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Robert Pearlman
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posted 04-02-2021 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On March 25, 2021, the second stage of a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket broke apart as it fell back into the atmosphere over the Pacific Northwest. Launched on March 4 on a mission to deploy Starlink satellites, the stage failed to perform a deorbit burn, leading to the uncontrolled reentry 22 days later.

Today (April 2), the Grant County Sheriff's Office reported that debris from the stage was found and returned to SpaceX.

SpaceX recovered a Composite-Overwrapped Pressure Vessel from last week's Falcon 9 re-entry. It was found on private property in southwest Grant County this week. Media and treasure hunters: we are not disclosing specifics. The property owner simply wants to be left alone.

The impact left a 4-inch dent in the soil, reports The Verge.

A Grant County, Washington property owner, who told authorities he didn't want to be identified, found the errant COPV — roughly the size and shape of a hefty punching bag — sitting on his farm one morning last weekend. He reported it to the Grant County Sheriff's Office, GCSO spokesman Kyle Foreman said in a phone call. A sergeant was dispatched on Monday to check it out.

"Neither the property owner nor our sergeant are rocket scientists, of course, but judging from what had happened a few days prior, it looked to them like it was possibly debris from the Falcon 9 reentry," Foreman said. So the sergeant called SpaceX, which confirmed to GCSO it appeared to be their's and dispatched employees to retrieve the COPV on Tuesday. SpaceX didn't respond to a request for comment.

Mike Dixon
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posted 04-02-2021 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Dixon   Click Here to Email Mike Dixon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Curious about this ... who has rights to that debris?

Robert Pearlman
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posted 04-02-2021 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Outer Space Treaty of 1967 establishes that rocket parts remain the property of their owners until specifically relinquished by them, regardless of where the debris may land. Thus, the COPV is SpaceX's property until they declare they no longer want it.

Article VIII of the treaty:

A State Party to the Treaty on whose registry an object launched into outer space is carried shall retain jurisdiction and control over such object, and over any personnel thereof, while in outer space or on a celestial body.

Ownership of objects launched into outer space, including objects landed or constructed on a celestial body, and of their component parts, is not affected by their presence in outer space or on a celestial body or by their return to the Earth. Such objects or component parts found beyond the limits of the State Party to the Treaty on whose registry they are carried shall be returned to that State Party, which shall, upon request, furnish identifying data prior to their return.

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posted 04-02-2021 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Dixon   Click Here to Email Mike Dixon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Robert. Knew it applied to NASA, but not to these ops.

Robert Pearlman
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posted 04-02-2021 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robert Pearlman   Click Here to Email Robert Pearlman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The "state party" in this sense is the United States. NASA, SpaceX, ULA, etc., are all U.S. licensed operators. Article VI:
States Parties to the Treaty shall bear international responsibility for national activities in outer space, including the moon and other celestial bodies, whether such activities are carried on by governmental agencies or by non-governmental entities, and for assuring that national activities are carried out in conformity with the provisions set forth in the present Treaty.

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posted 04-03-2021 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Headshot   Click Here to Email Headshot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Out of curiosity and hypothetically, had that piece of second stage debris damaged the landowner's home or car, would SpaceX be liable for the damages?

Robert Pearlman
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Yes, due to U.S. law. Had the pieces fallen in another country, SpaceX would still be responsible, due to Article VII of the Outer Space Treaty:
Each State Party to the Treaty that launches or procures the launching of an object into outer space, including the moon and other celestial bodies, and each State Party from whose territory or facility an object is launched, is internationally liable for damage to another State Party to the Treaty or to its natural or juridical persons by such object or its component parts on the Earth, in air or in outer space, including the moon and other celestial bodies.

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Meteorite hunter Robert Ward found two more of the COPV tanks and, at least as of the time this Seattle Times article went to print, is still in possession of them.
Within a day, driving around in remote locations, with binoculars “and a really good eye,” he found two more. One had fallen in sage brush where the desert met some irrigated fields. Another was across the river inside the Army’s Yakima training range, where he got permission to roam in an area open to the public.

The tanks come wrapped in carbon fiber composite that partly shredded during the violent reentry. “It’s a very nasty material,” said Ward. “It’s basically like fiberglass times 20. It gets in your fingers and it’s like ants biting you.”

Wearing protective gloves and mask, he manhandled both tanks onto his rented pickup.

Later, Ward changed the drop-off location for his rental truck and drove the tanks all the way back to Prescott, where he cleaned them and wrapped them in tarps for storage.

He’s unsure what he’ll do with them. Hankey sent a Facebook message to an acquaintance at SpaceX, but so far without response.

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