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ApolloManiacs
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posted 04-22-2004 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ApolloManiacs   Click Here to Email ApolloManiacs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An all-diecast 1:400 Saturn V model comes from Dragon Wings in May 2004.

Jurg Bolli
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posted 04-22-2004 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jurg Bolli   Click Here to Email Jurg Bolli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a few 1:400 airliners from Dragon Wings, they are beautifully done, and the Saturn V will definitely be on my shelf!

DavidH
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posted 04-23-2004 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DavidH   Click Here to Email DavidH     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I note that it says the final product may not be as shown in the picture. I wonder if they plan to ship the Apollo 11 Saturn V, as they indicate, rather than the F500?

divemaster
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posted 04-23-2004 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for divemaster   Click Here to Email divemaster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 500F paint pattern is my biggest pet peeve when it comes to Saturn models. It even slipped by in Apollo 13.

Dave Clow
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posted 04-24-2004 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Clow   Click Here to Email Dave Clow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's the difference among the various paint patterns on the Saturns?

divemaster
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posted 04-24-2004 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for divemaster   Click Here to Email divemaster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 500F had a different roll pattern with the black paint on the first and third stages, which didn't exist on the actual flight vehicles.

The most noted error is the sold black band that ran around the intertank corragations on the first stage. That didn't exist on the flight vehicles [and was painted over white on Apollo 8] due to thermal problems.

You'll also WON'T see a sold black band at the top of the third stage, but four black "hash marks" on the 500F. You can compare photos at the NASA site.

However, it appears that most model makers still paint their box art [and a lot of toys] with the original paint pattern from the test vehicle.

Just a mild obsession, that's all.

Choose2Go
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posted 04-25-2004 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Choose2Go     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just received the Dragon Can-Do Apollo Saturn V set and noticed that the similarity between it and the image in the die-cast Saturn ad. In fact, it appears they used that toy to substitute for the production model for the photo shoot. Since the Can-Do toy suffers from the undersized Apollo spacecraft that plagued the 1/144 Revell Saturn V model (the toy appears to be a scaled down version of the model), I only hope they make the correction on the die-cast version.

Rizz
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posted 04-29-2004 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rizz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone know if this will have a 'smooth body' or are parts of it textured or 'corrigated'?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 06-10-2004 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dragon Models 1/400 scale Saturn V is now out.

You will note that the markings on the rocket have been corrected from early images to match that of the Apollo 11 Saturn V.

Jurg Bolli
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posted 06-10-2004 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jurg Bolli   Click Here to Email Jurg Bolli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has anybody received one of these yet? How does it look? Please report on your impressions.

4tr
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posted 06-12-2004 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 4tr   Click Here to Email 4tr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine just arrived today. It's a nifty little piece, well made and certainly worth the money. If I have any quibbles, it's with the base -- small, plastic, and not as sturdy as I'd like.

GoesTo11
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posted 07-31-2009 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stumbled across this earlier... apparently Dragon Models are re-releasing their 11" die-cast Saturn V-Apollo model in September.

Anyone have the previous edition? Is it a good buy?

Editor's note: Threads merged.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 07-31-2009 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was (one of) the technical consultants for this model (as hinted at earlier in the thread, I suggested they make corrections to the paint/roll pattern before they went into initial production).

Obviously I am biased, but I was pleased with the final product. I'd be curious to hear what other owners thought/think...

Gilbert
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posted 08-04-2009 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gilbert   Click Here to Email Gilbert     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Dragon Saturn V is one of my favorite models. All the Dragon Wings models are of excellent detail and quality, especially for the price. And they don't take up too much shelf space.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 10-13-2009 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GoesTo11:
apparently Dragon Models are re-releasing their 11" die-cast Saturn V-Apollo model in September.
Dragon Wings' Apollo 11 Saturn V Rocket 40th Anniversary Model is now available from The Space Store.

j0s9
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posted 10-13-2009 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for j0s9   Click Here to Email j0s9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now that the new Dragon Wings Saturn V edition is here, which one do you think is a better model? Saturn V made by Dragon Wings or Saturn V made by Danbury Mint?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 10-14-2009 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As the two are of different scales (Dragon 1/400 and Danbury 1/250), it might not be a fair comparison (the Danbury model standing almost twice as tall as the Dragon).

Given its larger size, the Danbury can incorporate fine details (such as the on the blast protective coverage and launch escape system, which on the Dragon has little other than etched support beams on the tower).

That said, for its size and ability to stage, the Dragon offers a nice sized model appropriate for bookshelves and office desks.

cspg
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posted 10-21-2009 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cspg   Click Here to Email cspg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Robert Pearlman:
Obviously I am biased, but I was pleased with the final product. I'd be curious to hear what other owners thought/think...
How many models do you own?

Dragon's 1/400th is the only I got (arrived today) and for its scale I think it's pretty neat (I like small things!). The base on which the model stands maybe could have been made to make the model more stable. Also, anybody had trouble assembling the first two stages? It took some effort.

That being said, I think the price/quality ratio is excellent.

Playalinda
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posted 11-09-2009 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Playalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is this Dragon Apollo 40th anniversary model the one with separable stages? The one I saw is model #56111. Can anybody confirm this? If this model is the non separable stages version what Dragon model number is the separable stages version? Thanks.

Playalinda
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posted 11-09-2009 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Playalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It looks like that I answered my own question. Thanks to the link of poster goesto11. Many thanks. One note. The buyspace link to thespacestore is listing this model 56111 but the model number is not shown. It might be helpful for buyers to have the model # written in the details of the product list. I for one go to another vendor as the price is lower and with free shipping even better.

GoesTo11
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posted 12-04-2009 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoesTo11   Click Here to Email GoesTo11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just received my my model yesterday. It's a very nice piece, especially for the price. To clear up any confusion, the Dragon 40th Anniversary Saturn V-Apollo model is indeed cast in separate stages with engine detail on each stage. (It also includes a command module w/o the escape tower or BPC.) I already had Dragon's Endeavour orbiter with the 747 SCA in the same scale, and both models make a nice desk display that doesn't take up much space. Highly recommended.

Norman.King
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posted 04-19-2014 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Norman.King   Click Here to Email Norman.King     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been trying to find one of these Dragon 1/400 diecast Saturn V models (Apollo 11 or 13) but they appear to be long-gone from the stores.

I've seen a Dragon Can.do 1/400 Saturn V and wonder how this compares to the die-cast model? (Not worried that it's the 500F).

cycleroadie
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posted 04-19-2014 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cycleroadie   Click Here to Email cycleroadie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diecast Airplane Availability: Low Stock!

It is discontinued, so if you find one, you'll be lucky.

tetrox
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posted 04-19-2014 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tetrox   Click Here to Email tetrox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have both (in front of me) and as far as I can see they are the same other than the die cast is significantly heavier and possibly more stable.

Both have the same too slim CSM (in plastic) rather like the old Airfix 1/144 kit before it was modified and both have much too long forward stringers on the second stage.

Norman.King
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posted 04-20-2014 05:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Norman.King   Click Here to Email Norman.King     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the replies. I've emailed Diecast Airplane to ask if they actually have stock (I suspect not) but also bought the Can.do just in case they haven't.

p51
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posted 04-20-2014 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for p51   Click Here to Email p51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Geez, wish I'd known that, I sold mine at a model train show recently at a slight loss as I'm getting rid of any models I don't have out...

Norman.King
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posted 04-21-2014 03:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Norman.King   Click Here to Email Norman.King     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by p51:
Geez, wish I'd known that...
Thanks for the thought
quote:
Originally posted by cycleroadie:
Diecast Airplane
And thank you for that link. They did email me back and said...
Yes, we just recently were able to find a few more of this item so it is in stock.
so I have been able to get one after all.

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