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Robert Pearlman
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posted 02-19-2025 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From spaceflight tracker Jonathan McDowell (via X):
The Falcon 9 second stage from the Starlink 11-4 launch failed to deorbit itself on Feb 2. It reentered over Northern Europe last night, with entry over the Irish Sea at 0343 UTC Feb. 19 and the reentry track extending to Poland and Ukraine a couple of minutes later.

This image claims (and it's very likely correct) to show a pressure vessel from the reentered Falcon 9, fallen near Poznan in Poland.

Headshot
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posted 02-19-2025 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Headshot   Click Here to Email Headshot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
While it has been established that debris such as this remains SpaceX property, can an individual on whose land such debris falls charge SpaceX a storage fee from the time it appears on their property until SpaceX employees retrieve it?

What is SpaceX's track record for retrieving such debris, one day, one week, one month?

Axman
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posted 02-19-2025 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Axman   Click Here to Email Axman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Headshot:
While it has been established that debris such as this remains SpaceX property...
You may say that, but, despite the recent detente between Trump and Putin, if that had landed outside Kaliningrad for example then SpaceX could go whistle.

GACspaceguy
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posted 02-19-2025 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GACspaceguy   Click Here to Email GACspaceguy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If it falls in my yard, it is on display until SpaceX comes and gets it. This reminds me of the Skylab oxygen tank, except graphite epoxy wound and not fiberglass. My, how times have changed.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 02-19-2025 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Axman:
...if that had landed outside Kaliningrad
Russia is still party to the Outer Space Treaty and because it would want its own spacecraft treated the same, would likely cooperate on the return of any U.S. spacecraft debris, regardless of other politics (just as they continue to operate under the partnership agreement for the International Space Station).

It is in Russia's interest (just as with all parties to the treaty) to uphold its conditions.

To the original question; the Outer Space Treaty only holds parties liable for damage or expenses related to retrieving the debris (or intact spacecraft) for return. I do not believe that extends to storage costs, but I am not aware of any past example that would clarify one way or another.

quote:
Originally posted by Headshot:
What is SpaceX's track record for retrieving such debris, one day, one week, one month?
SpaceX has generally not made public its debris retrievals, nor the rate or schedule thereof.

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