Topic: Rocket debris falls in remote village in Kenya
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 53744 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 01-02-2025 03:33 PM
Kenya Space Agency release
Fragments of Space Obiect That Fell and Landed in Mukuku Village, Makueni County on Monday 30 December 2024
The Kenya Space Agency (KS) wishes to address the recent incident involving a metallic object that fell from the skies and landed in Mukuku Village, Mukuku Sublocation, Nduluku Location, Waia Division, Mbooni East Sub-County, Makueni County, on Monday, 30/12/2024, at around 1500hrs [7:00 a.m. EST or 1300 GMT].
The Agency wishes to clarify that the object, a metallic ring measuring approximately 2.5 meters in diameter and weighing about 500 kg, is a fragment of a space object.
Preliminary assessments indicate that the fallen object is a separation ring from a launch vehicle (rocket). Such objects are usually designed to burn up as they re-enter the Earth's atmosphere or to fall over unoccupied areas, such as the oceans. This is an isolated case, which the Agency will investigate and address using the established framework under the International Space law.
On receipt of the information on the morning of Tuesday 31 December 2024, KSA officials rushed to the scene and, working alongside a multi-agency team and local authorities, secured the area and retrieved the debris, which is now under the Agency's custody for further investigation.
The Agency wishes to thank the local residents of Mukuku village for their prompt action in reporting the incident to the authorities and for their cooperation in ensuring public safety. We express our gratitude to the local leadership, the multi-agency team, the Makueni County Government, and media houses for disseminating this critical information in a timely manner.
We want to assure the public that the object poses no immediate threat to safety. Our experts will analyze the object, use existing frameworks to identify the owner, and keep the public informed of the next steps and outcomes.
KSA remains committed to fostering safe and responsible space activities for Kenyan entities operating within Kenya or from outside Kenya. We urge the public to report any suspicious objects or unusual occurrences promptly to the relevant authorities.
Axman Member
Posts: 656 From: Derbyshire UK Registered: Mar 2023
posted 01-03-2025 07:19 AM
Hmm, rocket stage separation ring, or a section of the front intake of an aircraft engine cowling/nacelle?
GACspaceguy Member
Posts: 3140 From: Guyton, GA Registered: Jan 2006
posted 01-03-2025 08:10 AM
Does not look like a typical nacelle part to me. If it was, that aircraft would have made the news as it would be significant structural issue.
ejectr Member
Posts: 2030 From: Killingly, CT Registered: Mar 2002
posted 01-03-2025 09:26 AM
Not much charring on it.
SpaceAholic Member
Posts: 5422 From: Sierra Vista, Arizona Registered: Nov 1999
posted 01-04-2025 07:36 AM
Looks like splines around the circumference.
Axman Member
Posts: 656 From: Derbyshire UK Registered: Mar 2023
posted 01-04-2025 08:02 AM
If it is a rocket stage separation ring then I don't understand where it originated from.
The size precludes sounding rockets.
Kourou and Canaveral are several thousands of miles away, and therefore the damage to the part would have been more apparent.
Which spaceport (either polar orbit, equatorial orbit, or even indeed suborbital) could possibly have launched such a large multi-stage rocket?
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 53744 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 01-05-2025 06:00 PM
Jonathan McDowell has weighed in with his analysis and identified two possible sources for the ring:
Reentry of Ariane 5 Sylda double payload adapter from launcher L541, flight V184(object 33155). Maybe.
Rocket Ariane 5 L541 launched Protostar 1 and Badr 6 on 2008 Jul 7. The upper stage is 5.5m in diameter, so it seems too large. However the upper part of the Sylda adapter has smaller diameter sections. As far as I can see they don't match the reported 2.5m. diameter but I could be wrong there.
Space Force reports reentry occurred on Dec 30, sometime between 2038 and 2238 UTC, well after the Kenya report.
However there were no orbit data reported after Dec 23. The orbit on that data was elliptical, around 146 x 1923 km. Such orbits have significant uncertainty near reentry This means we can't really be confident about when and where it reentered, especially if Space Force's estimate is really just an extrapolation of data from a week previously.
The orbit was equatorial and it did pass over Nairobi at 1118 UTC. Makueni County seems to be a bit south of the southernmost extent of the object's orbit but the reports on the location are not really precise - a good latitude and longitude would be nice.
Reentry of US rocket stage Centaur AC-167 (28385). Maybe.
AC-167 was launched on 2004 Aug 31 by Atlas IIAS from Canaveral, carrying a secret NRO satellite.
Reentry was reported by Space Force to have happened at 2130 UTC on Dec 30, over 108E 55N, inconsistent in both time and space with the Kenya report. Space Force continued issuing new orbital data at around 1500 UTC, three hours after the Kenya event.
But perhaps the Space Force data is incorrect, or a piece came off a bit earlier. In fact, object 28385 passed directly over Makueni County at 0711 UTC (10:11 am Kenya time), about 5 hours before the reported event.
The Centaur stage is 3.1 metres in diameter. But the forward adapter has a conical section and maybe it has a smaller diameter ring like this.
Ted Peterson Member
Posts: 13 From: Registered: Jun 2024
posted 01-05-2025 08:45 PM
This kind of thing is bound to occur more often going forward. To the layman it appears rightly or wrongly that space exploration is concerned with getting payloads into orbit, though not very concerned about what happens after orbit decays.
Is there a solid agreement internationally with regard to responsibility and potential liability for space junk?
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 53744 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 01-05-2025 09:42 PM
The Outer Space Treaty of 1967 holds party nations libel for damage or casualties caused by their spacecraft, regardless if the vehicle is intact, in pieces, in space, on Earth or on another celestial body.
The Artemis Accords also require member nations to take responsibility over tracking their hardware and "plan for the mitigation of orbital debris, including the safe, timely, and efficient passivation and disposal of spacecraft at the end of their missions."
In addition, there are a number of government and commercial efforts (including in-space tests) that are underway now to capture and safely deorbit spent hardware.
Ted Peterson Member
Posts: 13 From: Registered: Jun 2024
posted 01-07-2025 09:55 PM
Thanks! To date, I wonder have any of those agreements ever really been tested? I’ve heard rumbles as well that some nations are a bit ... less than scrupulous about adhering to these rules or agreements. What would be the venue for disputes? UN? Are all the major spacefaring nations signatories to the '67 Treaty?
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Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 53744 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 01-07-2025 10:13 PM
The Outer Space Treaty is overseen by the United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs.
The Shire of Esperance in Western Australia issued NASA a $400 bill for littering after Skylab dropped pieces over the outback. The fee was a joke though a California radio station raised the $400 from its listeners and paid it 40 years later.
Axman Member
Posts: 656 From: Derbyshire UK Registered: Mar 2023
posted 01-08-2025 04:18 AM
A precursor to the treaty has been seen at work in the case of the death of Ruhina the cow when an American Thor-Ablestar disintegrated over Cuba. The US paid out $2 million in compensation.
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 53744 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 01-10-2025 10:32 AM
The question if the ring is actual space debris continues.
...prominent space tracker Marco Langbroek concluded that the most likely source for the object was an Ariane V launch that took place back in July 2008, in which the European rocket lofted two satellites into geosynchronous transfer orbit.
The Ariane V rocket was a rather unique rocket in that it was designed with the capacity to launch two medium-sized satellites into geostationary transfer orbit, a destination much more popular in the late 1990s and early 2000s than it is today. To accommodate both satellites, a SYstème de Lancement Double Ariane, or SYLDA, shell was placed over the lower satellite to support the mounting of a second satellite on top of it. During the launch in 2008, this SYLDA shell was ejected into a 1.6-degree inclined geosynchronous transfer orbit, Langbroek said.
However, an anonymous Twitter account using the handle DutchSpace, which despite the anonymity has provided reliable information about Ariane launch vehicles in the past, posted a thread that indicates this ring could not have been part of the SYLDA shell. With images and documentation, it seems clear that neither the diameter nor mass of the SYLDA component matches the ring found in Kenya.
Additionally, Arianespace officials told Le Parisien newspaper on Thursday that they do not believe the space debris was associated with the Ariane V rocket.
Axman Member
Posts: 656 From: Derbyshire UK Registered: Mar 2023
posted 01-10-2025 12:40 PM
I am convinced the piece is not space debris. I cannot state categorically what it is, but I am leaning toward my original suspicion of an aircraft engine part.
The closest I can match it to is the forward inner component of a Pratt & Whitney GTF engine nacelle. This engine is used by Kenya Airways on their old second-hand Embraer E190s.
The forward component of an engine cowling or nacelle can, and do, become detached without causing catastrophic engine failure.
Ted Peterson Member
Posts: 13 From: Registered: Jun 2024
posted 01-11-2025 01:38 AM
quote:Originally posted by Axman: The US paid out $2 million in compensation.
That must have been some cow!
GACspaceguy Member
Posts: 3140 From: Guyton, GA Registered: Jan 2006
posted 01-11-2025 06:58 AM
Alan, what part of an inlet cowl would you think it is? With it being a machine fitting would it be an attach ring? The scalloped areas appear to be the recess for bolts (however hard to tell if there are any twelve-point SPS type bolts are still there). Saying that, I feel there are way too many attach fasteners for that type of attach ring, just from a maintenance issue.
I agree that loss of an engine nacelle does not have to be catastrophic on a wing mounted engine, more so on aft fuselage mounted engine as departure could take out the h stab and pitch control. I would think a nacelle loss in flight would result in a passenger photo and media coverage.
Just my opinion, not gospel.
Axman Member
Posts: 656 From: Derbyshire UK Registered: Mar 2023
posted 01-11-2025 08:25 AM
I'm thinking it is the very front part of the P&W engine. There are aerodynamic coverings over it which is what the public sees, but I'm thinking this is the structural engineering part beneath the smooth outer casing.
I too am troubled by the amount of scalloped slots on the ring. The only engineering drawing I've seen is only a cross-section and therefore gives a very similar profile, but obviously does not indicate how many slots there are.
And also one would expect if an engine fell apart, no matter how innocuously, there would be some press coverage - but then again, I was on a British Airways flight from Charles deGaulle to Osaka which had a stopover in Alaska in December 1980, and we had to transfer airplanes because the weight of ice on the engine caused the underneath to fall off. There was no press coverage about that either, I know because I was surprised to find no mention at the time.
And, in certain parts of the world, Africa and Central Asia in particular, modes of transport falling apart is no big deal with little to zero social media hype.
Robert Pearlman Editor
Posts: 53744 From: Houston, TX Registered: Nov 1999
posted 01-11-2025 08:37 AM
This image of the debris shows appears to be thermal damage that could be consistent with reentry heating:
There is also mention (but no photos as of yet) of other debris having been found in the vicinity of the ring, including "material that looks like carbon wrap and isolation foil" that wouldn't be out of place on a launch vehicle or spacecraft.
Axman Member
Posts: 656 From: Derbyshire UK Registered: Mar 2023
posted 01-11-2025 08:45 AM
I agree it could be from a re-entry part of a spacecraft/rocket. Equally it could be from an aircraft.
The charring/heat damage looks minimal and not really consistent with re-entry from orbit.
Scattered damage over many miles is also possible for an aircraft engine suffering structural degradation.
Carbon fibres and advanced foils can be found in both spacecraft and aircraft.
My particular beef is with the size of the thing. It is far too large for a sounding rocket, and far too small for an orbital rocket component.