally posted by haveblue:
...the SKU and packaging was changed, making it a new product.
I did note that the most recent cabinet was in two smaller boxes instead of having everything in one box like my earlier cabinet(s). It did make it a lot easier to load/unload the box/es and haul up the stairs. |
apollolem
Member Posts: 14
From: Novi, MI USA
Registered: May 2013
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posted 02-18-2014 11:37 PM
Yes, my local Ikea now has a Detolf on the showroom floor finally, although none yet in stock. Website shows 18 arriving there this weekend. Whew! |
apollolem
Member Posts: 14
From: Novi, MI USA
Registered: May 2013
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posted 02-24-2014 11:00 PM
I picked up two Detolfs today, they had a pallet stacked with them. What a relief! |
keymichael1855
Member Posts: 176
From: Virginia Beach, VA, USA
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted 03-17-2014 09:16 PM
After designing a 1:48 scale SLA for a friend of mine, I decided to scale it down, adapt it to fit the 1:72 Dragon kit/prebuilt, and add an equally detailed Instrument Unit. As many of you know, the Dragon SLA/IU is missing a lot of surface detail. Here is how it came out: 
Here's a comparison of mine and the Dragon version. Mine is on the left.  |
keymichael1855
Member Posts: 176
From: Virginia Beach, VA, USA
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted 03-17-2014 09:17 PM
Also, the upper part of the LES tower is missing a lot of surface detail as well on the Dragon. I have a 3D printed part that fits nicely on top and finished off the spacecraft end nicely. Here is a pic and a comparison shot (mine is on the left): 
If you are interested in these parts to upgrade your Dragon kit or prebuilt, here is a link to the parts in my shop on Shapeways: Here is a link to the upper portion of the LES tower.Should you have any comments or questions, please let me know — I'm glad to help. Thanks! |
bdipaolo
Member Posts: 89
From:
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted 03-20-2014 02:21 PM
Michael: Drool, drool! Awesome. |
keymichael1855
Member Posts: 176
From: Virginia Beach, VA, USA
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted 03-24-2014 06:46 AM
Barrett, glad you like the SLA! It really is a nice piece. |
Retro Rocket
Member Posts: 445
From: Santa Paula, Ca,. USA
Registered: Dec 2007
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posted 03-24-2014 03:16 PM
Your models look great! I built about five 1/48 Saturn V models over the years, (one is on display at the Hornet if anyone has been there and taken a picture of it I sure would like a copy.) The master parts were okay at the time but now I'd like to do new ones but I just haven't had the time to put into the CAD models.For the SLA adapter I took the Revell kit parts and molded, cast, molded cast cast to shrink the part to the right size. Those parts are nice because they have the really fine rivets and details. Unfortunately details that small are lost in 3D printing. I was thinking of using Archers 3d rivets to replace them, then mold it. Can you make the SLA into the five separate parts? That way I could add the rivets, any interior parts, hinges, etc. |
keymichael1855
Member Posts: 176
From: Virginia Beach, VA, USA
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted 03-25-2014 03:51 PM
I would be glad to separate the SLA into five pieces for you. Just send me a message and we can take it from there. |
cspg
Member Posts: 6215
From: Geneva, Switzerland
Registered: May 2006
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posted 03-27-2014 10:27 AM
On sale from the Flying Mule for $209.95. |
jutrased
Member Posts: 65
From: North Smithfield, RI USA
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted 04-22-2014 10:32 AM
For anyone who missed out on getting this model, you have another chance to get one at a great price. The Flying Mule has been offering it at $209.95, but until 4/29/2014 you can get 10% off with the code NDSL1Z16. That works out to $188.96. Plus shipping is free. |
Docdrew
Member Posts: 25
From: Scottsdale, AZ
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted 06-20-2014 12:45 AM
The top part of the systems tunnel on the third stage is too long. Has anyone shortened it to the correct length? If so I would appreciate knowing how you did it, e.g. what specifically did you use to cut it, and how did you cut it without damaging the underlying rocket body? Thanks. |
mode1charlie
Member Posts: 1170
From: Honolulu, HI
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted 06-20-2014 04:25 PM
Michael, I somehow missed your earlier post on the SLA/IU and the LES tower. Well done! Will likely be picking up a set of these soon. One question though - do you have a recommended way to separate the LES scaffolding on the original part and mate it with the new 3D printed part? |
AussiePete
Member Posts: 104
From: Adelaide, South Australia
Registered: Jan 2014
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posted 06-20-2014 06:47 PM
If you want to save the original parts I would use a very sharp exacto knife. I'm about to do just that after I give the LES a coat of white. |
keymichael1855
Member Posts: 176
From: Virginia Beach, VA, USA
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted 06-21-2014 10:48 PM
Hey Burke, you can either do as Peter says and use a very sharp exacto knife, or I actually used a Dremmel with a very thin cutting wheel to do the same thing. As long as you are very careful, either method will work. My tower will fit perfectly after trimming off the old, non detailed one from Dragon. Good luck! |
AussiePete
Member Posts: 104
From: Adelaide, South Australia
Registered: Jan 2014
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posted 07-03-2014 07:46 AM
Have purchased Apogee 1/70 F-1 engines TO MOD. Test fit. Apogee turbo pump removed. 
Two engines test fitted along side RealSpace Models batted engines.  Michael Key's LES 3D printed fitted:  |
AussiePete
Member Posts: 104
From: Adelaide, South Australia
Registered: Jan 2014
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posted 07-07-2014 04:32 PM
Hybrid Dragon/Apogee 5 F-1 engines fitted: |
apolloprojeckt
Member Posts: 1448
From: Arnhem, Netherlands
Registered: Feb 2009
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posted 07-07-2014 04:34 PM
Very nice done!!! |
Ronpur
Member Posts: 1213
From: Brandon, Fl
Registered: May 2012
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posted 07-07-2014 09:10 PM
Those look great! Batted engines may be accurate, but I love the detail on the "naked" engines. |
Docdrew
Member Posts: 25
From: Scottsdale, AZ
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted 07-27-2014 05:44 PM
Speaking of "naked" engines, I'm having a difficult time getting the F-1s to attach to the base/heatshield. The knobs seem to be too big to fit into their respective holes. I would appreciate any help/ideas on how to accomplish this without breaking something. Thanks. |
Ironman One
Member Posts: 73
From: Ormond Beach, FL USA
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted 07-29-2014 10:56 PM
I had the same problem and used a dab of lubricant in this case Armorall. Worked just fine. Don't use anything that might "attack" the plastic. Also don't use Vaseline. |
Docdrew
Member Posts: 25
From: Scottsdale, AZ
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted 07-30-2014 10:30 PM
Thanks for the tip. |
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